I've read several different reports that say the creatures vary in height. Consistent numbers are usually around 7' tall, although I've read the occasional 9-10 ft reports. Of course there are weight estimate variances as well, which go anywhere from 500-1200 pounds.

The other thing that makes me wonder if there might be more than one species of BF revolves around the creatures reported colors, which have been anywhere from Brown, Red, White, and Grey.

Thought on such a possibility?

Try reading the book: The Field Guide to Bigfoot, Yeti, and Other Mystery Primates Worldwide (1999 Avon Books) by Loren Coleman & Patrick Huyghe. They put forth the ideas that there are actually several different species of unidentified hominoid walking through the forests of this planet. I can see the possibility of maybe one or two species of hominoid, but the number they propose is unbelievable.

I've thought all along there must be different species but when I spoke to a known bigfoot researcher - his thought was that there was enough to consider regarding bigfoot and we didn't need to add that factor in. I guess I don't see the problem of it being considered. I personally don't see it any differently then humans being of different races and sizes. Why not the big guy? The only problem I see in considering it is if there would be those individuals who will then not be satisfied with killing only one to prove it exists.

Similar things discussed here:

http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?showtopic=11688

This subject has been talked about a few different times on these forums.

I personally believe that Bigfoot sightings comes in two different species. But them two species can have many different looks to them.

For example, Here in the US I believe we have descendent's of Gigantopithecus on some sort or other. In that group I think that some have evolved to look a little different from east to west coast as well as different heights and a few other differences.

Now the other group would be over in Europe. I believe they are the descendent's of Neanderthals. A lot of the reports from over there seem to sound a lot more like that sort of thing then a classic "Bigfoot" type of animal. But then as you get into the more western side of things like in Russia and such and in the Himalayas they go back to the Bigfoot type of animals.

I was about to say that, whatever you do, please DON'T read that book. That would give you the wrong idea.

That book literally has page after page of supposed different types of hairy hominoids walking the planet. There is about THIRTY or so named in that book.

Speciation.

I'm pretty sure there are at least two diffrent species. The Northwestern typical bigfoot and then the Southern three toed BF. Then again they could be the same species and the three toes could be a result of inbreeding and genetic isolation. Who knows? I'll be happy just to see one of any species!

IMHO (& this is my speculation) there are at least two types in North America. As others in this thread have theorized, the Northern/Western (Sasquatch/Bigfoot)types and the South Eastern (three-toed/swamp dwellers) types.

I also believe that ranges overlap in some areas. Do they/are able to interbreed? I have no clue. The differences in hair color could be species specific, but I believe that it is more individual characteristics. The differences in height I believe to be age and gender related.

This is why the discovery of a body (or lots of detailed habituation film) may not end the mystery. If lots of witnesses say, "That's not like what I saw," and if there is some coherence to their accounts of what they DID see, then there'd still be a mysterious critter (or two or three) out there undiscovered.

I would think there'd have to be at least two. The "Patty" type, and then a longer-haired more slender type that has been reported frequently as well. I'd have to do some heavy reading, but perhaps the long-haired slender ones are the ones that leave the three toed tracks? (For that matter how often do three toed tracks show up, over how big an area, etc? I've only heard and read about them in very isolated cases which makes me personally wonder about their authenticity.)

KW

50,000 years ago, there were 4 types of humans (that we know of):

Neanderthal, H Erectus, H Sapien, H Flores.


Who knows how many there are today.

3 toed is rare........ if it's true at all.....!





Belle

From what I have seen and heard there would have to be at least 2 species in the U.S. Seem the ones out west are bigger, broader, and beefier since it is a bit more rugged around the Rockies. I've seen evidence to suggest ones out here in the East are a bit more undersized (if you call round abouts of 7 feet undersized) and they aren't quite as brawny since the geology doesn't really call for it as much.

Come to think of it that paves the way for a totally different 3 rd species in the swampy south ( the three toed variety) so I will go out on a limb and propose that there are probably no less than 3 distinct varieties of the hairy hominid here in the U.S.

D

Welcome to the forum, ddh.




I'm just curious... What types of evidence you have seen to make you think this?

Thanks,

ML

Mostly information gathered from sighting reports but I have seen some alleged photos of eastern hominids. The areas of these photos were not nearly as dense as what you see in the Northwest. I have some sources in OH that have had alleged encounters as well.

As for the southern 3 toed....just really basing that on track finds alone but if they are legit it would stand to reason it would possibly be another species.

I'm heading to OH next week to meet up with one of my sources and this person is taking me to a 'hot spot'. It is my intent to gather evidence first hand and hopefully gather enough to come to some kind of conclusion about this particular area.

Certainly don't mean to come across like I know something more than anyone else on this board but as long as we are being theoretical/hypothetical about it...figured I'd throw it out there...LOL!!!

D

Well, pretty much all anyone interested in this subject can do right now is theorize and hypothesize.. nothing wrong with that.

Best of luck to you in OH!

Lately I've also give some thought to more than one spieces.
Some of the reasons are
- 1 - why do some sightings have the creatures eyes
reflecting red in the head lights , others yellow, and some even green?
-2- some have flatish faces, others a snout ( Beast of Bray Road)
-3- Some seen only at night, Others during daylight
-4- Then the three toed, and the five toed
-5- Size small Florida skunk ape, right up to west coast 8'-10'
-6- Say also regional Russian, Asian, Austrailian, North American,
and who knows what others.

If the scientific community ever admits they exist,

BOY DO THEY HAVE THEIR WORK CUT OUT FOR THEM
I read that a person in a government Org in Ontario Canada hopes they don't find one
as they don't have the budget to study them.
superd