If you could pick any area in Northamerica and do an expedition there. what location would you pick?

Skamania county still stands out as the county with most reports per inhabitant and squaremile.

There may be other areas with better terrain, better weather, more open fields and less bugs though.

I have given a few thoughts about China and russia. there may be a much more significant population there, if they came from these countries.

Maybe the North american population of BF is nothing compared to the asian population.

Skamania County is rich in sightings, IMHO , though i also would check out the western slopes of the Olympic Mtns The Wynoochee valley , the Wishkah,Humptullips,& Hoh Rivers .clearcuts and slash burnt areas possibly best. heard of alot of vocalizations going on recently.....goodluck..

Could I assume all these counties are in Washington state?

Good afternoon fellow researchers. I believe the Northern part of California has the most reports of Bigfoot sightings and footprint finds an all of North America over the years. The Patterson film was shot there in 1967. That would be the best your best bet to find a Sasquatch in my opinion.

Large areas of uninterupted forest, mixed with fields/clearcuts and bisected by numerous streams or other bodies of water, in relatively close proximity to rural farms or communities. That's your best bet.

Don't be too suprised though..if the final evidence comes from some place completely unexpected...

How did you know what's in my basement? And where the hell is my tape?!

That tape might be evidence!

Dude if this was a race you'd be losing to the kid with the helmet by now.

Maybe! More people means more reports though and that may be case with California.

I have heard that the Bluff Creek area isn´t very good these days. Fewer reports, bad terrain etc.

Drove through part of Skamania Co. on Hwy 14 along the Gorge last weekend. But I'm sure all the activity is farther away from the river.

I've heard people say that Ross Lake in Northern Washington is a good site. Sure is pretty desolate up there.

But my guess is a that if you wander off the beaten path anywhere in the PNW you're going to be in Bigfoot Country®

Is the tape next to your garlic by chance?

Well, if we're just talking density of reports then the area between Mt. Raineer and Mt. St. Helens would be your best bet. Most of it is parkland of some sort. Interestingly while this is the center of the densest reports there are actually few reports from inside the calculated "center". One guess would be that this is because people frequent the edges of the wilderness more than the center. The other reason could be that the big guy actaully prefers the lower elevations and doesn't frequent the high country. Guess we'll have to ask him.



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Are the blue or yellow triangels class A sightings?

Is it BFRO reported sightings only?

Any chance that an expedition could be executed in the area?

Yeah, the yellow were class A type reports and the blue are class B's.

Sam Houston National Forest in Texas has been a hot bed of sightings recently. I'm sure our TBRC members can vouch for that. I haven't started doing any field work yet but that's probably as good a place to get my feet wet as any. I'm hoping to take the clan out for a camping trip there this spring.

Belemnoid: Could you please mark the sightings on the map that are less then 5 years old.

i have also been looking for an area that would be good for hunting bigfoot or atleast hear some calls

Any specific region you're interested in? Don't want to do the whole country if you're only interested in Ohio or Washington.

That's where I maybe going this Spring. If not then Summer when All the dang blasted
snakes are out. Right along with the BIG BUGS that are down here. :willies:

Belle

I guess since it's where I go.....

the Bluff Creek area of Northern California...

I would go there myself..but that's alittle to far for me. One day I may go there. I hope!!

Let´s go for Skamania and surrounding counties!

If there´s an area with more class A reports/inhabitant and squaremile during the past 5 years then that one would be more interesting.

socal, the area he is talking about would mostly be the area of Grays Harbor county out on the coast....those areas carry over in to others, but that would probably be the most centralized reference point for you to look at...

For my two pennies worth gotta support the local area and go with good old home...Skamania County

so cal dave this is huntington beach mucoso.......remember ' TOURIST GO HOME ' BOLSA CHICA water tower . YEA .seal team 1 greg knowles duke kwianamoko and Corky Carrol ...........hang ten mofo............

Adamsclimber: Have you been out squatching a lot? check with landowners and other people about recent activities. I think it´s time for an BFRO expedition to your backyard.

magikern, not nearly as much as I'd like to have...the first year or so after we had moved down here got to spend a bit of time poking around, then work took off and I really haven't had the time to do much more than an occasional day-trip to check out a couple of places....same age old story (at least in my case ) time available= no money, money available=no time

Hopefully work is gonna slow down here relatively soon and I'll be able to get out and about quite a bit more..*fingers crossed*

Adamsclimber:I would propably be out Squatching every week If I lived in Skamania County.

The Northwestern part is rumoured to be the best.

I think it´s time for BFRO to arrange an expedition in this area.

Where is Eagle Cliff located by the way is it near where you live?

magikern, you betcha I'd love to be home most weekends or days that matter to go stomp around a bit...this year especially with the mild winter we're having, you have access to areas that generally wouldn't be open until May-June without a snow machine and since a lot of those areas are designated as winter rec areas...you can't take a motor vehicle on them unless its a snow machine....no snow, no snow machines But a bike would be great!! Something I'm hoping to play with once things settle around the hacienda a bit...

Eagle Cliff is North of us, as is most of Skamania County....most of the population is within roughly 10-15 miles of the Columbia, which leaves a lot of country up there relatively unpopulated...just a guestimate Eagle Cliff store is roughly 30-40 miles up from here near Swift Resevior area, never really paid that close of attention to the mileage and haven't stopped by in a long while...another spring/summer project when I get the chance

Adamsclimber: I would propably move up to a small house in the northwest of Skamania County if I were you.

Have you checked with any landowners or other people who spend a lot of time up there if they have any recent stories to tell?

I live right on the border of Lewis and Thurston counties, which (using BFRO) have a total of 29 sightings. Not quite up to Skamania, but not bad either.

ZogtheFuzzy: Have you been out Squatching a lot? Have you asked people about areas with recent activities. People in your area are propably not laughing when you ask since there are so many reports, or?

Speaking of Skamania County, I hope someday to get out there to do some squatching. I was just looking at my atlas, at Washington State. Indian Heaven Wilderness is there in Skamania County. Have any of you been there? BFRO now lists 47 reports for Skamania Co. That is more than any other location and more than most states.

Sorry about the delay - finally shook the flu and have been catching up on yardwork.

Here's the hotspot area showing only reports from 2000+. Not much different from the one showing 1990s+. Class A in red Class B in yellow.



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Belemnoid: Great work with the map. I think it´s time for an expedition in the Northwestern Skamania and Lewis County area. Anyone know any major landowners there?

magikern...not to be a smart-ass, but here, most of the "major land owners" up north equal the federal gov......the majority of the county falls under some sort of control. That would be the Gifford Pinchot Nat'l Forest and The National Scenic Act, which killed a lot of the "traditional" economy here, but it is re-structuring and slowly gaining ground back...just a tough place to make a living, 80% of the population works outside the local area.

Would love to find a place a bit a bit further North and working on it slowly, but gotta stay close enough to a place where we can get to jobs, ie $$.

We live fairly close to the best road in the area SR14, and the road crews can't gaurantee that that will be open when a storm hits...and even if its open, quite often it MAY not be worth the risk...there's probably others here that can attest to the fun of our lil freezing-rain squalls and the section of 14 known as Cape Horn.

Just to throw in another tid-bit, if you look at a map of Skamania, you can see all that land...there's a total population of roughly 10,000 in that area and if I remember correctly 85-90% of that population lives down South here along the River...lots of open country.


belemnoid....Outstanding work...gonna work on scouring this closer and hopefully make some use of it soon!!

Here in Sweden we have something called "allemansratten" and that means that you are allowed to camp one night in anyones forest during one night if you replace everything as it was before you came. You can camp on another location on the same person´s land the next night if you clean up as well.

It could be federal land or private it doesn´t matter.

How are the camping possibilties on federal land in the State of Washington?

anyone know of a site that hosts pdf and not just jpeg, etc? A pdf of the map retains much more info than a jpeg.

magikern....camping up in the Northern areas really isn't a probelm at all, there are lots of areas available...in fact that is one of the primary functions of the various legislations that have taken place. Basically the idea, is to leave the various areas in their natural states and to provide recreation for folks.

There are a few areas a person could set up residence, most are on the periphery however. Not much available in the inner portions, and a lot of what is available is not accessible year-round.....I like to think of that as a bonus personally, but haven't sold the idea to the missus yet

Adamsclimber: Please give more info

Well, as far a Skamania County proper, if you look at a map and follow the path of the Columbia River, that will cover 85-90% of the population base here... On the North side of things is where it gets dicey as far as what is what...Toutle, Cougar, Randle, Packwood and other towns are in other Counties, but share the National Forest as well

The only place that I can think of that kinda enters the picture as being "settled or improved " that somebody could buy a chunk of property in "sort of " the middle of things would be around Swift Resevoir, and only a portion of that is in Skamania IIRC.

Swift is a place that traditionally has been for summer cabins and such, but has relatively recently seen a very few folks taking up year round residence, but it can be a very interesting place to get in and out of during the winter...if at all. I may be wrong on this, but that is my understanding of things up there. From here, at least that area can be pretty inaccessable from approx. Nov to roughly May-June. None or maybe one of the roads are maintained from our end here. Not sure if Lewis County (?) is doing things different from their end...Zog my be able to provide better info on that...

Accessibilty, depends mostly on your creativity, and various budgets for plowing the roads to certain areas for winter recreation....ie, snow machines, X-country and tele-mark, and for us graceless folks, slogging in on snowshoes

Hope that helps a bit...

Find info here on camping in the Gifford Pinchot National Forest, which includes Indian Heavens Wilderness, as well as Skookum Meadow. The Gifford Pinchot includes much of the area from the Columbia River north to Mt. Rainier National Park.

Very interesting! It´s time for an expedition in this area without any doubt.

Adamsclimber:Are you taken seriously if you ask some random person in your area if they now about recent BF activity? In most other other places they will just laugh at you.

Here's a map from the GPNF website of the Indian Heaven Wilderness.

Tug, thanks for posting that info up, was hoping to do the same, but you know how horrible I am with these blasted computers..





magikern, its pretty much the same as everywhere. Most folks will kind of roll their eyes and chuckle. Sometimes though you can see a little unease about that chuckle.
Occasionally, someone will drop a bit of info but not very much.

Sometimes though, if you spend the time over a pint or two and get a bit of a repoire going someone will mention they know/knew "somebody one time that..."

Things here can tend to be clannish, you have a lot of folks and their families that have been here for a very long time and you have a good number of folks that have only been here a few years...such as myself. And often there can be friction between the two sides. So sometimes it can be difficult to get the long-time folks to share, as they often perceive that folks are asking this stuff to poke fun at them.

I generally have managed to have a good relationship with a few of these folks, which I chalk up to growing up in a similar area as a kid. By no means trusted fully, it'll probably take another 30 years for that But they don't get up and move anymore when I walk in the door

Thanks for the maps Tugboat.

IMHO , Any where deep into the Cascades .From Burney falls 'BIGFOOT DAYS' Mt Shasta MT Hood ,St Helens through to Mt baker and ,north into Canada .The coastal mtns ,From Bluff creek into Oregon ,washington {oly mtns } and ofcourse The vast Vancouver Island .

Is there any doubt? BC Canada is the best place to view Sasq!

Some of British Columbia's top Sasquatch/Bigfoot researchers wholeheartedly believe that the Harrison Lake country holds great promise for an important discovery in the near future.

I believe that BC and SE Alaska hold the greatest promise of a sasquatch sighting.

But in BC I'm not in control. Ottawa is. I'm an American.

I'll have to stick with SE Alaska.

The problem is that even though I'm an Alaskan, the place is just as difficult to get to for me as for a Floridian.

The good part is that the Floridians are chasing Skunks.