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VeinsAfire
Hello all it seems like things are going well for my research as I have not even had to leave my property to start. On the 16th the dogs and horses were all acting very strange and I heard a strange vocalization that was not a horse, dog or coyote. I rushed outside only to hear the thundering of horse hooves and the dogs acting very strange, at that point I didnt think much of it, the vocalization sounded like a 3 second scream and the dogs act strange if there is a loose cow on the property so I went about my business occasionally thinking if a BF had wondered from the mountains over the foothills and into the groves. The next evening I walked out to the shed to see if we still had a small barbaque and when I was walking back to the house I noticed a 14" footprint in the garden, I was in denial for several minutes and went to get my fiance to get a second opinion, We really focused on the print. It was 2 maybe 2 1/2" deep in adobe and 14 inches long, 5 inches at the ball and 4 inches at the heal. She suggested we take a couple photos of it and I took her up on the idea. we took the measurements and took 2 photos without scaling and one with my fiance's foot next to the track. (they will be posted when the film is developed) It didnt end there, Today I walked outside to have a smoke and I noticed a box of lanterns had been knocked down and there was glass all over the front porch, I thought this was strange as the dogs have never shown any interest in any of the boxes on the porch. We then saw our dog had the right side of a fresh cow hoof and was chewing away which may or may not be related to this. We did walk the groves and see if we could find a deceased cow on the property but the dogs quickly found the trail and wandered across the street into a large overgrown orange grove and I have never seen my Aussie act this excited over a smell, they have chased cows off the property and are used to coyotes, horses but he was going nutts. We did not find the cow but I have a feeling it is in the grove actross the street. The part that makes me think that this is related is the track seems that it walked from that grove through ours and into our garden. Another thing about the track that is strange is that the creature stepped once in the garden and it seems to of changed its mind, possibly didnt want to leave more tracks. There were no more tracks since the ground was pretty solid throughout the groves. If i think of anything else valuable to this I will add it when the pictures are uploaded.
billgreen2005bigfoot
hi researcher thats very interesting sasquatch activity on your property. please keep us posted. thanks bill green
Maheekat
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Of course get the old tape recorder ready and so on and so on.......
RB
Sounds promising! cool.gif

Please let me know if you want any help investigating it...
ouachita
So if I am reading you correctly you took the photos on Feb 17 (yesterday). Is that correct? Who is doing the developing? When will they be developed and ready to upload? Could you tell us about the camera and film - brand, film asa #, etc.?

Am I correct in understanding there is only one footprint and it was found in your garden? How big is the garden and what leads you to believe the creature acted in a way to deliberately not leave anymore tracks?

More questions to follow but that will do for now. Thanks!
VeinsAfire
The camera is a disposable Quicksnap 35mm, correct the pictures were taken yesterday, the 17th. The film will be developed at a local Longs Drugs, unfortunatly my fiance is going to use up the remaining 6 photos before development which I assume and will push being done on monday, directly after we return I will upload them here. I couldnt wait to make the post, I was going to wait until the film was developed but got a but excited. The reason I feel the creature acted in such a manner is the fact that it did not go all the way across the garden which is 6 yards long and 3 yards wide.

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billgreen2005bigfoot
hi veins good evening im realy looking forward on seeing your photos of sasquatch. please keep us posted etc thanks bill green ct sasquatch researcher. smile.gif
VeinsAfire
Well bill it is a few photos of a footprint at the moment, maybe it will be more someday, glad to see you all are interested, I know I am.
billgreen2005bigfoot
veins ok keep in touch. has there been other sightings in your state. bill
Huntster
Are you up in the foothills of the Sierras?
uffda320
Looking forward to the pictures. smile.gif Did you notice any dermals in the track? By comparison, how far do you sink in the same adobe? Were there any other tracks near the big track you found in your garden?
liebling
wow, thats cool. i cant wait to see how this turns out

gael
billgreen2005bigfoot
hi everyone did anyone here have any sasquatch experances or found evidence etc today. thanks bill green smile.gif
socaldave
Did you make a cast of the track?
VeinsAfire
I did not sink even half an inch in the soil the day I found it (even if i stomp). The rains have come so now im sure I could, yeah I am in the foothills, the far end of Terra Bella off 264. No cast I havent bought the plaster since I wasnt planning on starting my research until spring. No dermal signs but I can see what seem to be nail marks and I can make out the toes. Tomorrow is the day, I will have the pictures ready to show you all and I will do some highlighted areas to show you what I see though the photos should be clear enough to make it out.
Maheekat
Thank you for following through... popcorn2.gif
justin
Sounds very interesting!!!!

Keep a camera and tape recorder ready for 2night and in the morning just incase u see or hear anything...
PinelandsResearcher
Keep working! new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif Good Luck!
VeinsAfire
Photo 1
VeinsAfire
Photo 2
billgreen2005bigfoot
hi veins good evening those photos of possible sasquatch footprint you just posted here look pretty authentic. i hope you continue find more evidence in area. thanks bill green
Maheekat
Veins, is it possible to post a higher resolution pic? those claws-toenails are getting my attention...
VeinsAfire
Just to add, my fiance's mucking boots measured 10" from heal to toe, Thank you billgreen, I will keep everyone posted and am frequently checking the replies.
VeinsAfire
Here is a higher res version.
Maheekat
What do you make of the sharpness of claws....they look bear like.
VeinsAfire
Ive seen bear tracks and this looks nothing like a bear, I do agree, the nail marks look similar.
Josh Willard
That is one Big Foot!

JVD! ohmy.gif
Maheekat
Maybe the toenail impressed at an angle...
VeinsAfire
Bear Prints
Bear Prints 2
billgreen2005bigfoot
hi veins the footprint in those photos is definetly not of a bear. but a possible sasquatch. the footprint is very interesting. bill green
HarryHenderson
There's something I've wondered about before and that 'footprint' seems to point it out (regardless of if it's a Bigfoot print). Agreed that most 'prints' and 'casts' seem to show Bigfoot as mostly 'flat footed' and ALSO in the sense that the prints are usually 'laid flat' with no 'arching/arcing' of the center of the foot thru the 'step' regardless of the softness of the ground.

This particular print (thread topic) seems to show an arching/arcing 'heel first - rock foot forward - push off' impression. A seemingly 'motion' type of print. Of course the 'soft ground' made that more 'obvious' than might otherwise show up on harder ground, but there's been any number of prints in 'soft ground' that didn't have that 'arched/arced' impression like this one NOR substantial 'toe area' ground disturbance.

Often it seems to me there's no 'obvious indication' that whatever made a print was in a state of 'locomotion'. Almost as if whatever made them came from directly above then went straight back up. Meaning...and this is MY OPINION...the physics of motion etc. that govern the movements of a 700-800 pound two legged 'Bigfoot' would seemingly produce more 'ground disturbance' than many of the prints that have been shown indicate. And I am NOT meaning that none, any or all are fakes...just that some almost seem 'too perfect'.

Is there some correlation as to the ability of the ground to 'accept' a print yet not 'obviously' show the dynamics of what made it? Meaning, is ground that will 'make' a nice print exclusionary of further detail by the very fact it's easily 'printable'? Seems to me that 'soft moist ground' would 'require' more 'internal foot motion/action' (and thus disturbance) due to the slippery/soft nature of the ground.

For that matter (and this comes from left field new_whistle.gif)...does the apparent 'bent knee' stride 'Patty' has (and presumably all other 'Bigfoots') make the foot less needful of the toes to do work such as 'pushing off'...?

As to the physics of an 800 pound, 2 legged creature, my knowledge of which is very limited, there just seems to be more 'needing' to occur within the footprints showing the 'motion factor' of such a big animal - than often seemingly does.

Which reminds me of another question. dry.gif If you had 100 adults (or cattle...or gerbils even) walk barefoot down the beach (wet sand) a-ways, then took at look at the 'prints' they leave behind...you'd see that except for the 'size' (and that wouldn't vary too greatly), the prints would be totally recognizable (as human). The 'variety' of different 'foot shapes' would be quite limited by any 'overall' standard and all would resemble human easily. Okay to the question. wink.gif Why does it seem there are so many 'different types' of prints found of, presumably, Bigfoot? 3, 4, 5 toes, wide ball, skinny ball, thin heel, thick heel etc. etc.?!?! So much variety in fact that 'discerning' what exactly they are is often the question. Assuming 'Bigfoots' are all 'related', wouldn't their feet all be essentially the same shape (5 toes etc. etc.) except for the size?

Just curious YET again. smile.gif

"Harry"
VeinsAfire
Yeah Harry, I too was looking at several footprints and noticed the lack of an arch in the foot, it is strange. I took a long walk through the groves again today to look for anymore tracks but came up with nothing, the soil is pretty wet now so hopefully he will return on this full moon and leave some more. It is interesting, that track was found after the full moon, perhaps they do act differently on these nights when the moon is at its peak.
Bitter Monk
To be honest I have some problems with this photo. For one, what would appear to be the big toe takes up almost half of the front section of the foot. To the right of this, there is what appears to be a very clear claw mark running almost the same length as the "toe". While the ball of the foot is seems to be consistent with some purported bf tracks, the material in the center section of the heel seems to be out of place, giving the track an elongated appearance. It also doesn't seem to be consistent with a mid tarsel break either. In all fairness its difficult to deduce much from the photo as its presented here.
tims
Hi viens,

Do you have rabbits in your garden. In the absence of additional tracks could this be where a rabbit may have been digging for roots? I've seen similar marks in my garden that were made by rabbits. Note the back of the print looks as if you can make out the hind feet of a rabbit and their front paws can make those claw marks. Just an observation. smile.gif
VeinsAfire
I doubt that a rabit dug a foot print in the garden, why would it dig a rounded heal and carry on to the ball perfectly to make the shape of a foot? I respect yours and everyones opinion but they dont add up in my mind. What I am thinking is maybe this creatures foot was missing a toe or possibly a tad deformed.
damndirtyape
Did the track look like this or am I adding things to the picture that isn't there? Is this accurate for the toe line?
tims
I just don't see a print. There way to much loose dirt in the middle, to much so for it to be transferfrom the toes pushing off. I think you would like it to be a footprint but in the absence of others it just to convienent.
VeinsAfire
Yeah damn, that looks right, tims your theory on rabits making 14" tracks is also convienient almost as much as a man in a furry suit. I am merely theorizing that this is a BF print. To tell the truth, no I find it very hard to believe that a bunny is frolicking around making human like tracks in my garden. Sorry but im being honest.
VeinsAfire
WOW! damn, I didnt see the pink flashing until after I made the following post, all I saw was a high contrast version of the photo. I didnt see the other toes either, it deffinatly was not missing any toes now that I re-examined the origional photos. Awesome work!
Bitter Monk
QUOTE(tims @ Feb 22 2005, 08:54 PM)
I just don't see a print. There way to much loose dirt in the middle, to much so for it to be transferfrom the toes pushing off.

That's my biggest problem to from the photo as it is presented. It doesn't look like a push back from the front part of the foot, it just looks like loose soil deposited in the middle.
tims
I've siad my piece and it's really not worth arguing over. People wil see what they want to see. smile.gif
Maheekat
I'm thinking that print is on top of a dog print.....?
JayleeD
OK Maheekat, your new avatar is like freakin' me out man! icon_stressed.gif


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Marigold Bumbleroot
At this point I don't care WHAT the print is of, I'm just impressed that finally someone said they've taken a photo and posted it when they said they would!!! new_lmaosmiley.gif

Mari
Bitter Monk
QUOTE(Marigold Bumbleroot @ Feb 23 2005, 01:10 PM)
At this point I don't care WHAT the print is of, I'm just impressed that finally someone said they've taken a photo and posted it when they said they would!!! new_lmaosmiley.gif

Mari

Indeed. laugh.gif
VeinsAfire
True tims its not worth arguing over, atleast me and damn see something useful so its not a total loss. I am going to send a copy of the photo to my unkle who is a BF researcher in Oregon to see what he thinks.
Bitter Monk
QUOTE(VeinsAfire @ Feb 23 2005, 03:28 PM)
True tims its not worth arguing over, atleast me and damn see something useful.

I'm not trying to be fascetious but what exactly is useful about it? Assuming you didn't cast it or were unable to collect any type of physical evidence from it, how does it assist anyone (i.e. become useful) in resolving the mystery?

Edited to say.....I understand the personal desire to find evidence, and obviously finding evidence would be "useful" on a personal level in that it would accomplish said goal.
VeinsAfire
This is not useful to everyone here, it is useful in the sense that damn and I (from what I've gathered) think its an authentic print. That is the reason I posted it (to see if I can get another opinion who thinks it is authentic). Now I can spend more time studying the local areas until spring. "how does it assist anyone in resolving the mystery?" Because I can now assume it will return and I can possibly get something on a game cam or video recorder. I also am going into town this week and will get some plaster of paris so that I can get a cast next time I find some prints. RB how far from Terra Bella are you? Also if you have access to some game cams you are more then welcome to set them or a few up in the groves. I am almost always on the property so they will be safe. I am still shoping for some and thinking about constructing a few to save some money. If you decide to take me up on this offer or would like to contact me for other reasons, e-mail me through my profile.
Maheekat
QUOTE(JayleeD @ Feb 23 2005, 12:49 PM)
OK Maheekat, your new avatar is like freakin' me out man! icon_stressed.gif


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Bitter Monk
QUOTE(VeinsAfire @ Feb 23 2005, 03:51 PM)
This is not useful to everyone here, it is useful in the sense that damn and I (from what I've gathered) think its an authentic print. That is the reason I posted it (to see if I can get another opinion who thinks it is authentic). Now I can spend more time studying the local areas until spring. "how does it assist anyone in resolving the mystery?" Because I can now assume it will return and I can possibly get something on a game cam or video recorder. I also am going into town this week and will get some plaster of paris so that I can get a cast next time I find some prints. RB how far from Terra Bella are you? Also if you have access to some game cams you are more then welcome to set them or a few up in the groves. I am almost always on the property so they will be safe. I am still shoping for some and thinking about constructing a few to save some money. If you decide to take me up on this offer or would like to contact me for other reasons, e-mail me through my profile.

Fair enough, although there is a whole lot of assumptions there, even if it is a bigfoot track, which IMHO it isn't. Still though, thanks for the level response. thumbup.gif
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