OK. Hope this is the way to start a new subject.

It was this past fall during deer season. It was very early morning with quite a bit of fog around. I had gone to a location that other people had hunted in the past, but had not been hunted in a few years. This location is a creek bottom that is surrounded by pine and oak covered hills but does not have very much underbrush. I had found a place to sit and wait where I thought I would be hidden from view. There is a clear running creek that winds through this bottom and the bottom itself is covered with beach and oak trees.

I got to the site before daybreak and parked my ATV about 200 yards from where I would be. It was on top of the hill and I was going down toward the creek from there. I had driven from the other side of the hill which is the only way in. Once I got to the place I wanted, I sat down with my back to a pine tree. There were a small pine on one side of me and a large fallen log on the other. I was wearing leafy camouflage and had on all my many scent killer and cover scents.

I had sat there for about 30 minutes waiting for the sun to come up enough to see. As I watched the open bottom, I caught movement on the far side of the bottom. It was foggy, but I could tell that it was something coming up a far hill into the bottom. I got ready for a deer to step out into the open. Now, I know this sounds crazy, but I saw a large dark hairy thing walk out into the open and toward the creek. It was walking upright but with a sort of "stoop" to it. I didn't hear any noise except for what sounded like a few limbs breaking as it came out of the brush at the edge of the bottom. When it was about 50 yards in front of me, it went down the creek bank and seemed to bend or kneel down. It then turned and walked up the other side of the creek bank and into a clear cut that borders the bottom. Now, I did smell a rather rank smell, but I don't know if it came from the animal or not. Someone on the other forum suggested that there might have been another animal closer to me that I didn't see. In my judgement, it was probably 7-7 1/2 feet tall, heavy set on top but seemed to have long lean legs. The arms hung down toward the knees but not all the way to them. It was very dark in color with hair that covered it, but didn't seem to be shaggy. I noticed that it did not have to grab anything to get up out of the creek but just seemed to step up on the bank. The head seemed to be large and sort of pointed or coned.

I'm not ashamed to tell you that I got the hell out of there just as soon as it was light enough for me to go back up over the thick brushy hill without using a light. I guess I thought using a flashlight would draw attention to myself. I have not been back to the area and have told no one about this. I know these rednecks around here would make my life miserable. Now that I've had time to really think about all this, I know that I have to go back. I have to see if there is any evidence of other activity. I plan to take my trail camera there and put it up close to where this thing was. Maybe I will be able to better deal with this if I do, or don't, get anything on film.

Thanks for letting me share with you. My hands are shaking and the hair on my neck is standing up just talking about it. Yep, it scared the hell out of me and I'm not afraid to admit it.

Man I can imagine that would be scary.
Now that you have seen one do you think that you would have that same reaction if you were out looking for it and saw it again.
Durring this sighting did the creature seem to notice you at all? And did you hear any thing unusual?
If you don't mind my asking. That sounds like a great sighting.

I'm afraid that I would totally freak out if I saw one again. I haven't been able to go back to the same location again and that's because I am afraid.
I hope as time passes and I have time to do more reading about BF that my courage will come back to me. And, I want to take the camera in when I get brave enough.

To answer your questions, no it did not seem to notice me. I have wondered if it was because I had the scent killing and cover scent on and I was in heavy camo. The only noise I heard was breaking limbs as the animal came into the creek bottom.

You say it was foggy and you left when it was light enough. Can you better describe the lighting at the time of the encounter? Also, were you able to make out any details like the face, sex, etc. What would you say is the closest it came to you?

I assume this was in Arkansas? Where's Arky when you need her...?

If you want help Im sure there is a bigfoot team in the area (hint A.P.E.S.) that would be gald to help.And Im sure you would find it very interesting, and have some backup troops to go back there an check it out

Why doesn't anything like this ever happen within 500 miles of here?

Welcome to the BFF JayleeD and thanks for sharing that encounter with us. I'm sure that was a scary experience since that was the last thing you expected to see.

I think you'll find though, once you've researched this subject more in depth, that you really don't have that much to fear from this creature. Sure, it's a behemoth that could easily crush the biggest man but they just don't tend to be that way. Had it seen you, chances are it would have beat feet out of there very quickly. Consider yourself one of the lucky folks that actually have had the privelege of seeing one of these creatures.

And best of luck to you should you get your nerve worked up enough to go out and set that camera.

Feel free to stick around here too. You'll pick up all kinds of neat little tidbits from this place.

Kewl sighting Jaylee!! How far is it from Polk County in Arkansas? Polk county is on the Oklahoma line nearly halfway up Arkansas. That's where I live and would love to check out this area!!! 8)

This sounds like a very interesting sighting that you had jaylee! I am with Arkansan in the A.P.E.S. and I am in North Louisiana close to the Arkansas line, so where are you at in Arkansas. Maybe me or Arky are close to you. I know we would like to know more about your encounter!

I wish I could draw a sketch of the place that this occured. I was up on a hill that dropped straight into this bottom. It came out into the bottom to my left at I'd say 150 yards, then it walked straight which would put it closer in front of me to about I'd say 110-120 yards. The light was just breaking through enough to see it through the foggy conditions. When I left there, I had to go back up through the pines to get to my ATV. It was thicker there than in the creek bottom so not much light was getting through. As far as facial features, etc. I could not make out any exact features...mostly the shapes and sizes of arms and legs and general movement. I completely forgot that I had binoculars in my back pack. I guess I was just so unnerved that my feeble brain wasn't working. I'm in the southern part of the state in fact very close to the Louisiana line.

Try this on for size, JayleeD. http://www.topozone.com You can run a search by place name and maybe locate your spot on one of the topographical maps from the site. Good luck!

Jaylee Great stuff !! Good luck in coordinating that with Arky & Ranshirl.
If you ever draw any picture of what you saw think of us .

I'm trying to get the topo now. Maybe that will work. Working on a sketch too. Arky I have to tell you...those eyes you have on your web site spook the heck out of me! Eeeeeeerie! I'd probably have to clean out my britches if I saw those eyes up close out in the wild.

Yeah I admit, they are pretty darn eerie! LOL

Those eyes were from a photograph of an actual gorilla and I cut them out and altered them a little to give them a more human-like appearance.

So Arkansan, when are you going to start giving lessons in Photoshop?

Well I don't know Photoshop!

I use Paint Shop Pro 7.04...

Cool! I've got Paintshop too! So, when are you going to start giving Paintshop lessons? :wink:

Well....ummmm....gee....uhhhhhh....

Whenever your ready?

Wow, Jaylee......

So you did not think to yourself 'bigfoot' when you saw the creature?

What did you know or believe about bigfoot before you saw what you did?

Why did it scare you? I mean I would be scared, too. But did it feel threatening in some way? Or monsterlike? Or strangely humanlike? Or did it appear like a natural animal?

Did you ever tell anyone (ie husband or close friend) and what was their reaction?

I am going to answer your questions as honestly as I can:

I did not immediately think bf. I really though for a few seconds, "What's a gorilla doing in these woods?" But, after observing it walk on two legs and seeing the long arms, etc. I knew what it was.

I had seen the P/G film and I had seen Boggy Creek which I thought at the time was just a story someone in Fouke had made up. I believed that there were these creatures but they only lived in the PNW. No way was there one in south Arkansas. Only after I did a search on the internet did I realize that there were sightings taking place everywhere. This came as some what a relief because it let me know I had not gone completely mad.

It scared me because I was alone in a big track of land, it was misty...just breaking light and I'm a chicken when it comes to the unknown.

At no time did I feel threatened. Of course, I don't think the creature ever saw me. Smelled me maybe, but never saw me.

Monsterlike? Good question. I don't think I ever thought monster. But, IMHO, I didn't ever think human. Still don't. It just appeared like an animal. A very BIG animal that was almost graceful in movement and posture if that makes any sense.

I did not go running back to camp and tell anyone what I had seen. I was very shook up, but for some reason I felt I had to get my own mindset right before I told anyone else. The first person I told (months after hunting season was over) was my very best friend. He laughed and told me to "get a life" and I "needed to get out more". Well, that pretty much told me the reaction I would get from anyone around here. There were a couple of weeks of hunting season left but I did not go back into the woods. That made everyone wonder I'm sure because I had hunted almost every day last season. I just told them I was burned out on hunting. I have only recently shared this with my husband. I don't know why I waited, but I think that I knew if he doubted me, it would change our relationship forever. Well, he believed me. In fact, he's taken quite an interest in the subject. He doesn't read or search I don't think, but he understands why I do and backs me 100%.

In fact, I've been doing some investigating on a few sighting that have happened very close to me and he has gone with me when I have gone looking.
We haven't seen or heard anything so far, but I hope that changes soon.

Hope you don't mind more questions:

Are you still afraid to ATV/hike/hunt alone?

Do you camp? Are you afraid now?

If so, do you wish you hadn't seen what you did?

Did you tell any of your children?

When you first saw this thing on two legs, did you think maybe it was a person? A weirdo in a suit? (I do not think so, I am just wondering if the thought crossed your mind)

I find your encounter very interesting in that you did not have much interest in bigfoot before nor were you looking for him/her. You didn't have anything to gain by it and it affected your subsequent behavoir. You are a woman who was alone at the time and you simply saw something you did not expect and it fits with what we think a bigfoot is. Your kind of report is what gets me to thinking there really is something out there .

But then even seasoned 'researchers' have their doubting moments.....

PS Thanks for answering all these questions!

Yes, I am still afraid to hike, hunt, ride horses, ATV's, etc. alone. I enjoy the woods, and have been back in many times but so far, I've always had someone with me. And, I do find myself looking behind every bush and tree and listening for any strange sounds.

I camp, but I have not done so in a tent since the sighting. Only in a well built camper. Not necessarily because of being afraid, but just haven't had any time. We have a camper at the river so that's the only place I've camped since then.

I don't know if I wish that I had not seen the bf. Sometimes I think how lucky I am to be among the few who have witnessed first hand. Then I think how much this has changed my whole way of living and I think I wish I hadn't seen it. It gets really frustrating.

My son knows I'm interested and he knows I saw something but I haven't gone into any details with him. I just don't want him to be afraid to enjoy the outdoors.

I never thought it was a person nor a wierdo in a suit. You've got to remember, even though I saw it walk for quite a ways, it all happened fast. It takes the mind a while, I think, to comprehend what you are seeing.

I have done alot of thinking about how you can be in the right place at the right time. I've been hunting and fishing is some of the thickest, isolated parts of north Louisiana and south AR since I was just a little kid. Now, what I think about is, why that day? And, if I had waited til the afternoon hunt to hunt that particular spot, I probably would not have seen it and my life would have stayed the same.

Msfit, thanks for asking Jaylee some good questions and Jaylee, thanks for answering them. That is some excellent insight and I for one really appreciate you sharing it.

Jaylee, I joined the forums here just a couple days after you posted your encounter but I don't remember reading it then. What an experience! I'm glad you put it here to share with everyone.

Jaylee, can you search your emotions and tell me why you are afraid? Is it just the unknown? What was it about the creature that has frightened you so?

I am trying to figure out my own fear......I mean for petes sake, I camp and hike in prime bear country....do I think about bears when I am hiking? Not really. I do see them at times and its a bit of a scare because they can be unpredictable, but I am careful and observe them while I get away as quick as I can. Same for mountain lions or rattle snakes.....Of course you have to take precautions not to attract them to your campsite....

And you prob have bear where you hunted....so what makes us afraid of bigfoot? Because he resembles the boogie-man? The unknown freakiness of it?

I do know I would feel alot better if I still had horses and rode. I really wasn't afraid of much on horseback.....

I find it fascinating that you found this site after your experience, its means that you did see something like a bigfoot

Have you gone back to the place where this occurred? I would love to see a pic of the draw from where you were sitting

I guess I'm afraid because I have hunted and fished so many deep woods isolated places in my life and had never seen ANYTHING to compare to this. I really don't think the actual creature frightened me. I mean I was afraid, but I think it was the fear of the unknown. He didn't do anything to scare me, don't think he even saw me. It was and still is, just knowing for a fact that this big ole hairy thing is out there, and could be anywhere.

Why are we more afraid of them than of bears? I think it's because everyone knows about bears. I mean, you can pick up books at any library or talk to experts on bears, but IMO when you get right down to it, what do we REALLY know about bf. We have beliefs and opinions, but what do we REALLY know?
So yes, I guess it's a fear of the unknown.

I think just the opposite about being on a horse. I would be afraid my horse would spook and I would get dumped on my arse to face the sucker alone!
At least knowing my horses that's what would happen.

I have gone back to the site once. After some time had passed, I went back and put up my trail camera with the hope of proving what I saw. But, I didn't go alone. Well, when I went back to pickup the camera, it had been smashed to pieces. BF didn't do it. Like I said somewhere else, he didn't do it unless he was riding a Yamaha ATV. But, even though I knew he didn't do it, this even caused me more distress and spooked me even more. I can't prove it, but there was some BS going on with deer leases and hard feelings there so I feel this is what caused someone to smash my camera.

I remember when I first found this site. It's funny now but I would be reading all the info here and reading about sightings and would get spooked all over again. Hair standing on my neck and everything. I would even get up and lock the door and put on the dead bolt. I would peep outside and listen for the dog to bark. I was freaked totally out. It's alot easier now and I've even done some researching on my own latelyeven though I'm still afraid. My hubby has been going with me when I go looking. Now what I want is to get at the truth and be able to prove it.

Thanks Jaylee Now I don't feel like such a pansy

I'm gonna bug you more, but gotta get back to work!

Have a great day

Great questions Msfit and thanks for sharing Jaylee. I can totally relate to the fear that you mention. It is a strange thing. BFs are probably a whole lot less dangerous than any other large predator but still the fear is greater. I just assumed it was because BF is an unknown. Actually, they arent supposed to exist. Maybe it was the childhood fear that was instilled by legend of boggy creek and the way the media has played BFs up to be scary monsters, even if they didnt exist. Tabloid fodder. :rolleyes: That's one thing I cant shake though, the fear. I dont really even believe a BF would hurt me if I encountered one up close but I would probably die of a heart attack. The only way I differ from you Jaylee, is that I still wish I hadnt seen one. Too big of an affect on me, it was. Cant enjoy a good day in the woods without BF crossing my mind about 1000 times. I do hunt and ride and hike etc. and by myself in the day but no way in hell am I going at night by myself. I dont really like the idea of going at all at night but I know it is something I have to do if I want to find answers. I do it and I do it with someone else with me but I gotta have some light for sure... and my bear-spray that someone advised me not to use. I have been known to travel a short distance at night on an ATV, with lights, gathering firewood but I have to admit, that is usually when I have some liquid courage...heehee. One of the hardest things about this whole thing, after seeing one: The fear. AND...It's not really a justified fear, it's just there. Hopefully I will overcome it cuz I sure as heck dont want to fall over dead should I ever succeed in my endeavors...lol

Angie, I sound real brave about looking for evidence and gonna find the proof, but....fall 2003 isn't here yet. Fall means deer season and going into the woods way before daybreak and coming out on those little narrow trails after dark when anything could jump out and get me. It also means going it alone. That will be the big test for me. I really don't know how I will react when that day gets here. I do know that if I don't go, everyone will know that I'm either crazy, sick or dead!

Yeah...Jaylee! I feel for you. I really hope you can overcome. Unfortunately, I already know what its like....my sighting was a few years ago and it has affected those hunt times for me. I have done it and I tell you it sucked big-time. Walking out to your stand, just try to block it out. I did, tried to think about other things. Coming in after dark seemed to freak me out more...them mini mag-lights just dont get it. This past fall I spooked some deer on my way out and I about crapped my pants. Very nerve-racking. You will be able to pull through, just try and remember what it was like before you saw a BF. I know it is impossible but you can talk yourself into stuff. If one was even around, you wouldnt know it anyway and they wouldnt hurt you if they were. It is just "dumb" fear and we can be strong enough to overcome it. Just dont let your imagination run wild is all. It is hard to do but it is a neccessity if you are to still go on with your life the way you want. And hell, If I cant do it with the mini mags, which I have, I'll just lug my big ole 1.5 million candle power, cordless spotlight with me...lol . A little tip though....My bear-spray helps...makes me feel more comfortable, moreso than my gun even. Guess I just know I probably wont shoot in the dark but I sure as heck will lay in with the spray if need be....lol

Jaylee and Angie, I just have to say that I think you both are totally cool.

And as far as getting tripped out about bigfoot going to and from your stand when its dark, I'll readily admit that when I'm heading to my stand during bow season, its not hard at all to get freaked about bigfoot. I just know that as I'm starting to climb that pinetree, just about the time I get ten feet off the ground, a big ole hairy hand is gonna' reach out and grab me by the ankle. And I've never even seen one. Yet.

Rifle season is different though. I'm a regular Billy Badass when I'm totin' my rifle and I've got a sidearm strapped to my waist. I guess it just gets the testosterone flowing right with me.

I think I'm going to try whistling while I walk to and from the stand. Maybe the theme to "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" or "Bridge over the river Qui" or however you spell it. That way, Mr. bf will know I'm there and unless he's a real stickler for bad whisteling, he'll let me pass.

Or, I might just get me a big ole 4 wheel drive with 25 inch tires and hunt from that thing. If he wants me, he's gonna have to work for it!

Jaylee, you are too funny I had a vivid picture of you walking to your stand whistleing a tune to one of the Clint Eastwood westerns, the Pale-horse one, with the town called Hell...lol You will be alright. Just do whatever you have to to get through it. I have even ruined my hunts a few times, during prime-time, just before dark by leaving early. I keep at it though. Just dont give up entirely. I wont let fear keep me from doing something that I enjoy and you dont sound like the type to either.

Fish, I think you're way cool too. It's nice to know that you have a good grasp on the BF thing, even without seeing one. And it makes me feel a lot better too to know that we arent the only ones fighting the fear.

Jaylee; Great report...I know the feeling though. Kinda cool it happened but you wish to God it didn't. Can't tell you much about getting it out of your head but for me I think about all the times I've been "in the woods" since and have yet to see another. At least what I could say was one with relative certainty. I wish you luck when you venture out again. Take care. Mark

Angie could you please tell us about your sighting ? What part of the country are you in?

Having you ladies say that your life has changed since your sightings and not in a positive way makes me feel like this:

I wish this was all a hoax

Maybe some parts of the changes have been positive Msfit. I mean, I've met some wonderful people and I've gotten interested in something that someday might really matter to the scientific world as a whole. And, my fear is my own shortcoming. Understandable yes, but still my problem.

Here I am trying to tell you not to be afraid and I'm just a big ole weenie!

Jaylee and Angie, too-I want to know how you girls feel about much of what is out there information-wise about bigfoot from the perspective of someone who knows they exist because they saw one and has no doubt about it.

So many hoaxes, some nuggets of insight.....what do you think of the organizations and the info they have.....does it sound legit to you- alot of it?

Just wondering...

And I still am hoping Angie will post her experience for me to get scared at!

Hey all. Just made it back to this thread after work and being totally engrossed in another thread. Msfit, I looked and looked for the thread where I first posted links to my sighting. I did that shortly after I joined this forum. (Where is it, Bipto?) I cant find it anywhere but that could be my fault. I have to tell you, before I give you the link, that mine was not scary at all. Not in the very least and not a very significant sighting either. Just saw one while driving down the road. Probably why I have such a big problem with the fear I have. No logical reason for it, it's just there. Whatever you do Msfit, dont think that BFs are mean, horrible monsters. I dont think they are, it's just human ignorance that makes us afraid.

Also Msfit....If you have any questions then feel free to ask in another thread. I would sure hate to take away from anything Jaylee can get through the thread on her sighting. Maybe Bipto can find the thread on my sighting??? Bipto? I cant find any posts before April and I think mine was probably in March...Thanks

Here are a couple links Msfit, just for you

http://www.n2.net/prey/bigfoot/sbs/oscoda.htm

The one above is on Bobbie's site and the one I like more. I had more time to think about it but I STRESS that if you have any questions, just ask, in another thread. I have nothing to hide and will be more than happy to answer any questions you may have. Here is another link, it was the first site that came up on my search engine so of course, being who I am, I posted shortly after I found it:

http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=1211

Also Msfit, I will be leaving for 5 days straight from work tomorrow night. I will probably be able to get on here a couple times tomorrow before work, in between packing and stuff so I wont be able to converse after Wednesday afternoon. 3:30 and I have to be out the door or Im late...I'll be back Tuesday night though...just so you know.

I discussed my fears with John Green when I made my report to him.He said "it's too bad that you would be afraid of something that probably would not hurt you.BF makes an excellent bogeyman though." Then he asked."Why would your mind be so occupied with one animal when there are so many other predators that would kill you?".

My answer was "I dont know why but the fear goes way deeper than that.I'm not afraid of predators in the bush."Maybe I feel I'm smarter than they are(probably not),Im a full grown adult with no outward sign of weakness.Probably a false sense of security but I think animals can sense things like fear and weakness to select natural victims.

However,momma bears arent to be messed with.

What I'm getting at is,BF ...............IS DAMN SCARY.

The first I head of it was the 1975 movie,Myths and Monsters.

The narrator of that movie had the perfect voice for instilling lasting fear into a 10 yr old.I'll never forget it.

However,I thought that if I ever did see one,I would die of fright.Didnt happen obviously.

Cryptic, I think what you said is right on. John Green asked "Why would your mind be so occupied with one animal when there are so many other predators that would kill you?" I would like to answer that if you don't mind.

I think about this alot. I KNOW FOR A FACT that there are a hell of a lot more rattlesnakes and bears and wolves and PEOPLE for that matter, walking and slithering around in my woods than there are bf. And all these have the ability to attach and kill you. BUT, from the time I was just a little bitty girl, my Dad taught me how to handle most situations with these and other animals. Now, Daddy didn't tell me nothin bout no bigfeet!

It's just the fear of not knowing when a bf might walk out and let out a scream.
There are a bunch of these other animals in the woods but I don't know how many bfs there are.

And MsFit, to answer you question. I have just begun to read and study and try to learn about bf. You're right, there are mega amounts of information out there to wade through. And I can't honestly say that I know what to believe. I have a couple of people that I talk to about this and I completely trust what they tell me. So I guess you just have to go with your gut feeling and trust those close to you and try to get over your fear.

I agree Jaylee.Those people slithering around the woods are really scary.

Jim, some of these ones I've seen around here are low enough to be slithering!

Wow, thank-you Angie...I actually remember reading your report before I met you here

So Angie, same question: Did you have any interest or knowledge or 'belief' about bigfoot before this happened?

Do you still have strange things going on when you visit this property?

And hello to you cryptic

Maybe you wouldn't mind sharing your experience, too?

Is this the one you mean, Angie?

http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?act...hl=&#entry18629


[edit] and just why are you asking him? Am I now invisible? Oops! I AM invisible! Damned cheap second-hand inviso ring... ripoff piece of crud...

I thought that I would never have the courage to walk in the wilderness again after my sighting.

Bfro #3368

Last year my son,brother in law and I climbed mount Cheam near Chilliwack BC.Not a particularly hard climb.
not a lot of trees around so I felt relatively comfortable.

I have read stories about sasquatch in native legends as being Omah,protector in the wilderness and have heard reports of them coming to the aid of hurt people to the point of carrying an injured man to the edge of the forest.

I convinced myself that it was a good thing to have Omah in the woods and a whistle could summon him.

This put my fear to rest for the time being.

I used to work on high power line structures.Overcoming fear is something I've had to do many times.Its all in your head.The best way for me was to sing something.Making up a song that makes you laugh at its silliness will often take your mind to the right place.

Whistling is good for that too.Just not in the woods.

Whistling "the good bad and ugly" could get you face to face with Big,Hairy and ugly

Wonder if he'd be packing pistols?

Hey cryptic! I have been trying to look up your report, but alas I am sorely incompetent in the art of website navigation

I can't seem to figure out how to look up a report by # in the BFROs database.....help!

Look in "reports by region" you will find sightings for Canada,then B.C.

A list will appear with short descriptions of the sightings

Mine reads"Tree stump gets up and runs away"

Not exactly the way I would like to put it but thats ok.

Good point cryptic...

Not much sounds crazier than running tree stumps...

Like I tell my wife, "I don't need your help to look crazy, thank you very much!"