I just read this report and it sounds really promising. I was surprised though that there was no mention in the report of the investigator recording all the incredible sounds that they heard. I know there are some people on this forum affiliated with the BFRO. Were these vocalizations recorded? Will they be posted so we can all hear them?

http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=8657

I know my wife would have asked me to buy a gun the 1st time she had seen something like that.

I think if this were true, bf would be easily discovered. I notice the investigator didn't reveal his or her name on this one?

The investigator states that the animal was perhaps 40 to 50 feet away next to the neighbors house.

I would think that's when an investigator gets off his/her ass and walks 40 to 50 feet in that direction. So close, yet so far away. 

There are other parts of the follow up that sound like this as well. This investigator uses a dash of romanticisim with a pinch of assumption in his/her reporting.

These reports are very interesting and VERY frustrating at the same time. How can an investigator go to the site of hot activity like the posting has and not bring the basic equipment to record ANY of this stuff. Just like the show on OLN, when the action gets hot, they run the other direction! If these recent reports are true there is no reason that the existence of BF hasn't been proven. It may sound too simple a plan in this case, call the thing in, record the answer calls, with the aid of night vision film the creature as much as possble and when you get a clean shot shoot it in the chest with a dangerous game class rifle. Deed is done, now go into the process of protection of the rest of the population.

These reports are very interesting and VERY frustrating at the same time. How can an investigator go to the site of hot activity like the posting has and not bring the basic equipment to record ANY of this stuff. Just like the show on OLN, when the action gets hot, they run the other direction! If these recent reports are true there is no reason that the existence of BF hasn't been proven. It may sound too simple a plan in this case, call the thing in, record the answer calls, with the aid of night vision film the creature as much as possble and when you get a clean shot shoot it in the chest with a dangerous game class rifle. Deed is done, now go into the process of protection of the rest of the population.

Hummm - can someone enlighten me?  Where in the report does it say the investigator didn't have a tape recorder or a camera?  Where in the report does it say the investigator ran away?  I think you are assuming far too much.

How can an investigator go to the site of hot activity like the posting has and not bring the basic equipment to record ANY of this stuff.

about 2yrs ago my husband and my father-in-law were in the front yard when they heard screams that made the hair stand up on their necks i didnt think much about it until about a week later the family was gathered together in the yard right around dark and the thing screamed again we all still laugh about the fact that my husband was still talking to his brother with his back to him when i informed him that mike left along with his companions as soon as that thing screamed .there has been so much activity from this thing that it would take me a week to tell it all so ill just tell some of what has been going on i have saw him 4 times and my husband which is an avid hunter has yet to see him and laughed at me until he had to come home and tell me that 3 members in the hunbting club have seen him.all he would say was they saw some kind of monkey .as crazy as this may seem while i am sitting here typing this i heard him run behind the house with that all to familiar ground shaking sound.no i am not insane and if someone else had told me this story about 2 yrs ago i would have thought them insane.the one reason above many that i havent reported this before now is the fact that there is so much to tell and the one that i saw was unlike all the other reports ive read until i read the report from shelby county and i was so glad to know that the one they saw was reddish brown i was outdoors talking on the phone when i saw him stroll right down a roadbed riht across from my house i hung up the phone and watched him till he was out of sight.he was huge and you could hear the dead trees on the ground crunch like someone crushing cans as he moved i watched an episode on tv about how to call one up by tapping on a wood box an it works i made the mistake of doing it when i was home alone and it scared me so bad that i stopped walking outside even in my yard.he started answering me back with the similar kind of sound i was making when all of a sudden he screamed out right across the road from me and then the little building across the road started shaking i never saw him that day but he banged on the back of that building like he was furious my folks know that i would not puch as much effort in to something unless i knew for sure what it was i was messing with my youngest sister has begged me along with my children to stop messing with him after he threw something at me on 3 different occasions so big that it broke limbs off trees as it fell and god knows i am actually afraid that he is going to hurt my husband one night when he comes home from his second shift job .yes he stays right around my home most every nightther is no doubt what so ever that if someone who knows about these creatures would hang arond my home a while they wold be amazed.

ALSO NOTICED: i found alot of hair it was wrapped around a tree like something had rubbeb itself againts it.

OTHER WITNESSES: 3 others said they saw it and lots have heard the sounds.

TIME AND CONDITIONS: it usually starts around dusk and you can hear him sometimes all night.

ENVIRONMENT: we have pines we have swamps old gravel pits ,mountains are all around ther are several creeks nearby.

Follow-up investigation report:

After contacting the witness and walking around her property for two days, I understood the magnitude of the situation confronting her. She is a very intelligent person and has been eager to share her knowledge of these wonderful animals. She is able to elicit vocalizations from them. She has a powerful, beautiful singing voice, and is able to project calls into the woods around her home. The animals find these calls irresistible. On the first night of my first visit, we sat up to hear the animals. I heard the most amazing array of sounds. These vocalizations included short falling calls, deep grunts and huffs, resonant, forcefully-projected growls from about forty to fifty feet away, a mumbling, articulated sort of growl, siren-like calls, a kind of bubbling vocalization, and a stunning occurrence of a short, high-pitched, wailing call that repeated sixteen times, only to stop when answered by a powerful huff-type grunt. I also heard monkey-like chattering, and a poor imitation of a barred owl call. The witness is able to elicit the barred owl call by projecting one of her own. Sometimes the sounds were in answer to her calls, and sometimes the animals spontaneously vocalized with each other. We counted at least two animals from the fact that interacting calls came from two different locations.

I smelled an animal on several occasions. The smell was intense and acrid. It reminded me of plastic almost at the point of combustion. Growling accompanied the strongest of these smells. The animal was perhaps forty to fifty feet away, beside the next-door neighbor's house. The witness' small dog was barking ferociously at it, backing up toward us as he barked. He finally ended up under our chairs on the porch.

The hair collected from the site is black, wiry and somewhat coarse. It was discovered about seven feet up on a tree behind her house. She is about my size (five feet four inches) and she said she had to reach to get the hair. She retains the hair at her residence.

In addition to the sounds, I observed footprints that had really interesting characteristics. Four of them indicated that an animal had stood in two separate places about six to eight feet from her house, close to windows with views of the interior of her house. They measured 17 inches in length, but were shallow and lacked definition due to the hard-packed dirt. The witness showed me that the footprints had killed the underlying moss, revealing the general form of the print. Each set of parallel footprints showed a distance of two feet between the right and left feet. We found another print behind her house alongside a creek. It was of a right foot. The substrate was very coarse sand mixed with small pebbles. The print measured twelve inches in length, six inches across at the ball of the foot, and four inches across at the heel. The heel was almost two inches deep. The measurements contain a possible error of one-fourth inch. This right footprint displayed five sharply-defined toes. They were very plump and round, with little space between. They diminished in size from the large toe to the smallest toe, just as in humans. The big toe was skewed to the inside of the foot by about three-fourth's inch. Casting was unsuccessful due to the substrate.

One large tree trunk with a diameter of about fourteen inches and a length of about fifteen feet appeared one morning next to her home in front of a wooded area. From drag marks, it was apparent that the trunk had been dragged from across the road, a distance of at least seventy yards. There was a persimmon sitting on top of the trunk when it was found. There are tree breaks and crossed branches that appear from day to day across paths in the wooded area behind her house. The paths are well worn, and are about two feet wide. On these paths, we have found scat that resembles human feces. The scat is black and about one-and-one-half inches in diameter. It consists of pellets with a ropey twist on the end, and it contains persimmon seeds.

The witness, her sister, and nephew have all seen the animals. The sister and nephew have seen a dark, medium-sized animal peering from behind a tree at a nearby picnic area. The nephew has seen what he thinks is a dark-colored juvenile in the woods across from his aunt's house. In addition to the sighting in the report she made, the witness has seen dark forms moving just beyond the light in her back yard. She has also seen a dark form move away from a window near her in the night. Her most recent experience occurred one night after she realized one of the animals was outside the front of her home. She eased over to the front door, turned on the light and surprised a large red male squatting between two trees. She said the red color was dulled with gray. He had been watching her as she worked on the computer in a darkened room.

The witness has endured the early shock and fear associated with her recognition of the animals' presence. She has fought fear of walking outside both day and night. She has been stressed and concerned about the safety of her husband returning from work at night. But her feelings have now evolved into an acceptance of the animals' place in her life and a deep curiousity about what these animals really are.

I look forward to further contact with her. New information will be added to this report when it becomes available.

This sounds like an habituation situation (sorry for sounding like Jesse Jackson). The BFRO needs to require their investigators to at least carry a sound recording device with a directional microphone, a decent 35mm camera and/or a video cam when investigating a report where observation is even remotely possible. If an investigator cannot afford even this basic bit of equipment they should not be an investigator. The only reason for not attempting to record these encounters is if it could be considered infringement on privacy (the withness or other property owners not Sas).

If this report is valid then BFRO has dropped the ball. Additional investigators should have been assigned during the Freaking Two Years this has gone on!!! (meanie_head coming out in me!)

If a group of people can be as organized as BFRO seems to be and cannot field at leat a small investigation team of at least 2 or 3 people they might as well close- up shop. They seemed to be able to get together a pretty large group for the Texas expedition why not 'bama. This report is of the perfect situation for repeatable observation. Privacy withstanding, mashalling all resources should be paramount when faced with such an opportunity.

hi bitter have you found any new bigfoot evidence etc in your state lately. bill green

The story itself has more holes in it that Versatiles undewear likely does.

Some of the allegations of incompetence towards the BFRO and the investigator made here come from complete ignorance of the situation and are hasty assumptions at best

Really? I thought that they came from what was written in the report!!
We commented in the way we did with what was available at the time. If we knew more facts..then our comments may have been different. But there you have it.
And before you might say that facts were with held because of privacy issues..let me say that I have no problem with that. and I do not think anyone else does either.
If anyone is acting with ignorance in the matter it is because the report appeared to be a done deal..with no further follow up planned.....so draw your own conclusions about it all, like many other reports of this nature. And that is what people did.
As for hasty assumptions? No. For the most part people dealt with the facts of the report, as they were laid out. People can only work with what they are given.
It was a public report was it not?
It was not stolen from an active file and smuggled out to be revealed to the masses.. as a plot to discredit, was it?
Well then..from a P.R. point of view perhaps some people should grow a thicker skin...and not accuse people ,who read public reports,then make comment on such reports,as being ignorant..hasty..and making assumptions, If you wish to enlighten then give out the whole story...and not just dribs and drabs..then turn around and accuse people of ignorant behavior when they try to piece it all together!
The solution is easily arrived at...just be more careful about what is released into the public ....and when it is released. That would save us from acting ignorant in your eyes...and save you from having to keep pulling reports from the public domain!! Second one this week....
OF course this is just my opinion...which ends at the tip of my nose..