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JustinCredible
say if some idiot is out running in the woods with a gorilla suit / bigfoot ... and you shot him. what would happen to you? manslaughter charges or murder ?

ive been thinkin about that alot latly.. i dont know if its been posted before
mspstomper
QUOTE(JustinCredible @ Jan 14 2005, 07:48 PM)
say if some idiot is out running in the woods with a gorilla suit / bigfoot ... and you shot him. what would happen to you? manslaughter charges or murder ?

ive been thinkin about that alot latly.. i dont know if its been posted before

manslaughter, you've got to have the intent to kill a human being
GuyInIndiana
Self defense... the world needed one less idiot and you felt obligated to do your part to make the world safer.

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MountainLady
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Jynxifer
Who said anything about reporting the shooting......
micahn
QUOTE(GuyInIndiana @ Jan 14 2005, 07:54 PM)
Self defense... the world needed one less idiot and you felt obligated to do your part to make the world safer.

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He has it dead on if the guy runs at you. Just make sure you shoot him in the face instead of back of the head lol.
Anyone dumb enough to be in the woods in any kind of animal costume is dumber then dirt anyway so they need killing.
And as long as you can prove that you had fear for your life or someones else life you can kill them without having to worry about anything. That is here in the USA anyway not sure about other places like Canada.
Someone running at you in a Gorilla suit in the woods would be enough to say you had some fear for you life :-) Even if it was a walk instead of a run even lol
rockinkt
The right to defend oneself or one's property against wildlife is OK in BC.
It is incumbent on the person(s) involved to immediately report the action to the nearest Conservation or Police officer. Any wild animal not killed under a valid licence or legal right (Native special rights) in BC is the property of the Crown. Therefore, any body parts must be left on the animal and the animal left where it is killed until disposition by the appropriate authorities.
If you can show that your actions were reasonable under the circumstances - i.e. fear for your life, mistaken belief that it was an animal. You will probably be OK.
Be prepared for a detailed investigation by the police though. They will want to eliminate the chances it was not as it appeared to be.
crewchf
Make sure the guy's dead,, you only want one story,, YOURS!!!!

Crew Chief
Doctor Moreau
Check his wallet for cash- bury him. Then continue hunting. Who's gonna know.
Huntster
QUOTE(JustinCredible @ Jan 14 2005, 07:48 PM)
say if some idiot is out running in the woods with a gorilla suit / bigfoot ... and you shot him. what would happen to you? manslaughter charges or murder ?...

Depending on the circumstances, you may not be convicted of anything.

But I think it's a guarantee that you'd be charged and tried for something. That fact alone makes a shoot first attitude something to consider beforehand .

In Alaska you'd certainly be committing the hunting crime of (a) shooting a creature with no open season, or (cool.gif shooting something of which you didn't identify positively as having an open season.

I would think that the best two possible defenses to seek would be:

(1) A self-defense position (even if no obvious threat exists, you could possibly be looked at leniently if you simply maintained the the mere sight of the creature scared you damned near to death)

(2) Or simply plea a lesser charge, like "I thought it was a bear"

In either case, I'd start typing like hell, and start researching my publication opportunites.
RobUstes
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Your Honor, he shot me, when i was trying to get in touch with my inner gorrilla !!
chrisandclauida2
QUOTE(Doctor Moreau @ Jan 15 2005, 11:25 AM)
Check his wallet for cash- bury him. Then continue hunting. Who's gonna know.

the next hunter who finds him after animals dig him up and the cops who find your prints on his property and your cell mate.call the police and a lawyer though not necessaryly in that order.
Sachmo
What you should probably do is cut off the head or a hand and bring it back, that should be enough to prove the existence...
chrisandclauida2
QUOTE(Sachmo @ Jan 15 2005, 02:46 PM)
What you should probably do is cut off the head or a hand and bring it back, that should be enough to prove the existence...

all you do is prove you shot some guy in a bigfoot suit and then mutilated the body.i think your threads are mixed up. this is the shot a guy in an ape suite not now you shot em what next thread. your answer did make me laugh though
Bf believer
I think the worst they could probably charge you with is involuntary manslaughter which would be hard for them to prove because it looked more like an animal than a man. They might be able to stick you with wreckless discharge of a firearm But that could be easily beat if you could prove that you truly felt you were in danger for your safety. As long as it was hunting season and you had your hunting license and proper tags it would more than likely be ruled as an accident.
Doctor Moreau
Well to get serious for a second:

"MANSLAUGHTER, INVOLUNTARY: In order for a person to be found guilty of involuntary manslaughter the government must prove that someone was killed as a result of an act by the person;

Second, in the circumstances existing at the time, the person's act either was by its nature dangerous to human life or was done with reckless disregard for human life; and

Third, the person either knew that such conduct was a threat to the lives of others or knew of circumstances that would reasonably cause the person to foresee that such conduct might be a threat to the lives of others. "

Involuntary manslaughter maybe- but even that might not stick. A guy prancing through the woods in a furry suit during hunting season? I mean he's just asking for an accident to happen. wacko.gif
Saskwatcher
I say, "Thin the herd !"
Sachmo
QUOTE(chrisandclauida2 @ Jan 15 2005, 05:24 PM)
QUOTE(Sachmo @ Jan 15 2005, 02:46 PM)
What you should probably do is cut off the head or a hand and bring it back, that should be enough to prove the existence...

all you do is prove you shot some guy in a bigfoot suit and then mutilated the body.i think your threads are mixed up. this is the shot a guy in an ape suite not now you shot em what next thread. your answer did make me laugh though

Then it has served its purpose. wink.gif
Leemon
Mark it as cleaning out the gene-pool. new_whistle.gif
thomas
Most of the world don't believe in bigfoot. So you go into the woods and shoot something you thought was bigfoot but kill a person, I think you're going into prison or the loony bin if you're lucky.

That's like going into the woods to shoot a martian, and you kill a person with a martian outfit. Both of you will be seen as nuts, except the other nut is dead.
uffda320
I can't imagine you'd be convicted of any kind of crime. Even the worst lawyer should be able to defend you in this instance. The only crime I could maybe see you getting in trouble with, would be if there's a law against shooting a primate in your area. But, I'm pretty sure there's nothing in the books that says you can't shoot a gorilla in Minnesota! icon_really_happy_guy.gif
thomas
[quote=micahn,Jan 14 2005, 08:22 PM]
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Anyone dumb enough to be in the woods in any kind of animal costume is dumber then dirt anyway so they need killing.
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Remember the guy who sprayed deer scent on himself and was getting his ass kicked by a deer while his wife kept filming?!?
RobUstes
Actually uffda, Maryland has that covered by a fine print clause
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or any other species

I've been assured sasquatch would be covered by that hunting reg. smile.gif
flightmedic
QUOTE(crewchf @ Jan 15 2005, 11:02 AM)
Make sure the guy's dead,, you only want one story,, YOURS!!!!

Crew Chief

Chief.........you nailed it!
Sachmo
[quote=thomas,Jan 16 2005, 01:07 AM] [QUOTE=micahn,Jan 14 2005, 08:22 PM]
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Anyone dumb enough to be in the woods in any kind of animal costume is dumber then dirt anyway so they need killing.
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Remember the guy who sprayed deer scent on himself and was getting his ass kicked by a deer while his wife kept filming?!? [/quote]
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Huntster
QUOTE(uffda320 @ Jan 16 2005, 01:03 AM)
...Even the worst lawyer should be able to defend you in this instance....

Yeah, but like they say, most attorneys can get a ham sandwich convicted of a crime.

We're dealing with lawyers here. Anything is possible, and also likely.

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...But, I'm pretty sure there's nothing in the books that says you can't shoot a gorilla in Minnesota!...


You're not very versed in law, are you?

Everything is against the law.
Saskwatcher
You'd get charged, but not convicted.
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