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VeinsAfire
Ok, hope Im not breaking any rules but are there people in here from the area who do spend time in the mountains for this particular reason? Just interested because I personally plan to spend some time in the tree's for this very reason and am wondering if I will be alone. Surely my fiance will not go after hearing recordings of vocalizations of this beautiful creature. Also I believe this creature is sacred so I plan on this being an "aim the camera not the gun" trip.

Cheers!
Hitechhunter
Where are you going? I spend a lot of time looking and listening in the Sierra's and the Siskiyou's.
VeinsAfire
I am moving to Porterville to be exact. As far as where Im going in the mountains I will do some research for most recent activity or possibly find it in this very forum then play it by ear. I also plan on supplying horses and will hopefully be bringing a pack animal, either horse/pony or lama and other needed things I can afford.
Hitechhunter
Check this out for areas to focus on:

Awesome maps on another thread
VeinsAfire
Awesome indeed! So have you recorded any vocalizations Hitech or had any encounters?
Huntster
The only place in my life that I saw any evidence of sasquatch (footprints, several of them in great shape) was near Soda Springs just north of Porterville in the early 70's.
VeinsAfire
Interesting what would you say the size(s) were and were there more then one set of feet? Thanks for jump starting the thread Hunter. biggrin.gif
Huntster
There was one set, approximately 15" - 16" long. They came down a dirt slide (weren't too clear there), crossed the trail (one good print there that caught our attention), and the trail led down the gully into the brush. We followed for about 100 yards or so where it stepped onto a wet, marshy spot. We had a really clear one there.

This was about a mile south of Soda Springs. I forget the actual name of the particular trail, but I'm sure it's on USGS maps.

This was in July or August of 1971 or 1972.
Hitechhunter
I've experienced class B stuff (vocalizations, etc) last summer and my family has had class B stuff throughout the years dating back to the 60's in Calaveras County. A firend and his wife had a clear sighting here in the early 70's.
Hairy Man
VeinsAfire - I got to tell ya, your thread title got my attention! Hairy Man is my handle, and I live in the Sierra Nevada's....AND I was born and raised in Porterville!

There are plenty of bigfooting places in the area, including Soda Springs! There is rumor of a video that came out of Three Rivers, btw.

In case you haven't seen it, here is a cool article for you to read....I'm quite fond of the author. Hairy Man Paper
BowlingBigfoot
Hairy Man,

Now WHY did you have to mention VIDEO? Now my life will be ruined, constantly checking the forum for updates, not getting ANY work done!

Hope all is well Hairy Man.

Good luck VeinsAfire. That is one mighty fine area to search.

BB
Hairy Man
Sorry Bowling!

I'm also sorry that I can't apparently type...Porterville is spelled incorrectly above :pinch:
I'm hanging my head low.... sad.gif
Fishbone35
QUOTE(Hairy Man @ Dec 16 2004, 05:20 PM)
I'm also sorry that I can't apparently type...Porterville is spelled incorrectly above :pinch:

Is it? Is it really? ph34r.gif new_tonguesmiley.gif laugh.gif
Hairy Man
Fishbone.... wub.gif
VeinsAfire
I love that site, was what inspired me to start the thread. biggrin.gif Where are you in the sierras anyway and have you had any encounters within them?

:edit: Guess I should have looked at "BF Encountered - No"

Cheers.
Hairy Man
QUOTE(VeinsAfire @ Dec 17 2004, 06:02 PM)
I love that site, was what inspired me to start the thread. biggrin.gif Where are you in the sierras anyway and have you had any encounters within them?

:edit: Guess I should have looked at "BF Encountered - No"

Cheers.

I live in Sonora, California...right in the heart of bigfoot country!!!

Did you see the report from the Tule River Indian Reservation about a sighting at the pictograph site a few years ago? That was one of the best witnesses I've ever interviewed. BTW...on Tuesday I'm interviewing a traditional Yokuts who is going to allow me to record the Yokuts Bigfoot Song....which has never been recorded or translated before! I'll be writing the paper up for a talk I'll be giving in the near future!

And I have had encounters and seen many, many things...but until I look one in the eye, I'm not going to change my profile to read anything other than "no"....being screamed at isn't good enough for me...cause I want more!
VeinsAfire
Thats good to hear about the interviews. I did read the sighting and a few others about indians having the creatures move closer during song and gatherings. Very interesting, What do you plan on doing with the song? They very well might come to that more so then the recordings of their screams.
Hairy Man
I can imagine that traditional songs and music would draw in a curious sasquatch!

I was planning on writing a paper on the information and presenting it and the song at a future bigfoot conference. I was thinking of using the recording out in the field as well. The singing used a traditional clapperstick while singing, so it has a wonderful beat to it!
BenThere_2
QUOTE
And I have had encounters and seen many, many things...but until I look one in the eye

And once you do you'll never be the same. wink.gif

Robert
peregrine
QUOTE(Hairy Man @ Dec 23 2004, 03:38 PM)
I can imagine that traditional songs and music would draw in a curious sasquatch!

I was planning on writing a paper on the information and presenting it and the song at a future bigfoot conference.  I was thinking of using the recording out in the field as well.  The singing used a traditional clapperstick while singing, so it has a wonderful beat to it!

For what it's worth, I've talked to Native Americans where I live who think their traditional music attracts sasquatches.

What I personally suspect is going on with these sightings is the animals are interested in the food scraps that they've come to associate with music played at some of the large traditional ceremonies held in remote areas, similar to the way bears in parts of the country have come to relate rifle fire with deer and elk gut piles.
BenThere_2
wink.gif

The stories that have been told to me actually have "offerings" to these creatures
as a way of appreciation to them. Set aside and never bothered by the tribes people attending. Large amounts of different foods.
The ceremonial music and accompaning noise would lure any curiosity seeker of the woods to see what was occuring.
These ceremonies are sometimes small sometimes large gatherings held in relative secret to outsiders.
My understanding here in Oklahoma they are still being performed today.
Would love to here more Peregrine if time and permission allowed.

Robert
Susan
Very interesting............yes, I'd love to hear more too, Peregrine....

Can't wait for your next paper, Hairy Man!! biggrin.gif
peregrine
QUOTE(BenThere_2 @ Dec 24 2004, 12:32 PM)
wink.gif 

The stories that have been told to me actually have "offerings" to these creatures as a way of appreciation to them. Set aside and never bothered by the tribes people attending. Large amounts of different foods.
The ceremonial music and accompaning noise would lure any curiosity seeker of the woods to see what was occuring.
These ceremonies are sometimes small sometimes large gatherings held in relative secret to outsiders.
My understanding here in Oklahoma they are still being performed today.
Would love to here more Peregrine if time and permission allowed.

Robert

I have nothing to offer that is all that significant in terms of the big picture.

Stories.

A few stories of sightings in association with ceremonies.

Whether or not there is actually a direct correlation is subject to interpretation, and there is no way to really know how many of the claims are legit.

I’ve been with Indians who were certain that Barred Owl calls were being made by sasquatches. When told the sounds were made by owls, the opinion voiced was that the sasquatches were imitating owls. Of course, non-Indians may make similar claims, so I’m not sure that that is so much a cultural phenomenon as just not knowing bird calls.

With regard to sightings, as I stated earlier, it seems (to me) that the animals were after food, presuming the sightings were not cases of mistaken identity. However, I think many Indians would assert that it's the sounds of ceremonial music that attract sasquatches. I say the sasquatches are after food primarily because when they are seen they are, as likely as not, rummaging through trash cans or poking around camp sites after pow-wows or large ceremoniies of other sorts. I’ve also been told that people participating in small scale ceremonies, such as men at sweat lodges, have also reported seeing sasquatches. Who knows?

We’re talking two disparate worlds; I don’t pretend to understand all that much. Some, like Hairy Man, are priviledged to get glimpses into the heart and mind of native cultures, enough to understand that they often think and relate to the world in radically different ways than those of us raised in the dominant culture. I see the sasquatch as an animal; many (if not most) Indians see sasquatches as being more like people. They (Indians) fear them, but at the same time, they also seem to be proud that they are around.
VeinsAfire
Ok I have officially moved to the area, the area is not porterville but Terra Bella (sorry about the slight difference in location). I would like to meet and possibly assist anyone in the area with similar interests. At the moment we (my fiance and I) have 17 horses on the property and plan on possibly using them on the adventure(obviously not all 17). We are now getting into the early stages of planning the trips. At the moment I am seeking independant researchers with similar goals. First off I do not plan on harming these creatures unless very hostile action is taken by the creatures such as charging, or touching one of the researchers in an unfriendly manner. Though I would rather bring a tranquilizer gun rather then live rounds this may or may not be the final decision of the group.

Goals:

1. I do not plan on getting rich and I am not doing this for money.

2. This will not be a bag a squatch trip.

3. The group will operate as a group and if some footage/photos/info. comes from these trips it will belong to the group not a particular individual and will be discussed with the group before introduction to outside parties or people.

4. I am not seeking leaders but a team of people familiar with working as a group (I am not leading the group).

5. There will not be a leader of the group but decisions will be made by the group as a whole. I find that a leader giving orders causes more harm then good.

I hope to hear from some locals soon due to the fact that my fiance is running a business, I cannot run around town asking about this subject or eventually we will be recognized as weird.

Just for the record I am a 22 year old male.


Cheers! Hope to hear from some people soon!
Hairy Man
Terra Bella??? Oh well, we forgive you. biggrin.gif

I am not aware of any fellow bigfooters in that particular area, but there are a LOT of areas you should visit. The Yokuts have many, many stories, especially involving Giant Sequoias (like the Trail of A Hundred Giants...hint, hint). If you get a chance, stop by the reservation and see if they will give you permission to visit the Hairy Man pictographs (Painted Cave). They are much more impressive in person!

Good luck!
VeinsAfire
Me and my fiance are planning on visiting the reservation to see the pictographs, thank you for the suggestion, I was wondering how much the Bionic Ear costs and if it is pretty effective as I have a digital Olympus voice recorder that I think will work quite well if assisted with the Bionic Ear. I am also planning on buying some night vision binoculars and a compact video recorder along with a few disposable cameras. Any suggestions and/or information would be greatly appreciated.
billgreen2005bigfoot
hi researchers good evening this is great report please keep me posted thanks bill green ct sasquatch researcher. please keep in touch ok.
billgreen2005bigfoot
hi researchers good morning so any new sightings etc from sierra mountains. also does anyone here have any free plaster cast sasquatch footprints that they are giving away. im just wondering... thanks bill green ct sasquatch researcher. smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif please keep in touch ok...
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