Why are you looking for this animal? please ask yourself.

Many people that have seen it are not active researchers. I would say less than 5 % have seen one looking for it.

I have seen one myself. 2 years ago. I know they exist.

My uncle had seen a foot print 35 years ago in the creekbank in the foot hills near the north fork on the snoquailme River in the cascades NE of Mount Si just north of interstate 90.

He spoke of this mythical creature matter of factly. i did not belive until i found the footprints while alone in the blast area. where he had said it had gone.

This first encounter with sasquatch was a print find near the miners car on the windy ridge road on the eastern approach to Mt. St. Helens.

My uncle mac spotted a sasquatch on a hill in the bear meadow just south of the blast area on the eastern side. His account is listed on the BFRO. Here

http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=4779

i have found sasquatch tracks on more than 5 out of 20 trips to the wilderness in that same area.

I have found tracks 5 times and seen one myself once in 5 years near council lake washington.

We all need to get out and look together. It will be better this way when we do find it.

I am not talking about charging people i am just saying co-operative camping.

If we establish a set of rules that everyone abides by(no shooting your .454 into the wilderness) during the trip we will all be fine.

We could have the biggest sasquatch hunt in history.

What is important is having a look for yourself. Come out and have a look.

I am personally inviting you to come and look.

I will send you to where i saw one myself.

ken Ken Yielding

I for one would be interested in learning more about this offer....please tell me more.

Ken

Since a good number of poeple on this board are living outside of the PACNW the best thing to do would be to start organizing something there yourself. You do have the use of this board so getting the information out is not any problem.
If you want to see something like this take place then take the initiative and set an exact time, date and meeting place and see who comes? I bet you would be surprised. JMHO

Agreed.

I'd not have a problem traveling out for a mass campout/search.

In fact that sounds like a great idea.


RF

hi ken, i've had childhood and adult sightings, i know they exist too, but because of lack of evidence, i don't say too much on this board, as a child i didn't know what i was seeing, as a young adult it was a monster, as a reseacher, the few sightings i have had were split second sightings and a few uncastable tracks and impressions. i am just out there for myself, keeping a log, videos of areas and possible tree markers and tracks, and tapes of recordings that could or could not be. i would be interested in going on an outing in your area, pm me or email me with details.............

Ken,
I am in Linn County Oregon. I would be willing to meet with you to discuss setting something up.

Seriously fellows this could be a do-able thing.

I'm reticent about packing myself to an unfamiliar place where I know no one.

But if we had some kind of BFF outing in spring or sometime I'm sure many would be interested.



RF

Great idea, Ken!
I enjoyed reading the sighting report, too.
I stopped by the area on my way to the WA expedition last August but had little time for exploring as I drove the road to the mountain from Castle Rock. I know you were in a different area...

If this starts to pan out - that is, if you get a good group response - have a private area set up here in the BFF for the participants so you can exchange info about the trip.

I would love to do something, but I am a little stuck out here in the hinterlands of DC..

But this is an idea for all of us to think about. If you live near a hotspot, you could organize an "expedition". Make it cost free and those who couldn't afford the BFRO stuff can have their own experiences. And since it's all about luck, there isn't any telling who would get the better evidence.

Ken, several groups have done just what you are thinking of, setting up an outing through here...they have all been great successes, as far as I know! Maybe not everyone found squatch(but..some of us HAVE experienced "stuff" on the outings), but just getting together with like minded folks, is worth it!
Better yet, if you have an area in mind that has potential, just do it.

Ken, I've gone out into the North Bend/Mt Si area several times over the last year and have not come accross anything significant. I would like nothing more than to get a group together with someone like yourself who could stake out a few "hot-spots" of known activity. Would you be into doing this during the winter or wait it out until spring?

Why? Good question. Several reasons for me.
That's what my mom said. "Why don't you just leave them alone?"
A part of me kind of agrees.
But the other, dominating part is just plain fascinated by them. I saw one clearly and ever since, I have been consumed by the desire to see one again.
All this time, all this talk, all these accounts, such a mystery...and the one I saw damn near mooned me with his thumbs in his ears and his hands waving sticking his tongue out at me. Nyah, n-nyah, n-nayh yah.
Now I'm trying and trying and trying to see one again.
I used to wander the west camping in all kinds of remote locations and was starting to get my fill of that, when all this reinvigorated and redirected my wilderness wanderings. So another reason to spend time in remote and beautiful locations is justification enough for me.
This is a real mystery, a real adventure, a real last frontier. It can sometimes be one of the most exciting experiences yet possible.
I want to see them.
I want to attempt to establish some kind of relationship or communication. This is a lifetime pursuit at minimum, I know.
I want those new amazing pictures.
I want to say "See, see?" to some people.
I want to write that article...

If you do succeed in getting something going I would probably find the time to join. I dont need much of any excuse to get outdoors Particularly going to the PacNW.

Also I can offer the same thing here in Colorado. I know of several areas here that offers a good long history of sightings/vocs near Leadville even untill recently. I have one really good spot North of Leadville I wouldnt be afraid to share with a group. There is plenty of free camping places on public lands so paying fees is not any problem. These areas are only within an hour and a half or so West of Denver so its more central to the Eastern/Southern members of BFF.

I would be willing to drive up from Norcal if you can put something serious together. Just need lots of advance notice as I have 4 kids and have to plan things ahead of time.

If I can't bring in a body to end the disbelief, I will wait here.

Maybe I'm wrong on this, but I'd bet good money that a massive expedition of people stomping through the woods is going to send a Sasquatch moving far away in the opposite direction.

I'd like to see more very quiet and experienced hunters with night vision setting out fresh meat and working in teams of only two people.

Perhaps a party by the campfire will bring some inquisitive creature around. People have said it's happened. But too many people and that would tend to drive any elusive animal away I would think.

Just a thought. Most Indians used to say you were most likely to actually see one if you are alone. Though most of the time you only hear them.

Food and the occasional sexual urges are about all a Sasquatch seems to relate to as far as I can see. Other than that they want people to stay out of any area they are in.

Fresh deer kill or fish watched from a tree stand at night. That's what I'd like to see you try in an area where you feel Sasquatch may be active. But only if you are going to take a shot. Otherwise you're just another whacko who thinks he's seen a monster in the woods.

No body - no love I'm afraid. Film won't do. Tracks won't do. Even hair samples that science can't identify won't cut it. Only a foot or a head will prove anything. If that's what you are after.

So get to it and be very very quiet. Elmer Fudd style squatchin'.

*** Oh, and one thing about your excellent report regarding your sighting with Uncle Mac. I recall an older Indian man who said that when he saw the Patterson film he knew right away that she was leading those cowboys to look away from where her young must have been. He figured that there might be another adult around in the treeline somewhere.

Your story fits right in with what he had to say on the subject.

- Dfoot

Hot spots .....western slope of oly mountains bar none. bogacheil ,hoh river headlands. klalaloch to humptullips im sure im not the only one to have a daylight sighting recently.

Fucari

Love the Olypen, been to all those places you listed in May of this year. We even heard a distant vocalization around 2am while camping near Bogachiel. Sounded like the Payullap screams. Unless that was another researcher out there call blasting

If in washington, count me in

I would prefer 5 campsites and a main campsite for communication and logistics. With people in treestands around the campsites with night vision. Four person exploration teams with a 1 or 2 person logistic team at each camp.

I like the area around Mt. Adams and west to Mt. St. Helens.

I will find out exactly what campsites we should be at during the exercise.

Blasting calls from a boat will cover a greater area of the forest. The sound waves will carry further across the water. We might consider water based teams with night vison and electric motors to get close if they come to the water.

Two vocalization blasts a night and each should be several hours apart.

There should be a few roving SUV teams with listening devices, dashcams and video and still photography equipment, B-11, water, Coolers, evidence collection kits, medical supplies, food, gps, and everything else you can pack in there. That would be available to the ground teams. Each of the on foot grunt teams to explore surrounding points of interest need the supports teams.

A pre-approved set of standard operational procedures for each team to follow.

The roles of each person in the team should have a purpose.

One Vehicle per team

1st person Team leader, driver -evidence collection, Navagation, & Comm
2nd person Video cameraman
3rd person still photographer
4th person Security & Spotter (12 Guage shot gun & .454) licenced hunter

If you are in a wildlife protected area the Security person needs a tazser and two cans of bear pepper spray, and a night stick or baton. The team leader should be informed of any specific legal rules or laws you might encounter in the area(some places sasquatch is protected under the law in washington).

The Olympic mountians are protected and no weapons are allowed.

I know 2 people that are archeaologists and one is a expert in animal bones to be on hand to examine bone finds.

I am thinking next spring as the snow melts through summer every 2 or 3 weeks.

A organised camping schedual of some sort will come of this. Thanks for your interest.

we will be signing up teams soon.

thanks

ken Ken Yielding

IMHO, I would use as examples Jane Goodall (her method of aclimating to chimps) and the late Diane Fossey (her work with aclimating to mountain gorillas).

*One person, or as small a group as possible. I agree with Dfoot on large groups.

*Long time camping in an area with a great deal of activity.

*Let the animals get used to the researchers. They get to know that if they show themselves, they're not going to get shot at, or harassed. Let their curiousity get the better of them.

*Unfortunately, this type of work and the time it could take (years?) makes it a high cost expedition. And, one would have to have special arrangements with the appropriate agency/property owner. Also, the location would have to be kept secret to avoid every reporter and dweeb from bounding into the experiment zone in their SUV/helicopter/4-wheeler wanting to see Bigfoot like a papparrazzi stalking a celebrity.

(edited to correct bad grammer) :doh:

Ken,

Excellent idea. I'll sign up for this expedition. I'm in Vancouver BC so its just a short drive down for me.

I agree with with Dfoot & Devious Ape. There needs to be some clear thought on the best approach to take. I've always had some qualms about the BFRO expedition methodology. You've got several dozen people with associated campfires, SUV's, & cellphones. How is that going to be successful?

Now, if this is going to be a hunt to track down and kill a sasquatch, thats fine. But lets have no pretenses about it, and organize the kind of hunt that is likely to be successful.

Or, if we are going to sit by ourselves, in the woods and become one with the sasquatch, thats fine too. But again, we would need to create the proper environment that's likely to succeed.