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Saskwatcher
Who has an update on the Myakka Photos ?
Besides the P/G Film, I think this is the BEST photographic evidence around.
The Subject's Orang-like features; the open mouth and Facial changes (Surprise to Anger), THAT EYE SHINE !
MAN !

That creature, like Patty, looks like an ANIMAL to me.
If it's a hoax...,
It's a good one.
Desertyeti
It's an orangutan---either a live one or a model.
If it's a model, that explains the lower canines which seem to angel inward...in all apes, (and all mammals in fact) with large canines, the lower ones angel outward.
Actually, the "woman" who took the photos even described it as an orangutan.
Either way, the anonymity and lack of information on the site, people involved, etc. makes the whole thing seem like a hoax of some kind.
micahn
I guess I am one of the only ones to look at that and see fake all over it ? To me it looks like a fake plain and simple along with 99% of the other stuff your find online. What keeps me here as well as interested in the subject if that other 1% like patty that can not be easily said is fake.
Desertyeti
Roger that one Micahn. thumbup.gif
SkunkHunter
David Barkasy was involved. Its bunk. Nice picture of an Orang. Too bad in the second photo they didnt edit out the green stuff that was in front of its mouth in the first picture. Its still evident in the "standing" picture. Like its floating in air.
califb
oops
lewdogg21
What pic are we talking about?

Sorry I've been away and am trying to catch up.
jimf
Try here.
slinky chix
Well to me the pictures look fake. For one, the ape is what, 4 feet away from the person taking the picture. I can't imagine some old lady sneaking up on a 6' tall ape standing in 4' tall palmettos. I would be terrified to go looking in the palmettos at night for it. And the leaves just happen to obscure just enought to hide details. Looks more like a Pekinese dog than anything else. There are Orangs here in Tampa at a couple of Zoos and they look nothing like that really except for maybe passing facial similarities. For one they are dark brown with sparse orange hair. This thing looks like it is covered with even dark hair with white/grey highlights. Plus an Orang doesn't stand that tall, nor do they even walk like that (that I have seen). They usually scoot around on their feet and front knuckles like a crab.


Carlie

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lewdogg21
David b. is a notorious hoaxster.


Folks, it was me in that suit. I even have proof. The nasty hair of the suit gave my butt a rash. I have the doctors note too.



Mystery = over new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif
Tirademan
I'll say it again, show me a suit that looks like this (hands, teeth, hair color/length, eye shine), on a budget of someone who's NEVER stepped forward to take credit, and I'll agree it could be a suit. But I don't think that suit exists.

I think these are "real" photos. No one "knows" what a Sasquatch CAN look like, so the "it doesn't look like bigfoot" arguments are just opinions. That said, we have the photos and the letter. Examine them carefully.

Here are the photos animated together as best as I could match them up. Details like the leaves move from picture to picture...I think it may have been eating them. "She" also said it was 6-7 feet KNEELING, so she said it was dang big...the letter is very convincing as well.

But I know the anonymous nature will condemn any real conclusions.

tirademan
Fishbone35
Dear Lord please make it stop! :rolleyes:

I cannot believe this piece of BS can still manage to make the rounds. It's like a bad penny. It just keeps turning up.
Randy_Hutchings
QUOTE(Desertyeti @ Oct 19 2004, 01:36 PM)
It's an orangutan---either a live one or a model.
If it's a model, that explains the lower canines which seem to angel inward...in all apes, (and all mammals in fact) with large canines, the lower ones angel outward.
Actually, the "woman" who took the photos even described it as an orangutan.
Either way, the anonymity and lack of information on the site, people involved, etc. makes the whole thing seem like a hoax of some kind.

An orangutan suffering from gigantism?...
BenThere_2
The Longer you stay the grumpier you get biggrin.gif
Look at me! sad.gif
BenThere_2
Tirademan
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I think these are "real" photos.


Looks like you got one of the originals tyed into a photo taken at
Ripley's Museum that floated the internet for comparison of a hoax.

If you search BFF I bet there's a big ole thread ...Fish knows.
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Robert
micahn
Ohhh I see now what it is. It is Bigfoot with a cold. That cold is making it's nose run and it has a face full of sticky boogies. That palmetto is stuck to said boogies and that is what in both pictures the palm is stuck to the face in the same place. It is so clear now :-)
Oh yea and also because of said cold it nose is all stopped up and that is why it keeps it's mouth open so it can breath threw it.

Again these pictures are one of the biggest problems with Bigfoot stuff online. These pictures and others like them just helps in making us look like fools to others who can look at them and have a good laugh because they look so fake.

The Bigfoot community will never get the respect they should until they earn it. They will never earn it unless they call a fake a fake and stop saying well it could be something.
Unless it is something clear like the Patterson film it should be discounted by every one in the bigfoot community. When that starts happening just maybe others will starts taking this stuff more serious. They will stop saying look at these obvious fakes that these fools are saying is real or could be real. They will stop laughing at us every time one of us tells a none believer that we believe in Bigfoot.

The only think pictures like this does is hurt the Bigfoot community and I for one have no damn problem saying so. I just hope that some day more and more people will feel the same. I am glad that so many have replied to this post saying just what is seen in these pictures. It is just to bad every one can not see that but hey that is why we are all different.
Tirademan
QUOTE(micahn @ Oct 20 2004, 01:21 PM)
I am glad that so many have replied to this post saying just what is seen in these pictures. It is just to bad every one can not see that but hey that is why we are all different.

Exactly! Everyone sees something different in these photos. That is exactly it. Everyone has an opinion, but no person is "right." Dismissing photos because you THINK they are fakes is fine. But it doesn't make the photos fake. Backing your argument up with logic is something else entirely. All we have are the "alleged" photos and letter to examine.

No one has proven these to be a hoax, so I don't see how they could reflect negatively on the "bigfoot community." To me, the only fools are those like Bob H. who claim Sasquatch suits are easy to get, cheap to buy, and "Hollywood realistic," only to NEVER be able to produce them.

Again, can someone show me where I can buy this suit? I don't think so.

Also, that stuffed museum thing is orange, not to mention it can't move and it's in the wrong position. I'm not sure where the "sticky boogers" angle came from and, unless I'm missing something, these photos are much clearer than the Patterson film.

Like you said, we are all different. That is a good thing. I personally see no photographic evidence to indicate that these are fake...IMHO biggrin.gif

tirademan
Bitter Monk
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Exactly!  Everyone sees something different in these photos. That is exactly it.


Pretty much. Most of us see a hoax and you don't.

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Everyone has an opinion, but no person is "right."


Wrong. It either is or isn't real. One side is wrong and one side is right.

QUOTE
Dismissing photos because you THINK they are fakes is fine. But it doesn't make the photos fake.


No, but I don't see much saying they're real. Unless you count the little old lady that used the same camera to take pics of the car she recently sold, only driven on Sunday's to church of course.

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Backing your argument up with logic is something else entirely.


And your logic would be? Let me guess..."Show me a suit that looks this good." new_sleepysmileyanim.gif It doesn't have to be a suit. This are still photos. It could be anything.

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All we have are the "alleged" photos and letter to examine.


Which really makes me wonder how you can so strongly support them. Two photos and an anonymous letter. That's all you've got.

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Again, can someone show me where I can buy this suit?  I don't think so. 


I swear to God if you don't stop beating this dead horse I'm going to call PETA. Can you not get it through your head that these are still photos, and therefore don't have to show a 3D object, just an object that appears to be 3D. Besides, I don't see anything that is that amazingly detailed. The last time you drug this up I clearly linked to numerous shops making hands, masks, and the like that were equally detailed. If memory serves you didn't have much of a response to that.

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I'm not sure where the "sticky boogers" angle came from


Your sarcasm detector is obviously malfunctioning, much in the same way your BS meter is if you buy these photos.

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Like you said, we are all different. That is a good thing. I personally see no photographic evidence to indicate that these are fake...IMHO


I can only assume this is so because you've managed to turn a deaf ear to the evidence presented by myself and others.

*Patiently awaits for the obligatory and oh so old "show me the suit" reply dry.gif *
califb
I can't go by what something looks like to the naked eye.. I have to go by what it breaks down to when looked at under benign and impartial circumstances. Below are the pics, completely unaltered in any way except for being lightened, broken down into their original layers (if any) and enhanced using the contrast and emboss tools (relief map). You can not only clearly see it was fabricated using several separate layers of images, you can see that the original image, the one at the back, was a person wearing sunglasses playing what looks like a harmonica (which explains why the fabricator had to place the fake palm frond over the mouth). You can clearly see the frame of the sunglasses and his afro hair style. I'm disappointed, I really assumed they were real.. Below that is the one showing how the main body of the "creature" is hand drawn. Geeze, just goes to show ya... sigh.
califb
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califb
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Bitter Monk
QUOTE(califb @ Oct 20 2004, 03:14 PM)
You can clearly see the frame of the sunglasses and his afro hair style.

[Tirademan]"Show me a person that looks like that, you can't!"[/Tirademan] laugh.gif

Interesting and sobernig work there cal. thumbup.gif
lewdogg21
Er, I can't see the harmonica/hair. Help! icon_bang.gif
The QuatchWatcher
Those "eyes" sure are glowing.... new_whistle.gif new_weirdsmiley.gif
jimf
QUOTE(The QuatchWatcher @ Oct 20 2004, 05:24 PM)
Those "eyes" sure are glowing.... new_whistle.gif new_weirdsmiley.gif

" 'Cause its a thriller...Thriller night..." Opps sorry wrong monster.
Bitter Monk
QUOTE(jimf @ Oct 20 2004, 04:34 PM)
QUOTE(The QuatchWatcher @ Oct 20 2004, 05:24 PM)
Those "eyes" sure are glowing....  new_whistle.gif new_weirdsmiley.gif

" 'Cause its a thriller...Thriller night..." Opps sorry wrong monster.

*dead* laugh.gif
Saskwatcher
Soooo.......
How were these photos
faked ?
1. Guy in a suit ?
2. Real Orangutan ?
3. Computer trickery ?
4. "Statue" or model ?

What's the verdict ?

I had never noticed the vegetation "stuck" to it before.
That DOES look fishy !
Thanks for the "heads-up" on that....!
califb
QUOTE(lewdogg21 @ Oct 20 2004, 02:27 PM)
Er, I can't see the harmonica/hair. Help! icon_bang.gif

Unfortunately the images I have were very high resolution and much clearer then the ones I posted.. but look at it as if the bright white eyes were not there.. look "behind" the drawn on additions. (Also the person has a mustache) the real eyes are just above and to the right of the fake ones. You can see the upper rims of the glasses and even his real eyes. Here.. maybe this crude attempt at outlining will help...
mike2k1
QUOTE(califb @ Oct 20 2004, 06:32 PM)
QUOTE(lewdogg21 @ Oct 20 2004, 02:27 PM)
Er, I can't see the harmonica/hair.  Help! icon_bang.gif

Unfortunately the images I have were very high resolution and much clearer then the ones I posted.. but look at it as if the bright white eyes were not there.. look "behind" the drawn on additions. (Also the person has a mustache) the real eyes are just above and to the right of the fake ones. You can see the upper rims of the glasses and even his real eyes. Here.. maybe this crude attempt at outlining will help...

now that I look at it, it does kinda remind me of Jerry Garcia.
califb
QUOTE(mike2k1 @ Oct 20 2004, 07:33 PM)
QUOTE(califb @ Oct 20 2004, 06:32 PM)
QUOTE(lewdogg21 @ Oct 20 2004, 02:27 PM)
Er, I can't see the harmonica/hair.  Help! icon_bang.gif

Unfortunately the images I have were very high resolution and much clearer then the ones I posted.. but look at it as if the bright white eyes were not there.. look "behind" the drawn on additions. (Also the person has a mustache) the real eyes are just above and to the right of the fake ones. You can see the upper rims of the glasses and even his real eyes. Here.. maybe this crude attempt at outlining will help...

now that I look at it, it does kinda remind me of Jerry Garcia.

Did Jerry ever play the harmonica? lololol.. Maybe it isn't a harmonica, maybe it's a microphone in front of his mouth? The two images are so close it's uncanny... You have a good eye. Have you ever considered going into photographic image fraud analysis?
mike2k1
QUOTE(califb @ Oct 20 2004, 10:30 PM)
QUOTE(mike2k1 @ Oct 20 2004, 07:33 PM)
QUOTE(califb @ Oct 20 2004, 06:32 PM)
QUOTE(lewdogg21 @ Oct 20 2004, 02:27 PM)
Er, I can't see the harmonica/hair.  Help! icon_bang.gif

Unfortunately the images I have were very high resolution and much clearer then the ones I posted.. but look at it as if the bright white eyes were not there.. look "behind" the drawn on additions. (Also the person has a mustache) the real eyes are just above and to the right of the fake ones. You can see the upper rims of the glasses and even his real eyes. Here.. maybe this crude attempt at outlining will help...

now that I look at it, it does kinda remind me of Jerry Garcia.

Did Jerry ever play the harmonica? lololol.. Maybe it isn't a harmonica, maybe it's a microphone in front of his mouth? The two images are so close it's uncanny... You have a good eye. Have you ever considered going into photographic image fraud analysis?

Thanks, but no,never considered that. I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express though. wink.gif
slinky chix
The last "embossed" picture is so clear... its john lennon!

Car
Welby
"Imagine" that...hmmmm.
StacyInMI
See, to me it looks more like Whoopi Goldberg. wink.gif
robbcat
could this photo have been taken by a trail camera? from a hunter or outdoorsman?
Fishbone35
QUOTE(robbcat @ Oct 21 2004, 03:33 PM)
could this photo have been taken by a trail camera? from a hunter or outdoorsman?

No.

Try these on for size:

http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?showtopic=128

http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?showtopic=2927

http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?showtopic=944

http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?showtopic=275

And for all the newbies, remember, the search function is your friend.

BTW, I'm locking this one down because, as you can see, there are plenty enough Myakka BS threads to go around. wink.gif
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