:bump: One of the best threads here on the BFF! Also relevant to alot of discusion lately.















Edit because I have been typing in syllable whispers all day today.

Excellent thread , and a little scary at times. Some of the sounds and stories makes your hair stand up....

There was a controlled burn in this area last year, and I haven't been back since. My life is hyper-busy right now (work, taking a few classes, bought a new home, family, etc...), but I am hoping to get back up there around the holidays. All of the activity seems to be during the Oct.-Nov. period. Glad you enjoyed the thread. I am determined to get to the bottom of those sounds, and whatever made them.
BSF

I'm glad you chimed in BSF. I was wondering if you had been back in the area.

Hello, all. I'm new to the forum & find this thread very intriguing. No one mentioned it here, but I have read reports of Sas-chatter which described the vocals as sounding like recorded human speech played backward. If I may dare to explore the unpopular theory of "supernatural" aspects of this creature; backward-speaking has traditionally been associated with demonics. At this point all the serious scientists are likely asking who let this nut in... but without completely discounting the Ohio Talker recorder's "angelic" vision, I believe it's pertinent to at least consider. Would I be correct to assume this and other "talker" recordings have been played in reverse to eliminate that theory?

I dont quite understand what your saying.. Are you wondering if we have played recordings backwards to see if Bigfoot is a demon? Am I reading that right?

Just curious

Have you played these recordings backwards?

Playing any of the recordings backwards is going to sound like howls and whoops played backwards...

Hi, BSF. Hope you've been well.

The encounters below are within 2 miles of the area of your report.

http://www.texasbigfoot.com/Montgomery9.html

http://www.texasbigfoot.com/Walker4.html

Also, three of our guys heard sounds meeting your descriptions during Operation Primate Lure last year in a spot less than a mile south of where you were.

It's an interesting area.

Melissa, I meant that since reverse speaking supposedly happens with "possessed" folks, descriptions of sasquatch backward-sounding speech [along with other rare & controversial claims of telepathy & vanishing] calls to mind Ron Morehead's speculation of Bigfoot being descendents of the human/fallen-angel hybrids from the Old Testament. (Sorry, didn't mean to talk "religion") My question was have recordings of sasquatch mumblings been played in reverse to listen for possible language?

That's an interesting idea WS. I would like to hear the results...I wouldn't expect too much from it, but I don't think we should shoot it down until it is tried.

No problem, I knew what you ment.

I just havent listened to recordings backwards. Sorry, Cant say I ever listened to any music etc. backwards. Not sure what I would be listening for.

Ozzy Osbourne speaking in words you can understand ?

I heard an interview with Ozzy several years ago where some one asked about backwards messages in his albums. He replied something to this effect:

"I heard my albums are suppose to have backward messages in them so I decided to play one backwards one day......all I heard was Blah! Blah blah blah blah blah, Gibberish!!!"

yeah - I couldnt understand what he said in forward -- why would I want to take my chances on reverse?

Oh well, my loss I guess.

Many years ago I listened to a taped documentary-style lecture a friend's dad had about subliminal "backward-masked" satanic messages in recorded Rock music. I had always scoffed at this claim, firmly believing zealous anti-rock crusaders had overactive imaginations & too much time on their hands. I anticipated being amused by the absurd stretches I expected to be made by the author straining to verify a ludicrous theory. After listening to the tape & hearing many examples... well, I still can't swallow the implication of widespread covert satanic propoganda from 80% of the recording industry during the 1970s... but, damn...!

Another :bump: And this class B encounter from Maryland would interest you, BSF.

Bow Hunter hears "gibberish"

I recall that bowhunter's report from this past September. When a Sas chases a man from an area with aggressive-toned jibberish, the logical conclusion is mimicry from hearing land owners threatening trespassers to leave their property. But when such chatter is heard exchanged between the creatures themselves, the question of language asserts itself.

I am a newcomer to this forum, but have recently become very interested in this thread. I am a speech pathologist and was introduced to the "ohio talker" recording by my husband, an avid bigfoot enthusiast. First of all, LaMonica, the guy who recorded the "ohio talker" now has the recording backward on his website, just to prove that it is not speech backward. I listened to the recording to try and decifer specific speech sounds characteristic to human speech. I did not use any sophisticated equipment, just my trained ear. I have been a speech pathologist for 18 years, and I find that I hear things in others speech that most do not. What I heard and my conclusions are very interesting, although not scientifically based.

My interest in the recording was to listen for specific speech sounds and patterns specific to humans. I am not an expert in primate physiology, but from my understanding they possess the same vocal mechanisms as humans. This is what I heard: Vowel sounds including short /i/, short and long /e/ and short /u/. Consonant sounds /b/, /m/, /d/, /t/, /n/and /p/. I did not hear and sibilant sounds (ones using airflow) such as /s/, /f/ or /sh/. I also did not hear /r/ or /l/ or any blends of speech sounds such as /bl/ or /pr/. Developmentally, the sounds I was able to distinguish are early developing sounds for humans, the others which require more complex articulation develop later. Although primates have the same structures as we do for speech, tongue, teeth, lips, vocal cords, etc. I am not sure that they would be capable of the complex motor movements required to produce the same sounds that humans do. Therefore, I find it likely that if they do speak, their speech would be limited to these early sounds. All of what I heard were sounds that are part of human speech. The only other observation I can offer is that the prosody (intonation pattern)of the utterance was very unusual.

I'm still convinced the Ohio Talker is a recording of Somniloquy (Sleep Talking).

His story goes that he drove for hours to this spot and was dead tired. He was anxious for his friend to get there but set out the recorders and went to sleep in the back of the truck.

This would be the perfect scenario for sleep walking/ sleep talking, and he would have no memory of the episode.

One reason I'm confident of this is I had a camping buddy who sleep talked and sounded exactly like the Ohio Talker recording, gibberish but semi-human sounding.

Thanks for sharing your info. dimiles. I have always wondered if the whistles I have heard were not really whistles at all, but rather vocalizations from the throat....if indeed these noises were produced by a BF. What you have noticed in the recordings you have listened to tends to indicate that may be the case.

FNW, you're saying the Ohio Talker guy recorded his own sleep-talk? That would be too ironic! If this were the case then that tribal elder who identified it as a possible ancient dialect saying "We are watched/watching" must also be a victim of overactive imagination, and I have some difficulty dismissing that entire event and it's interpretation as such.

I would like to know if anybody has ever heard them mocking other animals.
Last night, I went out to get some firewood just before going to bed, & as usual, I stopped to listen for BF. There was a dog barking about 1/4 mile away, & there was another noise that sounded a little like somebody trying to imitate the barking. It was obviously not another dog. It went on for about 5 minutes, then stopped abruptly.
Just as I was drifting off to sleep, I was jarred awake by the "classic BF howl". Not sure that I wasn't dreaming, I opened the window to see if I could hear it again. I didn't hear another howl, but I did hear something like this mumble. There were two short "sentences", very low pitched & hushed. It reminded me of the sounds that a baby makes when it starts trying to make sentences, but can't pronounce words. It didn't sound anything like the Ohio talker, but it definitely wasn't English.

Mumblings are typical with wild-man encounters in the Big Thicket. Also what sounds like a generator or diesel engine in the distance. The only exception is that the sound does not move. It sounds like people talking clearly, but no words can be understood. This happened to me in the Rosier unit. In the morning I found Reptiod prints everywhere around the woodline from the road. I havent camped out there since. I told a guide a slept out there and she thought I was insane for doin it. The Alabama-Coushatta Indians believe these woods are haunted for these reasons. They only hunted there with large parties and only when is was extremly necassery to do so.

I have been reading the BFF for about the last month on a regular basis. Just sittin back and soakin it all in. And I have to say this is the best thread I have read so far :nicethread:

At some point I will get more involved but until then :popcorn2:

:new_thumbsupsmileyanim: :new_thumbsupsmileyanim: :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:

I think most of us believe that anything is possible, maybe unwittingly. Why else would we be here discussing a creature not proven to exist?

Reptoid prints? Where was this?

Dogfoot- In the bottomlands of The Big thicket federal preserve, southeast texas near the Louisiana state-line. Its the only place other than the everglades in the United States that can be scientifcally classified as a "Jungle".

Stinkyman:
I think he was asking if you would care to explain the 'reptoid' comment.
BSF

Have you ever heard about people that thought they heard voices, and could not tell where they came from, only to discover that a babbling brook, or an underground stream was making the almost speech like sounds.
Not saying that this is what is happening in every case, but will give you another option to elimanate when you are investigating.
L

No babbing brooks where this encounter happened
just sandy creeks. The only ways you could here water
running in these creeks is during a Major flood.

Even though an old thread, gotta think old Rabid Monkey is describing some of the sounds I recorded and placed as bipedalist at (thanks to Stan):
http://www.stancourtney.com/wordpress/guest-sounds/
WNC #1 and #2, maybe there IS something to it?