Does anyone know what the docs doing these days? You'll remember he had the sighting while on a trail walk with his family. He then started a website, etc., etc. Did anyone ever meet him or have a feel for what really happened? I found the doctor to be quite believable although of course that dosen't mean anything... :rolleyes:

t.

He did a radio interview a couple weeks ago on ArtistFirst.com. He's in the field of 'better parenting'. Dr. Mattew Johnson

He did get emotional when recounting his bigfoot encounter. He sounds like a trustworthy guy. Interesting, he has a dog named bigfoot.

BB

I e-mailed him and he was very cordial, I also asked him if anything new came up to let me know...we'll see...I don't think Bigfoot has to be a "I can't grab a glob of mercury" kinda of thing, lets hope it changes.

If I recall correctly, he was sto frightened by the stalking behaviour that he had to take a crap in the woods. :pinch: That's when he actually saw the creature

Actually I thought what happened was he when to answer the call of the wild and then was stalked and spotted the thing. Oh, well I will check out his report with the BFRO later and get back with you.

Maheekat, you should e-mail him again and invite him to join BFF.

Medic45, I'm familiar with the sighting. Thanks though.

t

I remember there was something about the story that he mentioned caused the "fight or flight" syndrome to kick in, that's why he had to answer nature's call. He was hearing noises like hoots or calls that were following them along the trail. Then, when he left the trail to go above to answer nature's call, he saw what he says was the creature across the trail on the other side watching his family, who were waiting for him. That freaked him out and he quickly hurried them down the trail afterwards and finally broke down when they reached the ranger station. Freaky experience!

We are going right by the Oregon Caves on the way back from our trip in a few weeks. If time permits, I want to stop in there. Not sure which trail they took, I know it was one of the lesser used ones way in the back. Besides, after all the hoop-la that's occurred there since (people coming to check out the site for themselves) I'm sure the sas's are long gone.

I used to post at his site a long time ago, but that was before I was led to this place!

what is his site's address? Do you know?

His site address used to be here but it no longer works. He's also a member of the Southern Oregon Bigfoot Society and they used to have bi-weekly or monthly meetings at a restaurant in Grant's Pass, I think.

I e-mailed him keep your fingers crossed...

I found this site..

http://www.sobsresearch.org/

??

could be him right ??

Maheekat:
Any word back from the good doctor yet?

No word yet......

I know his sighting made national news back in 2000. I think the media saw him as very credible, as do I.

I have at least three different segments of his sighting on VHS, if not four.

I recall he said the animal was *taller than an basketball player, and more buff than an football player*...

Yes, he does get choked up, every time he comes to the part of seeing it staring from behind a tree.

Yep that's him. Or at least that's the website for organization that he founded. I don't see him mentioned on there anymore, however, so I wonder if he has decided to move on to other things? Hmmmm. I see the link to his website is broken.

Thanks to whoever made the correction from "Johnston" to "Johnson" in the title of this thread.... that was driving me nuts!

I'm going strictly from memory... I think he said he when to the "call of nature" and he observed the creature OBSERVING HIS FAMILY. That's when he freaked & hustled them out of there. He only mentioned it to his wife when the kids weren't in earshot. I could be wrong--I'd have to go thru my "bigfoot paper trail", which is currently in massive disarray...

But this could be a great thread! I would be fun to examine what we remember about what we read about the sighting, as opposed to what the report actually said. Then check it out... I read it several times, printed it out, but didnt bookmark it, so I can't remember where I read it.

What do you think?

Thought I would refresh this thread. It appears that Dr. J. dropped out of the ongoing discussions and investigations a few years back. The group that organized around his sighting - the Southern Oregon Bigfoot Society (SOBS)- conducted expeditions into the Oregon Caves area where Dr. J had his original sighting. Dr. J participated in some of these early expeditions. There were reports of BF hitting bait piles and reports of after dark sightings. then Dr. J withdrew from the expeditions. Their website at that time did publish expedition reports. After Dr J. withdrew there was a final expedition report that was talking about several events that bordered on the paranormal. I know Dr. J was very F&B. After that last report nothing more was posted. Google searches lead to old information, if any at all, and the SOBS website now directs a person to borderline porn.

Is this where it ends ? can anyone add to this ?

I used to love this story. :popcorn2:

The last I'd heard was that he was participating very little with the Southern Oregon Bigfoot Society, and had gone from a regular figure at the meetings and outings to rarely seen. I checked online and came up with a new mental health program he's developed and apparently is spending a lot of time traveling across the US giving public speeches. However it seems that site hasn't been updated since 2004, at least according to the Copyright notice at the bottom of the page. If you go to the Yellow Pages and look up his name it gives a link to his site, which is http://www.sasquatchsite.com however if you try to go there, you get a page saying it's under construction by directNIC. I did a whois and found the site was registered on July 21, 2000 and set to expire July 21, 2007. Going through a registration site, it looks like a web company in Louisiana owns it, could be he had them host his site, but also looks like they are accepting bids for it, so most likely is not being used anymore.

Family Rules Program

Being new to here I was wondering if someone could tell me where I might find this particular report.

http://www.skookumquest.com/sasquatch/skoo...ers_johnson.htm

Dr. Johnson was vehemently against any suggestion that bigfoot is other than a big animal and also strongly believed BF is inferior to humans. An avid F & B proponent.
Funny that the last reports from SOBS hinted at paranormal events on their most recent expedition. After that all of their websites just shrivelled up and went dead.
We had reports that they were getting really close to having outstanding evidence and then poof they all just disappear. It would probably take a trip to Grant's Pass and find some of the people to determine what the hell has happened.

I really wish Dr. Johnson had stayed more active in the field. He was a great ambassador for bigfoot IMO.

The old "Southern Oregon Bigfoot Society" is now permanently gone, replaced by the "SASQUATCH MYSTERY CENTER", still based in Grants Pass, in southern Oregon. Featured photos and info are from 2002-2006 (mostly "track" photos and a game-cam blobsquatch). To the best of my knowledge, Dr. Johnson and his family no longer reside in the Grants Pass area. As I seem to recall, there was a sign on the door or in a window of his practice basically stating it was for "personal/family" reasons he was closing down. In any case, it is extremely gratifying to note he apparently was quite adverse to any overt BF connection with the paranormal. For a while I was lamenting he'd gone over to the dark side of he-who-shall-not-be-named :icon_bang: .

BTW,...myself and my family live just outside of G.P., on the "World Famous" Rogue River.

Last time I was up at Oregon Caves (about a year ago), I asked one of the rangers which trail Johnson had the sighting on. Its a loop trail that goes up the mountain behind the visotor's center, I think about a mile up. I walked up there just out of curiosity, beautiful terrain. The ranger that I asked was very matter of fact and knew exactly where the alleged sighting was. You could always ask them if you're up that way...

The one thing that always bothered me about this sighting, is that had it been a underpaid overworked commoner, it would have been brushed off and the media labeling the guy a kook.

But here's a highly regarded Doctor and he gets national tv coverage. Just how well known do you have to be to be taken seriously? What makes his sighting any better than from anyone from your average neighborhood?

If the report is credible enough, then they should look at them all the same way, not just the ones who have money and a pilliar of the community

People quite often find reports submitted by those with the credentials of Dr. Johnson more credible for a variety of reasons.

Dr. J. risked losing his practice and career that could be worth millions over time.
Bubba risks losing his minimum wage job as a bagger at Mr. Quigger's corner market.

Dr. J. has a proven track record of intelligence having completed college and beyond.
Bubba dropped out at 16 to make money, and still spells bagger with only one g.

Dr. J.'s career is based on a scientific field.
Bubba's only experience with science is he owns the complete Mr. Wizard series on DVD.

Dr. J. is/was a health concious person and a college athlete.
Bubba has been seen more than once face down in a gutter with the stench of stale beer on him.

Dr. J. has to assess the ridicule his wife and children will have to go though because of his claims.
Bubba has to assess the ridicule his Siamese Fighting Fish and his Mexican Hairless will have to go through, but doesn't worry because they don't speak English anyway.

It's the same reasons why people find statements by Dr. Jeff Meldrum more credible than by you or I. Or in the field of studying UFO's why more people listened to the likes of Dr. J. Allen Hynek than Bubba as well.

While I agree with your point Moeregon, that doesn't necessarily make it right or fair. Which I believe was Wolfman's point of view. . .of course no one said life was supposed to be fair, quite the opposite.

That's exactly what I was saying. Hey, maybe we could get VP Dick Cheney to got out looking, seeing how well he shoots with a gun. :new_lmaosmiley:

My exwife and I hiked into Oregon Caves in 1975 from the Applegate River and camped one night. I'm glad that I wasn't into BF at the time. This area is prime habitat for BF and connects along mountain ridges south to the Klamath River where the Kurok Indian live. Then go west to Bluff Creek area where the Patterson Video was filmed. BFs probably know this area well.



Well you have a point, but their friends in high places can turn against them and ruin a career too. It seems, there is always someone higher up who can knock the lower guy off the ladder. Either keep a BF sighting quiet or hold on and proclaim the sighting. Personally, I'm the quiet type.

I hope this is not why he left Grants Pass.

I agree that it's not "Right" simply explaining why people look at it that way. Most people don't take the time to look at the full picture and take people at face value of outward appearances. Otherwise why would so many nearly "Idolize" some of those we have come to question ourselves of whether or not they're sane in the world of bigfoot research. I won't mention any specific names but I'm sure there's a few names we call all fill in the blank with...

I think ____________ is a goofball and has no idea what he/she is talking about.

I met Dr. Johnson last September. A friend of mine asked him to speak about his sighting at the Bigfoot Jamboree here in Happy Camp. We're about 30 miles south of where he had his sighting.

He and his wife are friendly and easy to talk to. He gave a power point presentation and gave away copies of his book about parenting. I got most of what he said about his sighting on video with my little digital camera.

Here's a photo I took of him answering questions:

Please do not use my photo elsewhere without permission.

As of last September, the Johnsons still lived in Grants Pass. He was doing a lot of traveling to promote his book. He may be speaking at our Bigfoot Jamboree again this year. If he does, I'll be happy to let you know.

Linda
My Bigfoot Research

:laugh:



I've seen him being interviewed (TV) and he seemed sincere to me also. As Moregon said, he had a lot to lose by going public with his sighting. I for one cannot see myself telling anyone other than family and a few friends, if I had a sighting. Then again, Im a fairly private person.

To go public, one must be tough or be financially independant sp since this admission cause clients to drop off.

Did the Dr. Johnson leave Grants Pass?

The Oregon Caves area has hiking trails and is a great spot to look for BFs. There are probably other caves in the area where BF lives!

Hi Linda,
Thanks for the update on Dr. J, I wondered what had become of him!

Thanks from me too Linda! I'd forgotten about starting this thread. :biggrin:
All the best!

t.

I know of at least one instance where Dr. Johnston spoke of his experience and another "researcher" in the crowd was heckeling him and even accused him of lying about his experience.

I also remember that Dr. Johnston was flabergasted at the "environment" withing the BF community.

I wouldn't doubt that a good Dr. of psychology would quickly determine that for the most part the BF people are best avoided.

I'm glad that he has so far at least been willing to share his experience at conferences when invited.

Being a new member I get to dredge this up AGAIN!! Hee, hee!!!

The Southern Oregon BFRO Exped was in this area. I was surprised to learn that Dr. Matt's encounter was now very controversial. Bobo Freitas is now skeptical of his report. He thinks nothing happened. I myself am not so sure. There are elements to it consistent to other sightings I have investigated. Needless to say this sighting is still widely talked about in Southern Oregon. Part of the reason was this was a report from a Doctor for crying out loud and not your "normal Redneck Hillbilly". The Media had to approach it differently, and we in the Bigfoot Community finally had a sighting that was treated half way seriously.

My first question is "F&B" I don't know what that means? Two people said the Dr. was F&B.

Also with his sighting, I don't know why he would make this one up. Think of the stakes there. It was a good post about Bubba and the Dr. But if Bubba is also found to be lying what would he lose.
But if the Dr. was found to be lying, I think that could even hurt his rep more than the sighting.

Hey Redrat....errrr....Tim.....errrrrr "Normal Redneck Hillbilly"

I am new to the Bigfoot Forums to be sure. Heck I just found out this existed this weekend at the Southern Oregon BFRO Exped. I have been doing my own Bigfoot investigation since 2004, so I guess it is safe to say I have been in the Bigfoot Community for a while now. I will hit that new member thread........if I find it that is!

Well, if you want to cry out loud... a redneck can be a doctor, and a doctor can be a redneck... one does not make the other any better, or more/less believable. Maybe you should not make such assumptions.

Raised in the great Rogue Valley... yes, I was.

As for this sighting.. I find it curious that a BF would come so close to a trail that is obviously traversed by many.

Hey oregonfooter, I am not making any personal assumptions here, just stating a common stereotype of those of us who do believe in BF's being real

The Rogue Valley is awesome. Still call it home!

John "Bobo" Freitas investigated this report and he now believes it to be a fraud. I am not so sure. I have learned that since Dr. Johnson's sighting there have been at least three more sightings on the Big Tree Trail.

I'm a "redneck hillbilly" and it don't take a rocket scientist or "doctor" to know there aint no "Bobo" Freitas. It's either John Freitas who is known as the Godfather of Callblasting or James "Bobo" Fay two completely separate individuals, though they are friends.

... and you think we're dumb?



FROM THE DEEP WOODS OF SW ARKANSAS.

As opposed to an "abnormal Redneck Hillbilly"? Guess I could be considered either actually.





I kept thinking, "when did John and Monica adopt Bobo?"!

Pass the PBR J! I with ya.

Your abnormally normal redneck buddy from Left of the Ocmulgee, Ga..

Mike2k1

Thanks Teresa. Can you just imagine the look on John's face when someone calls him Bobo?


Now is anyone else here thinking....Greg....from Southern Oregon??....hmmmmmm

GUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHH!!!!

My Bad! My Bad!

Did you ever have one of those moments when you went completely brain dead? That would be me right there. Ok, to set the record straight....it was JAMES BOBO FAY who investigated the Johnson sighting up at the Oregon Caves. I did not mean to conjugate the two into one. (Now there is a humorous visual in a way though!!). I apologise to all I may have offended.......Lesson learned here...don't post while being Brain Dead!

Looking back in this thread I did it TWICE!!! Great start....................sheeeeeesh!

Hey Foggy, I've got a vacation home out in Selma.

psssst.... Jay.. that's Montra... not Monica. Shhh... we won't tell Montra you called her Monica.