Just curious if anyone else has seen this and what your thougths are on this. It is reported that it was filmed behind a building in portage county in North Eastern Ohio.

http://home.earthlink.net/~bigfootcountry/id13.html

I was sent this link from a guy named Mike who asked me to check out his site.

My opinion? Inconclusive. Too dark and too quick to see what it is. I wrote him back and told him that I felt it was inconclusive.

What are your thoughts???

I see nothing but headlights.....

according to the website, those lights are the back of the building and there is a shadowy figure that walks from left to right very quickly. It could be anything. I just wondered what everyones thoughts were.

I saw it... and dammit can someone please get some clear shots of this crazy bastid!!???!?

I went to click on the audio link for the site and it was down. The description of the audio link says that there was a train in the background. I have a wav recorded in Puyallup, Washington with a train in the background. If you can get the wav file that this guy says he has, please do so and send it to me.

I agree with you - it could be anything.

Sujen

I'd have to agree with both of you. While it does look somewhat like a humanoid shape moving past, it really does go by too quickly to even be very confident of that.

While I was surfing the site you just referenced, I came across this photo, and while it is an obvious hoax, I found it hilarious.




photo from http://home.earthlink.net/~bigfootcountry/id2.html

Sujen,

That's from the Prince Edward Island video.

Oh! Thanks, Fish. I don't know anything about that video. I'm assuming it wasn't taken very seriously, or I would have seen alot of discussion about it here!

Sujen

It does, however, demonstrate the "on all fours" manner of fleeing that is noted in a few sighting reports.

Later, the same subject was seen getting up onto only two legs and continuing to flee.

I've always wondered about this one!


The QW

The arms are long but it has a human like neck. Too hard to tell because it is so brief. The anonymous filmer is always fun :rolleyes: With no other corroberating evidence what can ya do.

Looks like the clips have been removed.....

You might want to check again.

I just checked it and it worked for me.

The audio clip I am referring to in my first post on this thread is the Portage Bigfoot scream link to the right and below the link for the footage. It's a broken link. I would very much like to hear the clip that was supposed to be there.

Lights. That's it!?
Probably the worst bigfoot film claim I have ever seen.
Geez.You'd think I'd learn not to look at these things anymore.Just can't help myself though.

This new film is a hoax plain and simple. How nice of them to zoom in and out on the light before the thing runs across in front of the light. Oh they just happened to be filming back there when it ran across ? I know I am not the brightest person in the world but to me this new film is a clear fake.
Like the other ones talked about on there. The guy is running and looking behind him like something is chasing him. Then it runs out from the other side and even runs away like it was in front of him the whole time. Why was he looking behind him in the wrong way ?

I know..these things are like a gal with great legs in a mini-skirt......ya know you shouldn't stare...but..

Heck! I can barely make out the lights! There are two of them aren't there?

Supposedly a group of friends were making a movie. This footage was captured during a take where the human subject was running away from his ‘off-screen fictitious pursuers’.

They were supposed to be following him from the left hand side of the screen; that is why he looks that direction.

Allegedly he - as well as the crew – did NOT know about the creature that emerged from the right hand side of the screen.

Who knows, but that is the story I got…

One Of These Days,
The QuatchWatcher

I think he was wearing a base ball cap.

The link worked, but AOhell wouldn't connect. Doesn't sound like it's one to fret over though.

To give this a reality check, for a minute, filming in the dark against lights is not something you really want to do to come out with the best image. It could be that he could see the shadowy figure with the naked eye, and was following it as best as he could with the camera. Cameras do not have the sensitivity to varying light coinditions that our eyes do.

I agree that it is probably a hoax though.

Its some guy.....its not inconclusive it looks very staged...its very thin ,with narrow shoulders and what looks like cloth that moves near the stomach area..as it moves forward..the (what looks to me) to be clothing moves with it.
If you want to go so far to base what is visible of it, as in comparrison to "patty" ..no pronounced buttocks,,and the leg as it moves appears to straighten all of the way out.
The story alone really makes me wonder... Not that I'm any sort of video guru by any means so could one of you guys who is answer me this ? If the building is 300 yrds away as claimed woiuldnt the lights diffuse more along both the ground and the general area ?
Also without knowing the person involved or the exact area it happened ,it also does the local invesitgators there no good whatsoever.
The alleged sighting alone is so sketchy that I'd discount anything following it entirely...jmo.

I give you the animated .....

Michan ;while I dont argue thatit may be a hoax,the story said he has seen bigfoot several times behind his place of employment. he was staking it out to catch it for a few days. I may be wrong but that is my interpretation from the description of the film from the site.It Is true that this may be anything and any website should have done onsite investigations to include daylight filming of the area for comparison,but we should inquier as to if this will be done in the future.Iadd this last part for discussion.I looked at the video and stills I took from it and the torso looks long enough and the arms are long with elbows near the waist.Anyone agree?I do wish this particular web site would have done their homework with witness testimony and video for comparison.

Just say no.



(although it does resemble one of those creatures in the movie "Signs")

That video would do wonders over at M. Greens site, considering they would pick out the other 2 BF that everyone here on the BFF missed.

God Bless & Pray that Janice doesn't lose the farm.

It plays on my screen much clearer than the clip above that Bitter Monk posted... it's built like a guy, it moves like a guy, it has a teeny little head like a guy, and the arms, rather than looking long, just look like he's carrying something in both hands to make them look longer, but instead they look longer AND bulkier, almost like he's wearing a baseball glove on each hand. It's either seriously mistaken identity, or an outright hoax.

I'm as as skeptical as anyone else about things sasquatch related , granted this is better than a blobsquatch, but that said, just a question, how come people so techincally scrutinize it compared to patty? Of course patty would be the mold to have a general idea to go from, but aren't there going to be differences in what such apes might possibly look like? Wouldn't a skunk ape profile look different than patty's? Or a junvenile or early adult's look different maybe? Eldery? Ect?
I mean there's nothing concrete to go on to observe something like so and say this is to short or that's to small, ect. it seems.
Again, not defending the authenticity of the film, just questioning the "expertise" behind the "it can't be this because of..." comments. Nothing personal towards anyone, just some comments..

Definitely a bigfoot! You guys are just wayyy to critical. Why can't you just believe? - VA

(just kidding)

But, at least it's in my backyard!!! Wahoo! Just FYI, that area is near Ravenna and not too far from Hiram, and the recent locale of interest, Mantua. Lots of reports in Portage county.

I completely agree bark. We cant say this is what all big feet look like so if you dont look like this than you are a fake. It will be a sad day indeed when we find a dead bigfoot but because he dosent look like patty he must be a dead guy in a suit too bad we never found the zipper.I personally dont see the baseball cap or gloves and for anyone to say they see any details other than form is really irresponseable. this is better than a blob but you still cant make anything out other than the out line.Again like barkly I am not attempting to attack any one person just the ideas we sometimes are to stiff to break away from.

Note how fast it runs in front of the light to the left than seems to pause as the camera man zooms in on the light to the right than it runs across. Sounds like the script read "run in front of the first light than pause a few seconds, I'll zoom in and then you run across".

Would you like to tell me please where I said that HE IS WEARING gloves?? Read it again.. I used it as an example to illustrate how weird the shadow of the "hands" looks to me.

Trying this out

Well I can see the Groucho bounce better.....I just hope it isn't " Just run across remember you're 8ft tall with a 5ft. stride"

Felt left out...

Oh wait. I don't know how to whistle.

The body moves like a human. The arms seem very long. 33 frames into the sequence I made, I think I can make out two eye sockets when it turns its head and gets a little help from the backlighting.

The guy zoomed in after this subject crossed infront of the first light. This sequence is when it passes in front of the second light. It is best to save this to your hard drive, open Quicktime and then you can resize it by dragging the frame.

Red is inverted. I did an 8 pass deconvolution and a few other weird things to get the image to come out more.

I see no gloves (unless it is for squash or some game like that). I see no cloth movement near it's belly area. I see no hat. I do see where it lifts it's leg while running and the dark area at the end has been enhanced to show a latent image running through it without the extreme light. It is not looped.

It also has a pretty long neck and the head diameter looks much more human than anything else. I can not see any hair.

I was useing the hat and baseball glove statements to make a point relevent to the statement i made. I did not attempt to quote anyone because i wasnt trying to me accurate word for word.

I noticed that. The head seems to sit up fairly high and is suggestive of more neck then I'd expect...

It does look like alot of neck. The arms are long, and in the first few frame sequences it looks as if it might be carrying something,although this could be just my tired eyes and play from the shadows and headlights. The last few sequences where the leg lifts it looks like "Groucho" was accelerating, but this could be the video quality and the tired eye thing. It really looks human.

bipto Posted on Jul 9 2004, 10:18 PM

Somone need a hug?

This thread is a lot better, still needs some improvement but...

Maybe we will get to see a lot more videos and photographs this way. People will want to bring their stuff here because it will really be looked at. Not glossed over as "Yeap, that there be a Sasquatch, where's channel 23 news, let's make a statement...", or "It's obvious this guy is delusional, that is just a chicken costume rented from some major league baseball club, I can tell because he has egg all over his face."

This is what a forum should be. No one that comes in here thinks to join because it is the Bigfoot Critique, that is until they read a little bit. Sure there are some that want to disrupt or make fun of us or the subject, but there are others who seriously are questioning what they saw, photographed, heard, smelled or found. It is only right to give them a chance, help them in posting what they want to.

We get fooled, it will eventually hurt those people more than us. If it makes them feel better to hurt or embarrass others, they have a big problem. Let's keep the white hat on.

Yeah, we need a white hat guy and a black hat guy smilie.

And FWIW, I'm not sure the PEI film is a hoax. IMO, it doesn't conclusively fall into either the 'hoax' or 'genuine' bucket...

You mean like...

:goodguy: :badguy:

If I am not mistaken, the person who took the footage has seen this creature more than once.

While I can not reach any definate conclusion about the film with the information I have at hand, if the explanation is true, then if this person is diligent he may be able to take better footage over time.

Those who are in a position such as this, with a permanent structure to use for reference should take full advantage. I wonder if there are security cameras on the building.

If indeed this is a legit case, then there seems to me to be a good chance of answering some perplexing questions about bigfoot.

Like: How come game cams don't work?

How do they know when we are taking pictures?

I hope those who are investigating this take a moment to consider these questions. I also hope this is not a hoax.

How about...

There are a few things about the video that catch my eye and make it interesting, but unfortunately I don't think any conclusive decision on its authenticity can be made due to the lighting and brevity of the subject on film.

And.....