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Tirademan
I had posted this 1972 story before of a letter to the editor stating the woman wanted no more hairy stories in the newspaper! HA! I got to reading it in detail and realized she mentioned some previous articles. I hunted them down and will post them after this. Here's the original letter.

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ps- you can purchase the entire collection as PDF book on CD-R here:
http://www.mcclean.org
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Here's the first article.

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And the follow-up that seemed to make one Ms. Jean Hill erupt in journalistic fervor for the safety of those gullible and impressionable young minds! I guess that means us! icon_really_happy_guy.gif

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Another Ohio 'Monster' sighting from 1972.

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QUOTE(RogerKni @ Sep 14 2004, 01:48 PM)
I've checked that source--they say they are adding 1,000,000 pages a month to their database, so that after 18 months or so it will have doubled--at which point you'll have to repeat your search!

Roger, you don't know how right you were!

Out of curiosity, I did a search yesterday on "wild men of the woods." It was the first search I had done over a year ago. Of course, I found MANY more stories.

I found about 50 new articles...in a couple of hours!

Looks like Volume 2 of Big News Prints is in my future! wacko.gif

Here's one that mentions VIOLENCE! new_evil.gif

(I know, I know, not directly attributable)

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You've gotta love these 1800's "eight foot gorilla" stories.

Not much confusion there! Skeptics say what exactly?

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Dorothy, we're not in Kansas anymore!

More seven-foot escaped gorillas on the loose! biggrin.gif

And to think I was just trying to add a couple of updates that Tugboatwa sent me to the book! :doh:

I'll post the others as I wade through them in the next couple of weeks, as I found some really interesting new stories.

The hard part will be to continue the search for more...this could go on forever!

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OK, this is the earliest mention of Tibetian "wild men" that I've come across. Interesting story too. I wonder what he means that they failed to skin it. Sounds like they didn't get near the "bear!"

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Ty
Hey Tirademan-Thanks for posting the articles...interesting reading.

On a lighter note...I think I might have cracked the case in the Plymouth
and Wellington sightings.....
It's none other than the famed recording artist Barry Gibb.
nightscream
QUOTE(Ty2 @ Nov 17 2005, 07:29 PM)
Hey Tirademan-Thanks for posting the articles...interesting reading.

On a lighter note...I think I might have cracked the case in the Plymouth
and Wellington sightings.....
It's none other than the famed recording artist Barry Gibb.

AAhh!! And that also accounts for the high pitched wails and screams that people often hear in the night!
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QUOTE(nightscream @ Nov 18 2005, 08:31 PM)
QUOTE(Ty2 @ Nov 17 2005, 07:29 PM)
Hey Tirademan-Thanks for posting the articles...interesting reading.

On a lighter note...I think I might have cracked the case in the Plymouth
and Wellington sightings.....
It's none other than the famed recording artist Barry Gibb.

AAhh!! And that also accounts for the high pitched wails and screams that people often hear in the night!

:rotflmao:

My God, that is a scary resemblance!

...and to hear the sound of his vocals in the woods at night? icon_stressed.gif

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nightscream
Hey Tirademan,

I'm a little late to this thread, at least the part about compiling the articles into
CD-R or book. I've read several of the articles in the thread.

The reason I mention that is that its a long thread so please accept my apology if this is mentioned already.

My question is, have you pitched this thing to a publisher? I think you've got something here. I've seen books similar that were simply compilations of stories and such put into book form that sell in bookstores.

I would think that even if someone is skeptical of the subject, they would have to agree that once presented with the vast amount of articles published on the subject they would have to be intrigued that there are so many articles out there.

I think if something like this ever made it to the general public it would help others to understand: the large number of reports of multiple sightings for common areas, the fact that the sightings are not simply in the PNW but in many other locations such as Ohio, Texas, Idaho, Louisiana, etc., and that these articles precede any hoaxes of the 1950's or 1960's by up to 100 years.
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QUOTE(nightscream @ Nov 18 2005, 08:52 PM)
Hey Tirademan,

I'm a little late to this thread, at least the part about compiling the articles into
CD-R or book. I've read several of the articles in the thread.

The reason I mention that is that its a long thread so please accept my apology if this is mentioned already.

My question is, have you pitched this thing to a publisher? I think you've got something here. I've seen books similar that were simply compilations of stories and such put into book form that sell in bookstores.

I would think that even if someone is skeptical of the subject, they would have to agree that once presented with the vast amount of articles published on the subject they would have to be intrigued that there are so many articles out there.

I think if something like this ever made it to the general public it would help others to understand: the large number of reports of multiple sightings for common areas, the fact that the sightings are not simply in the PNW but in many other locations such as Ohio, Texas, Idaho, Louisiana, etc., and that these articles precede any hoaxes of the 1950's or 1960's by up to 100 years.

Nightscream, I agree with you about the general public being impressed with the large number of old accounts, but it seems most people just don't care about the overall subject that much. sleep.gif

With that in regard, I don't think there is much of a market for a publisher, not to mention some clearance issues, but I've really not looked into it. I guess for now, I'm content self-publishing it.

Based on what I found the other day, I'll either have to update the entire thing, or publish a second volume anyway! wacko.gif

But, I think it is important to get this information out to everyone who is already interested in the subject and on the cutting edge....us "amateurs!" That way, the knowledge bleeds out there, and these stories can be used as arguement for, hopefully snaring more of mainstream science (read research money!).

As of now, I'm not selling hardcopies, but am working on making them available (I've made a few by hand). I just need to get off my butt and calculate the actual reproduction costs at a Kinkos-type place. But you can purchase a high resolution PDF file on CD-R at my website for $20 (including shipping) right now:
http://www.mcclean.org

And if you can't wait for me, with a little bit of practice, you can print out the even pages, flip them over and print the odd, making your own hardcopy. The PDF is nice because you can zoom into some of the small hard to read type.

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ps-as a side note to everyone interested...I found a copy of the very first post, "8'3" wildman with 2 cubs captured in Minnesota" story that isn't cut off! new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif
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Arkansas giant man chasing cattle...condensed.

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Arkansas giant man chasing cattle...expanded.

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ps-earthquake?...first time I've heard that explanation for a Sasquatch!
Maheekat
QUOTE(Ty2 @ Nov 17 2005, 07:29 PM)
Hey Tirademan-Thanks for posting the articles...interesting reading.

On a lighter note...I think I might have cracked the case in the Plymouth
and Wellington sightings.....
It's none other than the famed recording artist Barry Gibb.

Stayin' Alive!
BigfootDad
QUOTE(Tirademan @ Nov 18 2005, 08:20 PM)
Based on what I found the other day, I'll either have to update the entire thing, or publish a second volume anyway!  wacko.gif

But, I think it is important to get this information out to everyone who is already interested in the subject and on the cutting edge....us "amateurs!"  That way, the knowledge bleeds out there, and these stories can be used as arguement for, hopefully snaring more of mainstream science (read research money!).

...  But you can purchase a high resolution PDF file on CD-R at my website for $20 (including shipping) right now:
http://www.mcclean.org
...
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ps-as a side note to everyone interested...I found a copy of the very first post, "8'3" wildman with 2 cubs captured in Minnesota" story that isn't cut off!  new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif

new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif RIGHT ON, MAN-of-TIRADES!! YEAH!!

You da man...!!
:notworthy:


what do you mean...you found a copy that wasn't cut off of your very first post? ...like where one edge of the column was a "fill-in-the-missing-word" exercise? new_whistle.gif
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QUOTE(BigfootDad @ Nov 21 2005, 05:44 PM)
what do you mean...you found a copy that wasn't cut off of your very first post? ...like where one edge of the column was a "fill-in-the-missing-word" exercise? new_whistle.gif

That is the one BigfootDad! I haven't gotten to it yet, but I'll post it once I clean it up...here's another from 1891 California.

Funny thing about all those deer-skin-wearing folks...you'd think stealing clothes would be easier! biggrin.gif

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caledon35
THIS, TO ME, IS THE BIGGEST PROOF ON THE PLANET RIGHT NOW AS TO THE EXISTENCE OF "BIGFOOT".

Most 'lay-persons' assume that Bigfoot was made up since the 1950's or 60's as a hoaxed creature. They have NO IDEA that for hundreds of years there have been documented sightings in virtually every state! The extent of this type of collusion and hoaxing or mass-hysteria would be so enormous its possibility would be impossible.

I wondering a few things, though, that perhaps you folks could shed some light on:

*Has anyone, or is there anyway to, further investigate the repeated accounts of a Bigfoot creature being captured? Town Hall records, diaries, medical examiners records, anything? Has this avenue ever been attempted?

*Secondly, I thought it was common knowledge that the term "Bigfoot" was coined by Ray Wallace or somebody in the mid 1950's? If that's true, why do we see articles in this very post like this: http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?act...=post&id=125467 that mention the name in the 1930's and before?

Food for Thought! Ian
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QUOTE(caledon35 @ Nov 23 2005, 09:01 AM)
THIS, TO ME, IS THE BIGGEST PROOF ON THE PLANET RIGHT NOW AS TO THE EXISTENCE OF "BIGFOOT".

Most 'lay-persons' assume that Bigfoot was made up since the 1950's or 60's as a hoaxed creature. They have NO IDEA that for hundreds of years there have been documented sightings in virtually every state! The extent of this type of collusion and hoaxing or mass-hysteria would be so enormous its possibility would be impossible.

I wondering a few things, though, that perhaps you folks could shed some light on:

*Has anyone, or is there anyway to, further investigate the repeated accounts of a Bigfoot creature being captured? Town Hall records, diaries, medical examiners records, anything? Has this avenue ever been attempted?

*Secondly, I thought it was common knowledge that the term "Bigfoot" was coined by Ray Wallace or somebody in the mid 1950's? If that's true, why do we see articles in this very post like this: http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?act...=post&id=125467 that mention the name in the 1930's and before?

Food for Thought! Ian

Caledon35, I came across several stories regarding Bigfoot the "bear, wolf, etc." I posted them in this thread, but did not include them in the book. Basically, they detail the killing of an infamous "bear or wolf" that has killed off several HUNDRED head of livestock and then was tracked down and killed. I, myself question whether or not bears or wolves would kill hundreds, but that is just conjecture on my part. Anyway, Bigfoot the name has been used in the past, no doubt.

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caledon35
Tirademan, thanks for the info. I missed the part about you putting all these together for us in a book. How can I get a copy? I want to show it to those skeptics, and ask them "if there's nothing out there, how can this be?"!!!
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QUOTE(caledon35 @ Nov 24 2005, 09:16 AM)
Tirademan, thanks for the info.  I missed the part about you putting all these together for us in a book.  How can I get a copy?  I want to show it to those skeptics, and ask them "if there's nothing out there, how can this be?"!!!

Caledon35, you can buy the book in PDF format on CD-R from me for $20 at my website:
http://www.mcclean.org

For now, it is available in PDF format on CD as it's much more affordable for people to purchase. I'm looking into making hard copies available, but they will be more expensive to produce and sell. I will keep eveyone posted when I get that all figured out.

The PDF file that is on the CD-R is "high resolution" though, so when you print it out, it is high quality. You can see an image of it below.

It also contains the 20-page "Strange Howls" PDF I made of Library of Congress stories...and a couple of stickers!

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caledon35
Cool...I'm going to get it! Thanks, Ian
Tirademan
OK, here's another interesting recent find.

From 1882...an early report of a big-footed, large-striding, straight-lined track way...in Australia!

Gee, why does this sound so familiar? Well, except for that one-legged part! biggrin.gif

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OK, another early one from Florida that really shows the third-hand accounting of the times.

Who knows, could be a crazy guy, but subtle details of ferocious manner, queer sounds, gnashing teeth, covered with hair/skins, tall and muscular, mysterious night assaults etc. make me wonder.

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OK, another one that makes you go blink.gif

Was this just a large person as it states? A Sasquatch encounter with "additions and deletions" so people didn't think they were crazy? Mis-interpreted vocalization? 1800s typical Fiction? Who knows! They got the footprint dimensions right though!

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Another odd one...as a far-out conjecture I'd say the wildman took the cow to where the tracks couldn't be! biggrin.gif

Also, I know someone was looking for "tail stories"...I've found a couple, but here is another one that mentions a small tail like a deer...and large red eyes!

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OK, who says sasquatch and UFOs aren't related! HA!

40 times the size of a firefly? Swamp gas? icon_abduct.gif

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Maheekat
Tirademan I've been reading through the CD! wacko.gif my eyes are burning HA!
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QUOTE(Maheekat @ Dec 21 2005, 09:36 PM)
Tirademan I've been reading through the CD! wacko.gif my eyes are burning HA!

Maheekat, I know how you feel! I just keep finding more! :surrender:

I created the CD so it has a "high resolution" PDF file on it. (With a little practice and in sections) You can print out the even pages first, flip them over and then print out the odd on the other side. It's 300 dpi print quality and that is why the PDF is 299mb. You probably should copy it to your hard drive first. I've left enough room for a 3-hole punch, with the regional footprints and numbers along the outside margin on a standard 8.5x11 page. Reading a printed copy might save your vision!

Myself, I'm going to be spending a lot of time updating the entire thing with all these new stories I've found, along with many more that Tugboatwa and Craig Woolheater sent me.

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OK, while I know that many of these "wild men" accounts could be people just like the "crazy transient" humans of today, there are a few reasons why I still include them.

I'll add them if they mention things like huge size, ferocious aspect, fearful posses gathered to hunt them down, amazing speed, very long hair and/or beards to the waist, clothed in deer or animal skins, and carrying a large club. These are things that come up time and time again in these old reports. I believe they may just be trying to describe a strange creature as best they could. I could be wrong.

I know all of these traits could be applied to humans as well. But for me, things like "animal skins" don't make sense. Unless I'm mistaken, it would seem easier to steal clothing than it would be to kill animals, dress their hides and then make clothing! Also, towns don't seem to cower in fear over transients today...why would they back then?

Anyway, Merry Xmas to all...here's a couple more! 1889...Feared in Iowa, but not in Michigan evidently!

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It was a busy year!

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OK, I made progress following up on the 1839 captured 8'3" wildman story from the Boston Times (see the very first post in this thread)...but I don't like what was found! sad.gif

Let me start by saying that I'd rather bring it to light, than have some skeptic say "told you so!" and act like I was hiding something.

Since it is one of the most impressive stories, I was bummed, but I also don't think the small, but important, detail necessarily negates the legitmacy of the story! The Boston Times version is completely unedited, unlike the other reprints I found in other newspapers, and adds some more detail to the story.

The big discovery is that the story appeared in the Boston Times Monday morning, April 1, 1839. That's right, April Fools day.

One thing that leads me to believe that it was not an "April Fools Joke," is that the story ran on a page of all "news" items...none of which had any "tall tale" qualities. Unfortunately, concerning the subject of Sasquatch, most skeptics consider it a tall tale in and of itself.

Again, I'd rather "expose" this detail than someone else.

Also, my "agent" who went to the Boston Public Library didn't find any follow-up stories, but didn't search extensively either.

I plan on typing up the entire story (it is too beat up to use the original) and post it here for all to read and judge.

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DarkRabbit
Tirademan:

Unbelievable. Simply unbelievable.

How many gold stars are there to give in the world?

You get a truckload for your work, and that should only represent a downpayment from the BF community.

The historical perspective is compelling beyond words.

Thanks!!!

DR
Tirademan
Thanks DarkRabbit!

As promised, here's the re-typed April 1st, 1839 Boston Times article in it's entirety.

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OK, I just finished reading Daegling's book "Bigfoot Exposed" :doh:

I'd love to see him try to explain this thread! I guess he'd claim it was proof that people have been hoaxing forever! As opposed to my theory (based on reading all these old stories), that people NEED a solution to large man-like ape sightings, so INVENT or FIND hoaxers, transients, and escaped circus animals over and over and over! :eek3dance:

While of course not offering this up as "proof" of anything, here's a violent story that might trip him up a bit. I couldn't quite understand his logic that, if sasquatch weren't "kind and gentle" as advocates have stated, they couldn't exist.

Seems to me that they behave like all animals (including humans)...situationally!

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nightscream
These articles continue to amaze me.

Did this one mention that the camp of the creature included a smoldering fire?

I also think its interesting that the people back then would think that a chimpanzee would be capable of breaking a horse's neck and dragging it into the woods.

That would be one chimpanzee I wouldn't want to mess with.

Same thing with the previous article about the captured wildmen.

Since when do you find Orang atangs that are 8'3"?! (i know that I didn't even come close to spelling that right, sorry).
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OK, I'm slowly wading through the new finds I'd made....this old gumdrop iMac sure doesn't purr like the Dual G5 tower I had at work!

Must have been a lot of bad cages back then! This must be 20th escaped gorilla story I've found! :laugh:

Classic though, running on all fours, entered a cave, broken chains, etc etc...



And another good early story.

The 1811 Madrid earthquake? :doh:

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glendoor42
QUOTE(nightscream @ Feb 10 2006, 07:08 PM) *
I also think its interesting that the people back then would think that a chimpanzee would be capable of breaking a horse's neck and dragging it into the woods.

That would be one chimpanzee I wouldn't want to mess with.


Chimpanzees are five to seven times stronger than a human on "average" their bones are denser than ours
and their skin is tougher.So I don't see any problem with one breaking a horses neck. The average horse
weighs between about 900 to 1200# so a chimp carrying one off might not be that hard.
Tirademan
OK, a couple more strange stories. Not sure about the knife stories but thought I'd post them anyway. Again, I feel it gives one more of an understanding of the nature of the accounting of the times.

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OK, I've been getting this weird "double post" thing going on. I'm trying to post separate posts, but they've been doubling up for some reason.

Here's another strange knife story with a wild mule ride to boot.

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Some more short stories...

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Wild boy seen...grown up, on all fours and barking like a dog!

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This one is timely because of the Illinois thread...

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Wildman
Hey Scott, I got the cd-rom in the mail yesterday! :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:

For anyone who has an interest in these old clippings, I highly recommend it!!!

Big News Prints
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Thanks Wildman!

Here's another one that makes you go huh.gif

France, 1744...they feed the girl grass and vegetables to recover?...he's tall, hairy as a bear and likes to run sheep!

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OK, this is the classic "just a nutjob" kind of thing, but...

I'll ask you this...do people send out a posse of 100 people to catch a transient?

It could have been common back then, I don't know.

What say you?

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JayleeD
This is one of my favorite threads ever on the BFF. Thanks Tirademan. I look forward to every article that you post.




Now, see if you can search out that old Arkansas report of the late 1800's where the hairy creature jumped out from the side of a trail, pulled the farmer off his horse, and rode off on the horse! I've been searching for it for a long time. :new_tiredsmiley:
Tirademan
JayleeD, it's on page 158 of Big News Prints...I mistakenly put it into the "New York" section as it was from the Hornellsville Tibune, May 1856. They chased him across frozen water, after which he came out, shook off and attacked (and bit!) the horse rider...Parailifta?, Arkansas on upper Red River. I'll try to post it again, but it should be somewhere earlier in this thread...

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This is one of my favorite threads ever on the BFF. Thanks Tirademan. I look forward to every article that you post.

Now, see if you can search out that old Arkansas report of the late 1800's where the hairy creature jumped out from the side of a trail, pulled the farmer off his horse, and rode off on the horse! I've been searching for it for a long time. new_tiredsmiley.gif
Tirademan
Here's another interesting recent find...1886, a family captured.

Even though it sounds odd, many things ring true. I'll let you decide.

Yes, I re-typed it as it was too beat up to read.

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StoneyRocks
i've often wondered if some of these stories could be explained as indivduals with Hypertrichosis--(the wolf boy disease)?? who were exiled from a community?

just a thought

btw i agree with jaylee this is definitely one of the better threads on here

thanks tirademan
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