He obviously didn't read my very first post regarding the capture of an 8' 3" hair-covered "wild man of the woods" with 2 cubs in 1839!

Once I compile these into a digestible format, maybe I'll send him one to look over!

Many of these articles, in fact, do describe large, hair-covered manimal sightings.

The skeptics never really try to examine these historical roots...when they are presented with them, they explain them away without facts or logic. Just like the people did in the 1800s!

What I find compelling is the "historical consistancy" all the way up to today!

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(doubling their archives? ouch! )

OK, found a couple more I downloaded, but missed in the cleanup...A cool Yeti cartoon from 1942!
...Shipton's find and some other tracks...the Wompus story is interesting in that the animal in question sounds pretty odd...but once again, described as human tracks with night prowling...more consistancy.

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Said he found the tracks many times in the past...

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Another explorer sees tracks...

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PDF :dancedude: PDF :dancedude: PDF :dancedude:


(there's no 'cheerleading' smilie)

The curious story of the wompus...a lot of footprints at night from the sound of it!

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I keep getting distracted while laying out the PDF because I'm finding stuff I missed! Rest assured that I found these last 4 while working on it!

I'm trying to get it "Quarked" so I can make some copies of it to give to people who are going to be at the upcoming conferences.

I'll keep you posted...pun intended

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Sasquatch goes on a killing spree in 1764!...I'm not kidding!

Someone want to look up that old French stuff?


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Regarding the skeptical article in Strange magazine--I don't think it's too persuasive, because most of its accounts would have been of the 6-footish Eastern or Southern Bigfoot, and because the large majority of current sightings (over 75%) don't mention an odor. And it's pretty far-fetched to think witnesses then couldn't have distinguished a beast from a crazy, hairy hermit most of the time.

Here's another possible treasure trove for researchers that I just discovered a few hours ago: http://www.highbeam.com. It is another pay site ($20/mo., $100/year) that contains magazine & newspaper articles from the past 25 years, books, etc., 90% of which it claims aren't available on the regular (free) web. I found 1900+ magazine articles when I searched for "Bigfoot OR Sasquatch".

You can also configure it to alert you as new items are added that match your search profile. (I hope that the database Tirademan is working with will provide that, otherwise a lot of effort will be duplicated down the road in checking for new stories that have been added.)

Roger, thanks for the link...too bad they don't have older magazines! I don't think the newspaperarchive.com database is really that sophisticated, so it probably will take effort to screen the new additions.

I agree with you on that argument being un-persuasive. Most people say what they see. I think naked "wild men" wouldn't strike terror in the hearts people as I read in many of these "wild man" reports. It's the NON-witnesses who strive to find an "easy" or "unremarkable" explanation!

That is one of the things that impacts me about these old reports...their consistancy. Not only in what people claim to have seen, BUT in how the "skeptics" explain these sightings away.

Not much has changed since then.


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PS!- I just finished the first draft of the, count 'em, 118 page "Big News Prints 1!" I made a test PDF of it and it's a whopping 20mb...but smaller than I thought. The PDF won't generate nearly the detail that my Quark document can. I've layed it out 2-sided and will distribute 1st generation copies so that more copies can be made from them. I will put the PDF online soon as well, but it really doesn't compare to my original printouts of the higher resolution files (because the PDF is generating 72dpi jpegs)

Roger, thanks for the link...too bad they don't have older magazines! I don't think the newspaperarchive.com database is really that sophisticated, so it probably will take effort to screen the new additions.

I agree with you on that argument being un-persuasive. Most people say what they see. I think naked "wild men" wouldn't strike terror in the hearts of people as I've read in many of these "wild man" reports. It's the NON-witnesses who strive to find an "easy" or "unremarkable" explanation!

That is one of the things that impacts me about these old reports...their consistancy. Not only in what people claim to have seen, BUT in how the "skeptics" explain these sightings away.

Not much has changed...


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PS!- I just finished the first draft of the, count 'em, 118 page "Big News Prints 1!" I made a test PDF of it and it's a whopping 20mb...but smaller than I thought. The PDF won't generate nearly the detail that my Quark document can. I've layed it out 2-sided and will distribute 1st generation copies so that more copies can be made from them. I will put the PDF online soon as well, but it really doesn't compare to my original printouts of the higher resolution files (because the PDF is generating 72dpi jpegs)

Well, I saw Daniel Perez's remaining questions about the Patterson film and so I searched on "bigfoot" and "Roger Patterson" from that era. Didn't find any answers, but did find a couple of mentions and the Ivan Sanderson article...not to mention an article explaining those pesky camera theft charges Roger had filed against him...

I'll start with an earlier 1966 article about "Bigfoot" which I thought interesting.

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OK, I guess he needed the camera to show to those damn "scientists!"

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I came across some of the original photos and stories...nothing that hasn't been seen, but interesting nonetheless...

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More of those early reports with the photo...

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A mention of Roger's quest...

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OK, the Ivan Sanderson early article on the Patterson film.

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And Family Weekly adds their hard-hitting investigation!

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"...substantial sums in prospect?"

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Well, the flood gates have opened!

In my original searches, I was limiting my finds to pre-1956 as I was trying to find things "pre-hype."

Well, I missed a bunch of stuff by doing that!

I've got a huge pile to wade through...here's a start...

I wonder what kind of stories they collected?!

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John Green mentioned...

It has been interesting to go through these newspapers "in time."

I've gotten a good feel of how Sasquatch has been reported through the decades and how the "viewpoint" has been changing.

An unknown wildman, connected to Native tales, dismissed and laughed at, finally questioned, and now studied!

Progress!

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An early personal ad...

Interesting too, the names I've come across...seems there were a bunch of searchers out there before!

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I found many articles like this...

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Anybody heard of that Wyatt journal in the previous post? hmmm...

Here's one of several with Rene...

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Wonder where he went?

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This is the Canadian report that is followed by the exposure of the "hoax." I posted those stories previously.

Another thing I found interesting is that there seems to be a trend of hoaxes AFTER "genuine" sightings!

Kids get the idea planted and then go for the gorilla suit to scare people the next couple days. I found at least 3 or 4 examples of that, and not all recent!

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Bob says..."It's not a question of thinking they exist. I know positively."

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Wounded?...damn...I did find several where "I knew I hit it" reports were filed about gunshots....hmmmph

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Mr. Tom Steenburg in the news...

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And I think I found 3 of these in the "kids" sections of newspapers over the years! Ask Andy!

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OK, not much to do with Sasquatch, but it's a Ford?

Hmmm...never heard of it!

Course, I was 13 in '76!

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Michigan's Bigfoot tracked!

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Grover, early days on the quest!

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A more recent article with Don Keating...

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General article from the early 70's..

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Peter, 1974...

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And another "general" story. Seemed to make the press a lot in the 70s...after the Patterson film.

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lose the bit about the psychic aura and it's a nifty story.

Thanks Chronic, that IS a bit out there!

Here's one I gleaned through for a post in another thread...found a couple with military and police sightings from the past...

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No Tirade, Thank YOU, this thread is cherry!
Every article is a worthwhile printout and once collated, a choice addition to the 'squatch library.
I've read the PDF isn't coming out really clear, will the members of this forum have access to your Quark file?
Or, if you can get a choice printout yourself, would you be willing to copy/mail it out to interested (lazy) members for a reasonable time/effort fee?

Chronic, yeah, the "book" is taking shape. I basically had it all layed out...then I went searching for post 1956 stuff...DOH!!!

I'm laying it out with some color pages, 2-sided. It's broken down A-Z state-by-state chronologically, so now I'll have to "rip it all apart" to include the new stuff.

I'm almost afraid to keep searching! I just keep finding more!

It was 118 pages...not sure how much the new stories will add, but I'm guessing 50 more pages.

I was planning on trying to get a copy together to send to the TX conference later this month...we'll see!

I think what you mentioned about copying a master is the most logical.

It really does give you an interesting historical perspective when compiled.

I'll keep you posted...but at some point, I'll actually have to get some design work done here for Sony!

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If you do put together a book, try to flag the items that were "previously unreported" (in the BF literature). If an item has been reported, maybe also mention where. These flags would add to the value of the collection.

Probably someone like Larry Lund (or some other real BFer who's very familiar with all the literature) could quickly do something like this, if he were asked to preview it.

That's a good idea Roger.

I agree, it's kind of a hard thing for me to do alone. I've never heard of most of the pre-1940 reports (with a couple exceptions), but as you get into the 1950's-00's most of the newspaper stories have been seen by someone, but maybe not published.

Also, mixing "first hand sighting reports" with "second hand stories" and "general information pieces" is something I'm wrestling with as well. I'm not really collecting all of the latest aritcles from the late 90's-00's as they have to do with stories, conferences and such that seem pretty current.

If you have any ideas, please let me know! I can post a PDF preview that could be downloaded and looked at...my 118 pg PDF was 20mbs though, so broadband would help.

And, as I said, I'd hopefully have something in time for the Texas conference, so it could be looked at there.

After I get it compiled, I'll either update it, or just make another one!

You can download a previous "PDF pamphlet" of strange and interesting stories I found at the Library of Congress here:
www.mcclean.org

...and a few more I found...if only this one were true!

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Multiple sightings...uh, oh...

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Talk about no respect!

He probably REALLY saw one!

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Expeditions away!

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Politics rears it's head...wonder what happened to this group?

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Man's prehistoric past...

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Keeping those kids interested!

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Some of these microfiche scans are really bad...

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