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The QuatchWatcher
From msnbc.com:

HERE is the link.

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By Maggie Fox
Health and Science Correspondent

Updated: 1:34 p.m. ET May 26, 2004
WASHINGTON - Tiny genetic changes add up to huge differences when human DNA is compared to that of chimpanzees, researchers said Wednesday, in a report that explains how people and apes can be so close, yet so far apart.
Genetically, chimpanzees are 98.5 percent identical to humans. But the differences between the species are clearly profound, and geneticists have been laboring to find out how such subtle variations in DNA can be so important.
“Clearly, the genomic differences between humans and chimps are much more complicated than conventional wisdom has portrayed,” Asao Fujiyama of the RIKEN Genomic Sciences Center in Yokohama, Japan, and colleagues in Japan, Taiwan and China wrote in their report, published in Thursday's issue of the journal Nature.
The comparison will help understand disease and also help in comparing one person’s genetic sequence with another's by helping to set a “base” genetic sequence that can be used to determine the individual human variations in DNA.
Chromosome counterparts compared
Fujiyama’s team compared chromosome 22 on three different chimpanzees to its counterpart in humans, chromosome 21.
They looked for differences that would help separate the human sequence from the chimp sequence.
Fujiyama’s team found that just 1.44 percent of the DNA was different at the level of single letters of genetic code.
These letters, A, C, T and G, stand for the nucleotides that make up the DNA of all living creatures — adenine, cytosine, thymine and guanine. The nucleotides match up to make amino acids, which in turn string together into genes that control the proteins made by cells.
There are vast stretches of DNA that do not make up genes, and scientists are struggling to understand their importance.
Big protein differences
Fujiyama’s team found differences that may be more important than the single-letter changes.
“There is also an impressive number (68,000) of small to large stretches of DNA that have been either gained or lost (these are called ’insertions or deletions’, ’indels’ for short) in one species or the other,” the researchers wrote.
“These differences are sufficient to generate changes in most of the proteins: Indeed, 83 percent of the 231 coding sequences, including functionally important genes, show differences at the amino-acid sequence level,” they added.
“Our data suggest that indels within coding regions (genes) represent one of the major mechanisms generating protein diversity and shaping higher primate species.”
In other words, while the genes and other DNA may look the same in chimpanzees and humans, the proteins they eventually code for can be very different. This supports what genetic researchers have been saying lately — that subtle changes in the genetic code that reach far beyond the genes themselves may be extremely important to biology.
The power of proteins
While there may be no more than about 30,000 to 40,000 human genes, there are more than 250,000 different proteins.
The researchers tried to calculate what the genetic code of the original ancestor of both looked like, 6 million to 7 million years ago.
It looked to them as if the original ancestor of human chimps had a larger genome, and each species pared it down differently as they evolved.
Some of the genetic differences they found may have direct implications for disease. They found differences between chimp and human immune system genes, for instance, and molecules involved in early brain development.
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A Blister In The Sun,
The QuatchWatcher
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RobUstes
QUOTE(The QuatchWatcher @ May 27 2004, 11:17 AM)
A Blister In The Sun,
The QuatchWatcher
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You go on !!! laugh.gif

But she failed to mention, prob because most people know a chimp when they see it, that orangs are closer gentically than chimps are, and bonobos are in between there somewhere ... makes ya wonder about sassi, eh ? wink.gif
The QuatchWatcher
QUOTE(RobUstes @ May 27 2004, 10:21 AM)
... makes ya wonder about sassi, eh ? wink.gif

Precisely new_lmaosmiley.gif
RayG
Once was once thought to be a small difference has now been revised.

Seems like the gap, thought to be less than 2% in 2002, is now claimed as 83% according to the latest studies.

Guess it depends on what statistics you're looking at.

RayG
JayleeD
I don't know exactly how closely related I am to that little guy in the picture, but I think he's a cutie for sure! Thanks QW! wink.gif
b2_
QUOTE(RayG @ May 27 2004, 12:01 PM)
Once was once thought to be a small difference has now been revised.

Seems like the gap, thought to be less than 2% in 2002, is now claimed as 83% according to the latest studies.

Guess it depends on what statistics you're looking at.

RayG

Interesting. I think the most accurate study is this:
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992833
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...4_dnachimp.html

Says the difference is ~95%. Indels tell the story.
b2_
QUOTE(RobUstes @ May 27 2004, 11:21 AM)
But she failed to mention, prob because most people know a chimp when they see it, that orangs are closer gentically than chimps are, and bonobos are in between there somewhere ... makes ya wonder about sassi, eh ? wink.gif

I hope you aren't saying orangs are genetically closer to humans than chimps. are you?
VernF
QUOTE(b2_ @ May 27 2004, 04:19 PM)
I hope you aren't saying orangs are genetically closer to humans than chimps. are you?

Yes, it has been settled for many years that chimps (or bonobos, depending on whose study you credit) are genetically closest among the apes to H. sapiens.

-Vern
RayG
QUOTE(b2_ @ May 27 2004, 05:17 PM)
QUOTE(RayG @ May 27 2004, 12:01 PM)
Once was once thought to be a small difference has now been revised.

Seems like the gap, thought to be less than 2% in 2002, is now claimed as 83% according to the latest studies.

Guess it depends on what statistics you're looking at.

RayG

Interesting. I think the most accurate study is this:
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992833
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...4_dnachimp.html

Says the difference is ~95%. Indels tell the story.

b2, both the links you provide are from September 2002.

The latest study, which I provided the link to, was reported today, on news.google.com.

The ones from 2002 have the similarity ranging between 95-98+%. Today's study puts the figure at about 17% for similarities.

QUOTE(http://www.biomedcentral.com/news/20040527/01/)
Early molecular comparisons between humans and chimpanzees suggested that the species are very similar to each other at the nucleotide sequence level—a difference of between 1.23% and 5%, Sakaki said. The results reported this week showed that "83% of the genes have changed between the human and the chimpanzee—only 17% are identical—so that means that the impression that comes from the 1.2% [sequence] difference is [misleading]. In the case of protein structures, it has a big effect," Sakaki said.


Here's some additional links:
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99995044
http://news.google.com/news?num=30&hl=en&e...id%3dns99995044

RayG
b2_
QUOTE(RayG @ May 27 2004, 06:25 PM)
b2, both the links you provide are from September 2002.

Just because a study is later, does not mean it is more accurate. Time of study does not always equal correctness. For years MRE apologists have been putting out new studies in attempts to prove their theory.. hasn't worked. But saying that, these new studies look good. I think its safe to say now that chimps and humans share less (much less) than 98% of genetic similarity, as the majority of studies and texts have you believe.
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