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StacyInMI
Hah! Probably be more convincing that that Philip Morris monkey suit would be! laugh.gif
Mike I
Only you can prevent..... icon_really_happy_guy.gif
AnotherPullTab
Only you can prevent idiot re-enactments...
New York Believer
QUOTE(AnotherPullTab @ May 15 2004, 10:08 AM)
Only you can prevent idiot re-enactments...

But then again why would you want to?

I for one can't wait to see those guys attempt to re-create the PG film footage. icon_really_happy_guy.gif

Then the whole world will learn that Bob H. wasn't in "the suit" that day in Bluff Creek and hopefully this whole sad, "I was the guy in the Bigfoot suit", chapter in Bigfoot history can be closed. Once Bob H, Kal K, and friends 15 minutes of fame are up they will all slink back into the shadows or under what ever rock they crawled out from under. new_lmaosmiley.gif
Leemon
icon_really_happy_guy.gif icon_really_happy_guy.gif Way to go Volsquatch! new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif
belleoftheball
Well the IDIOT was on ET tonight... :yuck:
Got a Good Laugh out of it if nothing else
WISQUATCH
QUOTE(belleoftheball @ May 16 2004, 12:12 AM)
Well the IDIOT was on ET tonight... :yuck:
Got a Good Laugh out of it if nothing else

Belle,

I missed it last night, was out to dinner with my wife and kids. What did the IDIOT have to say for himself?


WIS
belleoftheball
QUOTE(WISQUATCH @ May 16 2004, 09:03 AM)
QUOTE(belleoftheball @ May 16 2004, 12:12 AM)
Well the IDIOT was on ET tonight... :yuck:
Got a Good Laugh out of it if nothing else

Belle,

I missed it last night, was out to dinner with my wife and kids. What did the IDIOT have to say for himself?


WIS

That he was Paid $1000. to wear the suit and that he was so hot in the suit that he couldn't take it any longer ph34r.gif and that he had the suit in the trunk of his car and that it scared his wife somewhat. dry.gif BOTHER :rolleyes: They looked at his feet yawn.gif Like "They" at ET were EXPERTS on Foot Prints and Patty! icon_bang.gif
What gets me is they didn't even bother to ask WHERE'S THE SUIT new_thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

Guess thats why its called ENTERTAIMENT TONIGHT

Belle
DodgeBoyz
Oh yeah,looks just like it dry.gif
Skeptic
QUOTE(belleoftheball @ May 16 2004, 03:14 PM)
What gets me is they didn't even bother to ask WHERE'S THE SUIT new_thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

All of you claim Patty is real. If this is true then you're asking for a suit which does not exist. Now since you claim Patty is real and estimates say there are 2000+ Bigfoots roaming the Pacific Northwest you show me a speciman, living or dead. You can't even do that. You want Mr. Long to present evidence to support his argument when you can't even present evidence to support your argument when the odds are 2000 to 1 in your favor.

If you cross your fingers and hope and pray hard enough your wish that Bigfoot is real might come true.
bipto
Um, what have I missed here? We're asking the guy who says it was a suit to produce the suit. No, there has not been the opportunity to study a body, but for you to say we have presented no evidence is to grossly underestimate all the evidence that has been 'presented'.

If I cross my fingers and hope and pray hard enough will my wish come true that all the trolls of the earth will disappear?
chronic
QUOTE
All of you claim Patty is real. If this is true then you're asking for a suit which does not exist.


well........YEAH! (sharp as a bowling ball.)



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Now since you claim Patty is real and estimates say there are 2000+ Bigfoots roaming the Pacific Northwest you show me a speciman, living or dead.


Why? Physical sasquatch proof has no bearing on how full o s**t Bob H is. (bright as a 2 watt bulb)
Skeptic
QUOTE
Um, what have I missed here? We're asking the guy who says it was a suit to produce the suit. No, there has not been the opportunity to study a body, but for you to say we have presented no evidence is to grossly underestimate all the evidence that has been 'presented'.


What evidence? Footprints? Many have been faked and you have no Bigfoot specimen to prove he/she left the prints. Hair or blood? There is no hair or blood from a known Bigfoot specimen to compare it to so claiming it came from Bigfoot is speculation at best. Video? How many videos of hoaxes are out there? Only one is claimed as legit and that's Patterson's and even that one is highly controversial.

You tell me I shouldn't believe Mr. Long because he can't produce a suit. You can't produce a specimen for me, living or dead. Why should I believe you when you lack just as much verifiable evidence as Mr. Long?

QUOTE
If I cross my fingers and hope and pray hard enough will my wish come true that all the trolls of the earth will disappear?


Is this some new Bigfoot believer’s seminar response? When asked for evidence to support your claim you accuse the poster of being a troll to avoid presenting the evidence?

Some of you people need to start posting with more logic and less emotion. If Patty is proven to be real the sun will rise up tomorrow and I will go to work. If Patty is proven to be a hoax the sun will still rise up tomorrow and I will go to work. Some of you act like if Patty is proven to be a hoax the sun will never rise again and gloom will come upon your world.
Skeptic
QUOTE(chronic @ May 17 2004, 02:30 PM)
Why?  Physical sasquatch proof has no bearing on how full o s**t Bob H is.  (bright as a 2 watt bulb)

And until you can present me a speciman that proves Bigfoot exist than your claim that Patty is real is just as full o s**t.
chronic
QUOTE(Skeptic @ May 17 2004, 02:41 PM)
And unil you can present me a speciman that proves Bigfoot exist than your claim that Patty is real is just as full o s**t.

There's plenty of relevant evidence regarding sasquatch's existence, it's noone's fault but yours for ignoring it.

There's 0, nada, zip, NO evidence as far as Bobby-boy's suit is concerned.
Judaculla
I posted the following on January 30th, and thought it was worth posting again.

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I do think the PG film is very likely the genuine article, but it would not be the end of my world if it were conclusively proved to be a fake. I think other evidence is equally if not more compelling.

We all tend to be very visual people. We love sightings, photographs, and films. We want to see what is out there.

Most skeptics fall into the same way of thinking we do. They focus on the visual evidence. If they can cast doubt on the PG film, then they have done their debunking of sasquatch. End of story.

But, there are other things that are widely accepted by humans that we don't need a picture of. Have you ever seen a good picture of the planet Pluto? an atom? the earth going around the sun? Of course not. In fact, when I look up in the sky, it looks like the sun goes around the earth.

Pluto, atoms, and a heliocentric planetary system were all initially demonstrated through inference. Measurement of their properties through indirect means provided the evidence needed to show they existed (not without denial, ridicule and debate in some cases!)

That's why I find evidence like dermal ridges and the inferred functional morphology and dynamic motion of sasquatch feet to be more interesting than the PG film. Unlike film evidence, we have lots of track evidence that spans many thousands of miles and dozens (perhaps hundreds) of years.

And when you get many instances (tokens, samples, observations) of any one thing (type, population), you can make see how those tokens are distributed (such as track length-to-width ratios in a bell-shaped curve) and if they are consistent with each other (like dermal ridges found on a Georgia track in 1997 being consistent with dermal ridges found on PNW tracks). You can even see how those tokens cluster (such as geographically in certains kinds of habitat and not others) and how they correlate with other measures (no correlation to human population implies sociopsychological explanations are not the underlying driver).

There is an abundance of compelling evidence that doesn't rely on filming or seeing a sasquatch. In lieu of a body (IMHO), it is worth our effort to explore more fully how we can strengthen the persuasiveness of our arguments by plunging more thoroughly and systematically into what we already have in our hands.
JayleeD
Question for you Skeptic, if you don't believe bigfoot is real, why the hell do you keep coming in here? Just to stir up shit? After all, this is a BIGFOOT Forum. Sounds like a troll to me. :rolleyes:
Redwolf
"MEEP MEEEP!!"
bipto
QUOTE(Skeptic @ May 17 2004, 03:34 PM)
Some of you people need to start posting with more logic and less emotion.  If Patty is proven to be real the sun will rise up tomorrow and I will go to work. 

I've left little nuggets of logic all over this place. Feel free to read every post I've made on the subject and get back to me...

QUOTE(Skeptic @ May 17 2004, 03:34 PM)
If Patty is proven to be a hoax the sun will still rise up tomorrow and I will go to work.  Some of you act like if Patty is proven to be a hoax the sun will never rise again and gloom will come upon your world.

Well, luckily I have a family and many close friends, so at least for me, all this bigfoot crap could disappear tomorrow and I'd be just fine. Thanks for the concern, though.

QUOTE(Skeptic @ May 17 2004, 03:34 PM)
Is this some new Bigfoot believer’s seminar response?  When asked for evidence to support your claim you accuse the poster of being a troll to avoid presenting the evidence?

Not from the seminar, but it is in the handbook.

QUOTE(Skeptic @ May 17 2004, 03:34 PM)
What evidence?  Footprints?  Many have been faked and you have no Bigfoot specimen to prove blah blah blah..

You show an embarrassing low level of knowledge on this subject if all you think we have are possibly faked footprints to call 'evidence'. I suggest you study up a bit more before commenting on the quality of what has or has not been presented as bigfoot evidence before posting again on the topic.

QUOTE(Skeptic @ May 17 2004, 03:34 PM)
You tell me I shouldn't believe Mr. Long because he can't produce a suit.  You can't produce a specimen for me, living or dead.  Why should I believe you when you lack just as much verifiable evidence as Mr. Long?

The lack of a suit is just one of many reasons you should not believe Mr. Long, not the only reason. Please go read any of the millions of words already written about him on this forum for more details.

You and I agree on one thing. We do need to produce a body...if for no other reason than to rid this site of people like you. smile.gif
Fishbone35
I love it when he weighs into the fray. Way to say it, Bipto. thumbup.gif
RogerKni
Ditto
Wildman
QUOTE(Skeptic @ May 17 2004, 01:41 PM)
QUOTE(chronic @ May 17 2004, 02:30 PM)
Why?  Physical sasquatch proof has no bearing on how full o s**t Bob H is.  (bright as a 2 watt bulb)

And until you can present me a speciman that proves Bigfoot exist than your claim that Patty is real is just as full o s**t.

If the government would back Bigfoot research, we'd probably have a specimen by now. Instead, it appears they'd rather fund experiments with the mentally challenged on the Internet. Isn't that right "Skeptic," or should I say "Test Subject #3762?" wink.gif
belleoftheball
QUOTE(Skeptic @ May 17 2004, 01:46 PM)
QUOTE(belleoftheball @ May 16 2004, 03:14 PM)

What gets me is they didn't even bother to ask WHERE'S THE SUIT new_thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

All of you claim Patty is real. If this is true then you're asking for a suit which does not exist. Now since you claim Patty is real and estimates say there are 2000+ Bigfoots roaming the Pacific Northwest you show me a speciman, living or dead. You can't even do that. You want Mr. Long to present evidence to support his argument when you can't even present evidence to support your argument when the odds are 2000 to 1 in your favor.

If you cross your fingers and hope and pray hard enough your wish that Bigfoot is real might come true.

We're asking for the Suit that B.S. oops I mean B.H said he wore.

We know that Pattys real, and we also know that "THE" Suit doesn't Exist!!!!!!!! (if it did then we wouldn't be having this discussion, NOW WOULD WE?)
BigfootDad
ohhh! nice thread! new_whistle.gif
well said, Belle! And Bipto! And Wildman! thumbup.gif
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