Hi gang. I'm interested in exploring hockamock swamp, looking for the big guy, or other oddities in the Hockamock (HM) swamp. Need to know some good places, old sightings, etc. Also, anyone else looking to troop throught this swamp? I Am thinking of using bait to try and capture footprints, or at least see if the food is gone. (will hang high in tree, 7ft, and use a squirrel shield).

be careful dude, as a bridgewater citizen, i've heard of really creepy storys.... if u do go in the swamp, i beleive there are paths...i would follow them, all the encounters i've heard of were of a sas stalking ppls who were on the paths..also i heard another story of a guy who was boating in the swamp, and the creature surfaced behind his boat. Be careful to of smells, u could be tricked easily. There is a lot of skunk cabage in the area and it can easily be mistaked for a creature smell. If i went in, start out by the nip. I beleive the paths start there, if there are any. Also keep a eye out for the well known "thunderbird", lots of indian tales talk about the creature and it is thot to live in there...anywho goodluck, ur gonna need it.

heres some qoutes of a article that was in the news a while back



http://members.aol.com/soccorro64/btriangle.htm - go there for the hole article, and the UFO crud is probably fake...

Thus far I have been setting out from 138, walking the powerlines. I have heard a lot of stories, but I have never seen, heard or smelled (smelt?) anything odd.

Also, almost none of the sightings from this area I can find even remotely give an actual location...

That dog tale, could that be a rationalization of BF??

also look by route 24, i've heard of a sasquatch sighting there, and i think only a portion of route 24 is in the hockomock, so that will narrow down the possible areas.


i'll try to look online for more detailed locations and get back asap

Sasquelvis wrote:


Sas, you need to do some preparation before you go in there.

1st) Read the chapter about the "Bridgewater Triangle" in Loren Coleman's book, "Mysterious America". That's a good introduction to the legends and folklore surrounding your chosen research area. Gets the blood pumping and the heart racing when you get out there!

2nd) Go to the Bridgewater Public Library seeing how that you're in the area and ask for the "Reference Only" Bigfoot clippings book. They have an entire 3 ring binder filled with newspaper accounts and eyewitness sightings collected by a Joe DeAndrade who he himself had an encounter with a Bigfoot in the swamp. They will let you make copies at 0.10 a page if I remember correctly. Not all the pages are worth having though.

3rd) get some topo maps, town maps, compass, whatever, and decide on a route in and out. It is a swamp and people have gotten lost in there and even some have lost their lives due to drowning. There are a lot of peat bogs out there and they can suck you down just like quicksand.


A couple of old sighting areas you might want to explore from 138 seeing as how you are familiar with that road are 1) directly across from the Raynham Dog track, there is a truck terminal. You cant miss it. Alot of trailers are visible from 138. Behind all the trailers, you can make out an old abandon building. It is the old cement plant and there supposedly was a bigfoot sighting along the dirt road heading out to it years ago. With the truck terminal there now, I seriously doubt there is any activity but exploring the abandon building will probably test your nerve. A corspe was found in that building a few years back that was pretty gruesomly cut up. They think somebody just dumped it there that came off the highway. A John Doe if I remember correctly... never solved.
2) The power lines you mentioned, if you head west from 138 down the power lines. you will eventually come to the abandon old colony railroad grade. Follow the railroad grade south so that you will end up behind the Dog track. A lot of 17" footprints were discovered there after a snowstorm back in 91 or 92. Plus as you'll read in mysterious america, that is where a lot of spook lights as they were called in the book, I believe the proper term for them now is Orbs, were reported. I also seem to remember that one of the dog handlers, (the kennels are back there close to the old railroad tracks) heard the typical Bigfoot screams coming from the woods by the railroad tracks one summer evening while he was tending some dogs after the races.

But the best exploration has to be done from a canoe. From 138, get on rt. 106 east and you will come to the hockomock river crossing pretty quickly, there is parking available. Put you canoe in there and paddle your way to the Nip. You'll have to make a lot of portages but this is the time of year to do it, while the water level is still high. This is the section of river that the boston globe article reported about the muskrat trapper being followed by Bigfoot. This also the part of the river that has the Indian burial ground mentioned in Mysterious America.

Good luck!

The Hock (as in Hockomock) Hunter.

Hock-Hunter--

way ahead of you-- both Sasquelvis and I have already read the Mysterious America section on the HM, plus did one short survey of the areas you described (walked the power lines east, swung around and came out behind the truck terminal (subdivision), then walked the power lines west, followed RR grade to the dog track.)

we are also already looking into getting a boat, want to check out the area from the lake, then from the river (looks like two possible rivers to navigate-- see this link for aerial photos and topos:
http://www.terraserver.microsoft.com/image...y=1452&z=19&w=1

you can zoom in and out- switch to photo or topo, very handy)


SASQUELVIS--

if you read this today (Sunday) i woke up late, gonna head down there late too, maybe still hit the flea market, then swing by yer place. cool weather means fewer bugs.

--Y_R

A swamp, huh? A few suggested items:

1) A good GPS unit, and be very familiar with how it works.

2) A cajun-style pirogue. I've built several - they're cheap, simple, and they go anywhere. Here's some info: Cajun Secret

3) A good digital/still camera combo.

4) A very good machete, and keep it sharp.

5) A large canteen of fresh, cool water.

6) Mosquito dope.

7) A .22LR automatic sidearm, preferably the Smith & Wesson 22A. Fantastic and accurate. See here.

I grew up around a swamp. They're fun to explore, and there's always something new around the next bend. Not to mention a dozen more cottonmouths.

Hey Welby,

Although your list does make perfect sense for treking through a swamp. This is in Massachusetts and it would not be the wisest of ideas to be walking around with a 22 caliber sidearm and a machete. The police don't look too favorably on it around those there parts. Then if you try to explain that you are only Bigfoot Hunting..............

Hock, I take it you have done some time out there... I'm gonna set up some bait out there, and monitor just for foot prints, etc. Likely a bag hanging high in a tree (high = 7-8 feet)

thoughts......

I've done my share, Upland bird hunting, deer hunting, both archery and shotgun. a lot of fishing, and a of course a couple expeditions where I was looking specifically for BF evidence. I found some interesting things that some might consider evidence but being a skeptic, I can easily see other possibilities for an explanation as well. I refer to bedding areas, tree twists, tree snaps, two crude little shelters made from limbs, stacked rocks, once I even found a bare footprint, it was only about 9" long though. (Although I was deep into the swamp, I was within 10 feet of the Hockomock river. strange place for a footprint, yes, but I figured somebody exited a canoe or kayak to answer natures call maybe. )



Regarding your baiting excersize. Go deep into the swamp as far away from the trails as you possibly but safely can get, hang your bait, I would say 8 feet high is probably good enough. (I don't think they get to be 8 ft tall around there if they exist at all. My feeling is it is probably more like the Florida skunk ape, then the Pacific Northwest giants.) But you do want it out of the reach of the whitetails. Make sure you clear a good 10x 10 square underneath your bait, Make sure the soil is good and lose, test it by leaving you own prints. If you can see your prints then you will see other prints. remove you prints and check it in a couple of days. What do you plan on using for bait? Fruit? Salt Lick? Meat? (Chose something that the birds won't clean you out on)

Good Luck and let me know your results.

HOCKHUNTER -
Do you have an idea on a good locale, or way in? I know a few but they don't seem to be far enough away from trails, people, etc.
Where did you see that questionable footprint?

Bait will be apples, garlic, maybe some bacon

Actually, I have a few ideas, anywhere to the WEST of the abandon railroad bed. Make sure you get at least 200 yards out from the bed if not more. The idea is to make it too much of hassle for someone to just happen upon it but not to much of hassle that you cant get out to it either. Anywhere to the SOUTH of the Power Lines, use same method as above. If you are familiar with the area behind the Nip, there is an old access road out there, you can get in on it from Hall Street and it runs right to the power line right of way and beyond. Anywhere off of that as long as your far enough away from the access route, follow a game trail into the swamp/woods and then leave the game trail to set your bait. (Following game trails especially whitetail trails is your best bet, They know that area and the passages through the swamp better than any person could).




It was on the western bank of the Hockomock River just north of where it joins with the Town River. (look at a topo map and you'll see the general area.)



Hell I would do all three in seperate bags in same bait area. (Whitetails love apples.) so you should see some of their tracks for sure.

Garlic, I don't know of too many animals that are fond of that. (Although I just read on another board that Janice Coy got her sasquatch hairs from Fox when he came knocking at the back door asking for Garlic, I kid you not) , (Check out 50 years update thread on this board if you don't know what I'm talking about).

Bacon, interesting, Im sure it will get the coy dogs attention.

Well good luck and as I said let me know the results. take some pics. (before and afters).

Hockhunter, you do have a point. The South is much more laid back about such things. I guess it would make the Yanks a little nervous. (No offense to any Yanks.)

Let me add one more thing to my list: a PIR-activated game camera. Or as many as you can afford to purchase and use.

WELBY--

the problem with the guns in this particular area is that it's pretty well populated. when Sasquelvis and I checked out the area we came out of the woods on a trail that led into a subdivision/housing devellopment. plus, with it's proximity to the city of Brockton (which has had a very violent last few of years, like a murder every week during the summer) it would definately draw attention walking around with a rifle. i think we could get away with a handgun, but we probably wont bother. if this were rural Maine or VT or NH we could probably walk around armed no problem, but eastern Mass is pretty heavily populated.

THAT SAID, the HM swamp is ridiculously dense, spread out, and un-friendly to foot traffic. though i doubetd that there could be unknown hominids there, i became willing to believe after walking through. PLUS there have been sightings over the years which match everything we know about Sasquatch, so perhaps its "trapped" there thanks to encroaching development.

HOCKHUNTER--

we were gonna put the bait to the East of 138, in that area behind (WAY behind) the trucking depot. i understand your recommendation and think you're probably right, but we need a spot where we can get in and check it easily at least once a week, especially if there's a rainstorm coming that might wipe out any tracks. Sasquelvis lives nearby, but has lots of other responsibilites, maybe no time to check the "trap", and i live in Boston, cant just boogie on down there after work and have enough daylight to get in and out safely. that area off the railroad grade is not too convenient, but maybe we could park at the dog track and head in on mountain bikes or something. that area had a bunch of dirt bikers runnin through it last time we were there. so i'm concerned that it might have too much of a human presence. perhaps we will try two or more "traps"-- if we get any hits, we'll move up to camera traps.

i was the one who recomended garlic, mainly because of aroma. i wanted foodstuffs that would carry on the wind and would be unfamiliar enough to a squatch to grab his interest (hence bacon also). apples were the obvious choice because of the BFRO using them in the past, but if you have any other foods that might work, we'll try 'em.

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perhaps we should move this thread to another board (independent research?) since it doesnt deal with sightings (yet.)

Maybe you should add some bulbs of garlic as bait.

Saturday, May 22, 2004

I've been to Hockamock swamp very late at night several times alone...heard some strange loud screeches but that's it so far. (I think it may have been an Owl) It seems too thickly populated to host any BF's there, but you never know...

Also, someone has been threading very long strands of yarn along the tall grass heading into the swamp area. I found these along the powerline trails during a day trip. There were several places where something had "broken through" the yarn and headed into the swamp (probably just deer). Can anyone figure a purpose for stringing yarn along the perimeter of the swamp like that? Could it be deer hunters looking for patterns? Occultists doing some kind of odd ritual? Or maybe even BF researchers looking for travel patterns?

I'm definitely interested in any group effort to research the Hockamock area. Please include me in whatever you may be planning.

Alias "Davis Thomas King"
North Western/Central Massachusetts.

Sasqelvis, Yeti_Research and Hockhunter,

Are you and your friends open to allowing new locals join your research ventures in Hocamock. I've been their myself several times (both day and night) and would enjoy meeting others who are actively pursuing BF penomenon there. Get back to me when you can and let me know. I'm axious to do some more research there.

Here's my Bio...

My Bigfoot Biography

I’m brand new to the Forum and I’m still “learning the ropes,” so thanks for your patience. I'm joining the Bigfoot Forum using the "alias" name [David Thomas King] because I am a public figure in my area of Massachusetts. (I’m the pastor of a local church, and have a weekly television talk-show in several cities here. Many folks in this area know who I am) Unfortunately, those of us in Massachusetts who believe in Bigfoot are often looked at as nuts and weirdoes. (It’s not as open here to this subject as it is in the Southern States and in the Western States.) I'm not at the point where I'm ready to sacrifice my public credibility for my favorite side-hobby, which is Sasquatch researching. Maybe someday I’ll “come out of the closet” so to speak. But for now, you can just call me “David.”

I’ve been fascinated by Bigfoot stories since I was a kid. I remember scary stories told around the campfire at youth camp, and Leonard Niemoy hosting “In Search of…” And seeing the terrifying theater release of the Legend of Sasquatch…(I don’t know how many remember that...)

Bigfoot research has become a serious hobby of mine since 1999. During the last three months of 2000, I traveled across the U.S.A. researching 22 Bigfoot encounter locations starting with Yosemite Natl. park, CA; Pit River, CA; Hayfork, CA; Willow Creek, CA; Orick, CA; Six Rivers, CA; several Redwood Forest sighting areas near Crescent City, CA; The Oregon Caves Natl. Monument, OR; Skookum Lake, OR; Mount Hood, OR; Walla Walla, WA; and Yellowstone Natl. Park (The road to Cody) WY.

In New England, I have undertaken more recent research trips to North Adams, MA; Florida, MA; October Mt. State Forest, MA; Troy, NH; Marlborough, NH; Mt. Monadnock, NH; Hockamock Swamp, MA; “Activity,” NH; Erving and Wendell State forests, MA; Winsdor, Ct; Thompson, CT and many other local sighting areas in North Eastern/Central Massachusetts. I plan many more trips throughout the U.S.A. and New England in the future.

I’m married and have one daughter who is now 9.

This forum is fantastic and I’m glad to now be a new member.

Thanks in advance for warmly welcoming me.

For now, alias: “David Thomas King”

Saturday, May 22, 2004

Out of curiosity Dave, what were you looking for in Windsor and Thompson, these are closer to me.

[Ganglian,

My fault. I went to Winsted, CT, not Winsdor. (But I also went to s sighting area in Winsdor, MA)

Anyway, I was in search of evidence of the “Winsted Wild Man.” Reports from that region have been coming in since August of 1895. It (or one of its relatives) showed up again on July 24th, of 1972 when 2 teens spotted him near Crystal Lake Reservoir, off of Winchester Road. They witnessed it for 45 minutes and described it as being eight foot in height. On September, 27th, 1974, another sighting was reported. Four individuals flagged down an officer (Officer George Corso) and described an 6 foot tall, 300 pound hairy biped with dark hair which had stepped out of the woods and walked directly toward their vehicle. This occured near Rugg Brook Reservoir.

The following report was first given to me by a Mr. John Horrigan. I have seen several versions of it on various sites, all pretty much the same. There are a few variations in this one, but I have investigated this old railway but ran out of light before I came to the sighting area. Subsequently I had to walk back in the dark. But this sight does exist (Hard to find) but I believe this lady had a true sighting.

This following in Thompson, CT....

On the old Providence Worcester rail-line, now a riding, biking trail. Labor Day weekend, 1997.

I was riding my geriatric quarter horse mare on a trail about 5 miles from where I live. It was a very warm day and since there was a clean stream (rare for CT) off the trail I decided to let her drink and splash around a bit. I was watching some little fish in the stream when I noticed a footprint on the bank.

My first reaction was, who is walking barefoot around here?! Then the size hit me, huge, nearly twice as big as my size 8 riding boot. That really made me nervous. At the same time, my horse, who was absolutely bomb proof, started getting antsy. She was an angel and anyone could ride her. I adored her and to this day I miss her. She was my first horse, but not my last. Now I have a Morgan and board an Arabian mare but that is another story.

At this point I thought okay time to go, I don't want to meet the person with the size 20 shoes who is running around these woods barefoot. Just as I turned my horse back to the trail, "The smell" hit me. it was foul, and skunk-like with an over tone of wet dog and burned garlic. I actually gagged it was so bad. At this point my horse was on the verge of bolting, mind you, this was a 20-year-old mare with severe navicular decease and arthritis.

She took off like she was shot out of a cannon. Right then all hell broke loose! There was a hill on my right and this thing came down the hill. It sounded like a bull elephant IN full charge! Trees were breaking, it was screaming and I could hear it running. The screams reverberated in my chest and hurt my ears! I rounded a corner on the trail with my horse in full bolt and me hanging on for dear life, literally, and finally saw what was chasing me!

It was very tall, dark hair, incredibly fast, looked like a cross between a man and a gorilla. Maybe 400-500 pounds, I was terrified! It paralleled me for about 50 yards then veered off back towards the hill, continuing to scream at me for another 10 minutes. I didn't stop till I found the highway and home.

I have been mugged, and was not as scared as I was that day. This is why I became a bigfoot researcher and learned about these very interesting creatures. Looking back, I realize he was probably just bluffing, like gorillas bluff. But back in 1997 I thought I was dead. My horse never really recovered and died a short while later.

I have been back to the spot twice, there are territorial markers everywhere and occasionally I get the “being watched” feeling when I go into that area. I have had trouble with something spooking my horses at night, and chickens have regularly disappeared from a locked hen house. Is it bigfoot? Who knows? I hear something walling at night in the springtime usually.

So, maybe we do have a viable breeding population of bigfoot in the Northeast.

P.N.
Thompson, CT
Received July 2003


Hope this answers your questions Ganglian....

David Thomas King

Welcome to the BFF, Mr. "King". I'm still relatively new here as well, but I hope you enjoy it as much as I have and find everyone as wonderful as I have so far.

I'm more of an open-minded but candidly curious skeptic. They tolerate me fairly well here.

WOW!

thats a pretty scary story dtk. thanks for sharing, and welcome to the bff....

gael

Thanks Welby,

So far, people here have been real nice. Looking forward to meeting more Bigfoot enthusiasts, and even curious skeptics as yourself.

I appreciate the warm welcome!

David Thomas King

--David Thomas King

NICE ICON!! i was shocked that you mentioned Windsor CT. (My hometown!!)-- it's pretty developed and next door to Hartford. then i read down to the next posts and saw you meant WINSTED which is far more rural.

QUOTE:
(It’s not as open here to this subject as it is in the Southern States and in the Western States.)"

-- i think this is because there are more sightings in those areas, thus everybody knows someone who's seen BF-related weirdness.

Sasquelvis and I are new to the whole BF-field research thing actually. We've been interested for a few years now, but only just started on the physical search aspect. the problem has been finding a good time to get into the swamp and do some hunting. sounds like you're more experienced than us!!

INTERESTING IDEA:

the Appalachian Trail (AT) runs through western CT, MA, and into VT, etc., and there have been noted sightings in new england in Kent CT., October Mt. MA., and recently (last OCT.) Glastenbury VT. this provides an ample "highway" for BF to move, though they likely avoid the trail itself, due to the abundance of human traffic. i theorize that sightings along this axis are possibly the same beast. REMEMBER: all of the northeast was clear-cut in the late 1800's, much of it turned to farmland (you can be walking on a trail along a 3000 ft forested ridge, and suddenly come across a stone wall!), but has since returned to forest. the clear-cutting would have forced BFs out of the area, into Canada, NY, PA. etc. probably only returning in the last 50 years.

on another note:
i just got back from a quick 2-day trip to Glastenbury Mt. VT. it's part of the Green MT. National Forest, so it's a HUGE area. i did a 15 mile hike, didnt see anything (didnt really expect to) heard some "thumping" at one point, but may have been human in origin (hard to tell, not like anything i heard before). to really do this area justice would require either a large concerted effort, or at least some automatic cameras that would only need to be checked occasionally (once every two months?) like the kind they use to catch poachers in malaysia.

liebling,

Thank you too for the warm welcome.

David Thomas King

Yeti,

We have to talk! I’ve been eyeing the AT for some time now. We should put our minds together and develop some kind of systematic strategy for research in New England.

You’re right about the stripped land thing, (I live just one mile from the Harvard Forest reforesting museum and experiment facility), but I’m finding increasing evidence that these creatures are moving CLOSER to populated areas, NOT further away!

(A seven footer was seen recently sifting through a dumpster Near Woods Hole, MA! I checked it out myself, it’s a densely populated area, but it’s next to an extremely large (restricted) but REFORESTED military base! This just one of many recent New England sightings I have catalogued to confirm this alarming trend!)

This is also one of the many questions I want answered! Why are these creatures coming closer to civilization? And how the heck are getting around these major highways without being spotted or killed? Some may have been “trapped” here from years past, as civilization encroached upon them, but certianly not all of them.

I’m deeply convicted that there are more of these creatures moving in and out of rural areas than most people think. They are very skilled at evading human presence, but they’re here! That’s why they have been dubbed, “The Watchers” in the Northeast. They watch our patterns and work nocturnally around them, being very careful not to leave any trace evidence behind.

These are not simple bears we are dealing with here, these are rational, thinking beings, able to calculate their moves well in advance and able to use skillfully developed stealth tactics to evade detection. As Old Smoky Robinson says, “They always use the creeks…” These things know what they’re doing, and they do it well!

VT sounds like a very good place to do some serious research. Let talk some more about it soon!

You got a good mountain bike?

David Thomas King
Monday, May 24, 2004

I thought his name was Crabtree...?

Dave,

As I stated in a previous post, I spent a lot of days hiking the Long Trail in my youth and didn't come across anything in the trail logs (notebooks left at some camp sites) about any BF type creatures.

Now this was some 20 years ago, things may have changed since then with the encroachment of society on the trail.

Another section of VT to check out in the Northeast Kingdom (lots of woods) and northern NH. The NEK has a least one sighting in East Haven, IIRC. The northern White Mountains are still pretty desolate, despite the camping and skiing.

IMHO, ski areas would make great summer habitat; normally there's water available in springs and small rivers and all the high meadow flora that grow in the trails, should be good eats in itself, draws other fauna. Plus, not a lot of human activity in the summer. I know from personal experience, cutting brush and rehab'ing trails, that deer frequent this environment.

Sasquelvis,

My bad. You're right, it's Crabtree...Not that country western singer guy...

David

Thanks for the tips Enkidu!

David Thomas King

David Thomas King wrote:



Hello David,

I have this report as well as a couple of other Cape Cod sightings, Yes all sightings are within the vicinity of the Otis Air Force base military reservation you speak of, The big problem I have with these reports is that Cape Cod is cut off from the mainland with the exception of three bridges. Two auto bridges and one train bridge which is constantly 200 feet in the air unless a train is using it. How do you suspect that bigfoot's getting over to the cape? taking the bourne bridge? I am a skeptic as I said in an earlier post and the cape cod reports are in my opinion, hoaxes and misidentifications.

Hockomock Swamp on the other hand still has wooded and very rurual access routes in and out of it.

Hock--

if coyotes can repopulate the cape via the bridges, certainly a BF could do it, no? Plus-- who's to say they can't swim the channel? BFs seem to be strong enough to accomplish anything short of flying. (just playing devil's advocate here.) a nantucket or vineyard sighting i would certainly disbelieve.

DTK (Dave)--

moving closer to humanity... hmmmm.... i am doubtful, but you and others have posed that idea to me. a friend of mine in NYC sent me a link once about a sighting on Staten Island (?!!)-- apparently there's a small nature preserve there, adjacent to a landfill, the BF was supposedly feeding off the landfill's many morsels. still, i am doubtful.

as for the AT-- i've hiked most of it in New England (except for southern ME. and MTs Washington and Adams-- saving those for when i do the whole thing end-to-end). never seen anything, but have felt "creeped out" a few times, most recently two years ago about 10 miles south of the Mass Pike (Mt Wilcox lean-to i think?) HOWEVER, being "creeped-out" is completely subjective: it was a cold night, i was alone, etc. i didnt hear or see anything strange.) i have met thru-hikers who've related UFO-type things they've seen, but never BF tales. i am tempted to post a BF query on a Thru-hiker message board (a friend of mine runs Thru-hiker.com, but if i post there he'll give me a hard time: non-believer) but fear it'll generate a lot of crank posts ("yeah, i seen one of them Bigfoot-creatures, it was in a men's room on the new jersey turnpike" etc.)

the problem with the AT (and LT) in new England= we're talking about a vast area here. just the Green Mt. Nat'l Forest (GMNF) alone is huge, not counting the private forest areas adjacent to it.

http://www.terraserver.microsoft.com/image...&y=371&z=18&w=1

(Like Mt Snow ski area for example). this is New England, not the Pacific NW where presumably BFs are in greater abundance. to do anywhere in NE justice would mean keeping an eye on local papers for recent reports, and then IMMEDIATELY organizing an expedition of at least a long weekend. i wish i had jumped on it last year when the Bennington Banner reported the BF sighting near Glastenbury, but still, i am just one man with one weekend to burn in 1000's of square miles of forest; my chances are better playing the lottery. i am willing to entertain a handful of BFs in new england (breeding population) but NE is a huge area. MY POINT-- i want to concentrate on the HM swamp for now. my trip to VT this weekend was mainly a weekend vacation, trying out some new gear, checking out a side trail i've never hiked, getting away from humans (failed on that note anyway.)

Funny note: the trail register on Glastenbury Mt. had the bennington banner BF clipping inside. the sighting was completely discounted by the local police chief: "he saw a bear or a moose, your mind can play tricks on you." to which i reply: have you ever looked at a cow and thought it was a horse? of course not, but you want us to believe a lifelong VT resident doesnt know a MOOSE when he sees it? sounds like you're bending over backwards to deny the sighting.

SASQUELVIS--

nice icon. you a Damon Disciple? too bad he finally shaved on friday.

per your mention of the Appliachian Trail, there was not too long ago a post regarding referencing BF sightings against old indian trails, I wonder how that that would match up to the AT, if any old trails cross paths with it under interesting circumstances, ie: a sighting.

Anyone have any info on that?

Hockhunter,

Initially, I had the same hesitations you did over recent (and past) reports of Cape Cod sightings. But after investigating several of these sighting areas personally, I’m not so sure these reported encounters should be written off so quickly as hoaxes or misidentifications.

First off, I drove over both of the bridges you described when researching these locations. The stretch of water these bridges span didn't look like the “Grand anyon” to me. I would even venture to say that the water there could be easily traversed at certain times of the year, assuming that these BF creatures know how to swim. (And I’m sure you’d agree that there is much evidence to support bigfoot’s swimming ability.)

As for the military base, Woods Hole and Barnstable locations etc., the forest coverage there is HUGE! (Check out the Topo aerial shots--PLENTY of habitat and food sources for mammals of such significant size.) If bear can successfully live and breed in Cape Cod, so could a small family of Bigfoot---in spite of the fact that humans so significantly populate the area.

(I now have to admit that this is probably also true for the Hockamock Swamp region. I have visited the area several times during the day and night and until recently, thought the area was too small to host livable Sasquatch habitat. But after looking at the aerial/topo photos the other night….the swamp region is MUCH bigger than I thought!)

Anyway, the point I was trying to make was that incidences involving tall, hairy bipeds, peering through people’s backyard windows are on the rise. Just study the sighting databases of some of the larger Bigfoot websites and you’ll find this to be true. In small towns and even in some larger cities around New England, more and more people are spotting Bigfoot-like creatures right in their own backyards. The same is true in many other growing communities and suburbs throughout North America.

I agree that good percentage of these backyard sightings may be nothing more than hoaxes and misidentifications--but even if only five percent of these backyard encounters turn out to be “the real deal,” then my hypothesis is correct. Either society is increasingly encroaching upon Sasquatch territory, or these creatures are becoming “humanized” and are now less fearful of living around mankind and his noisy technology. My concern is that both of these scenarios are true! And if I’m right, this trend could result in the eventual discovery (and even demise) of this rare and precious species.

On a more positive note, if mankind does what’s right in the face of such a discovery, it could lead to the protection of these “yet-to-be-catalogued” wood apes and keep them off our ever-growing endangered species list!

Wow! Think about it…if these amazing creatures are attempting to live and move around our rural communities without being detected, I predict that it won’t be long before one of these backyard encounters yields undeniable proof of this creature’s existence. I also suspect it will happen in our lifetime.

Anyway, Hock, that’s my view of things as they currently stand.

I now yield the remainder of my time to my honorable colleagues and all my respectable dissenters….

David Thomas King

Yeti

I agree with you about concentrating on the Hockamock Area. Are you far from it? I'm about 1 1/2 hrs.

David Thomas King

Yeti

I agree with you about concentrating on the Hockamock Area. Are you far from it? I'm about 1 1/2 hrs.

David Thomas King

I'm a little further than that, but DEFINATELY up for it.

Now's the time before the skeeters multiply! When do you propose trecking into Hockamock?

David Thomas King

To DTK, Yeti, Sasquelvis, and Whomever else interested in going into the Hockomck swamp.
This link is a few months old now but just in case you missed it, just a heads up about what can happen out there. Even the rescuers had to be rescued in this case.

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional...id=3251&format=

Especially DTK, you mentioned that you go out there at night and your relatively new to the area to boot.

Sasquelvis, Have you done any bait traps yet?

Hock

couldnt get that link to work. . . . tried cut-n-paste too. sounds hairy though.

sasquelvis and i have been to busy with our other hobbies, we keep trying to link up but the schedules conflict. no bait traps yet, gonna try to do at least 2 i think, in two seperate areas.

after the bait traps we'd like to do some more surveying but it seems like the most effective way might be to grab a machete, put on waders, and criss cross the whole area one section at a time. i dont think we'll do that (it's obviously insane). hopefully we'll get a canoe and check it out from the waterways.

DTK--

i'm about 40 minutes away or so.


--Y_R

Swamp bait program has begun.

SASQUELVIS--

i'm gonna check the bait this sunday. if my shopping trip lasts long enough perhaps we can do another bait drop on the other side of 138.

ALSO--

i'm looking into getting a canoe (after that last trip the river looks real promising). BUT, can i store it at your place?

Sasquelvis Posted on Jun 23 2004, 02:29 PM


yeti_research Posted on Jun 24 2004, 09:02 PM


So I guess by your silence the bait trap was a bust! Thats too bad!
Just curious if you recorded any type of wildlife tracks in your bait trap.
Where did you place it? What bait did you end up using? Did you try again or give up after the initial try.

What happened to DTK, seems to have fallen of the face of the earth.
I was down in Mashpee/Falmouth RT. 151 area this weekend, no BF's and none swimming across the canal that I saw.

Here's a good web site that has web cams on each end of the canal. It gives really nice panoramic shots every 30 minutes. I guess BF knows to make his swim between updates. (just joshing with a you a little bit) cool website, check it out and use the pan buttons.
http://www.telecamsystems.com/capecodcanal/

HH

thus far a bust..
Only one location, I'll keep it to my self for now
Apples, rotting meat, garlic
no cool tracks, deer, etc..
Any suggestions?
Location, location, location

Will try again soon

Welby
Been in any La swamps? Ever see any signs in any swamps?

I know this is sort of an old topic but I just wanted to share some photos with you.
i was at this location the other night and I was creeped the hell out.
I drive by here Every Single night and I had no idea of it's history.
I recently moved to Raynham and I commute from Raynham to Boston Via 138 and then I hop onto rt. 24 in West Bridgewater.
Anyow no Bigfoot sightings but here are some photos I wanted to share.

Greg in Raynham.
Another question I have are where are the railroad tracks ?
I would like to explore this coming Saturday or the Saturday After.
Any suggestions are appreciated.

Greg








Is it just me or is there something looking at me in the window ? ? ? ? ?

I was there a few months ago. Had business near Providence, so my girlfriend, my dog and I made a little impromptu visit to the swamp. We drove behind the dogtrack and parked in a truckyard. We started hiking down a trail and then we cut off the trail and went directly into the swamp. We weren't really dressed for it, but who cares about a little mud, up to your thighs. I was making great time, but I had to keep waiting for my gf. She seriously slowed me down. Then we got lost in the middle of the swamp. We started following the p.a. system from the dogtrack and that got us back on course and out of there.

Nothing unusual at all was observed. But that place is HUGE!

I'd like to spend a whole day there with the proper dress and equipment.

From everything I've read about that place, it sounds like "The Land Of The Lost"!

Wow, how NICE of you. :new_tiredsmiley:

hey friend wow these are great photos you posted here. this new thread about hockamock swamp is getting very interesting indeed. great histery of sasquatch activity from that swamp. please keep definetly updated ok. thanks bill :smile:

Seems this thread has kinda fallen off lately, but seeing as how spring is almost here, maybe we can revive it a bit. I too live in Mass. so anyone looking to get out in the upcoming months can drop a line here, and we can perhaps hook up for some trips. I plan on hitting October Mountain State Forest this year a few times, and would also like to take a look at the Hockamock area as well.



Corey

hey researchers this new info about activity etc in the hockamock swamp is realy interesting indeed. i hope more info is posted in this great thread. good evening bill

Been there several times T both during day and several all-night excursions. (Pretty eerie at night, did hear some strange vocalizations, but nothing that could not be explained in nature). I've gone in from behind the racetrack twice, the power-lines twice, from neighborhood access points twice. Many thick areas. Watch out for the the mud in places, especially the ATV trails, you could actually get stuck it's so deep in places and no one would find you. Look at the Satellite overheads, you can spot the thickest areas easily. The problem is, it is surrounded by good size communities on all sides and of course the highways. (You can hear the cars night and day from every part of the swamp, with no exceptions. I don't see many free access points to and from the swamp. There's a spot near the end of the lake with more recent reports though. If there is any activity there, I found no evidence of it. If there ever was, it was most likely pass-through IMO. Triangle rock and some of those areas might be better suited for field research due to their interconnectivity etc. Myles Standish (Sp?) may even be habitable. Again JMO. Hope all is well with you....

Kerry

P.S. At the end of the road along the lake, there's a tail that leads to a sand pit where a teen supposedly had a sighting. ATV trails from there lead into thick areas of the swamp. Best to go when it's cold, easier to walk and avoid mud-traps.