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magikern
I read a good post at the BFRO board. Someone mentioned that very few primates and definately none of the the greater apes or bigger monkeys have reflective eyes like cats have.

Yet many BF reports seem to indicate that we are dealing with a nocturnal animal with reflective eyes.

What do you believe?
Wolf
Howdy!

Not sure I understand your question.

As far as I am aware, all eyes reflect light to a greater and lesser degree (and color -- eyeshine); for instance the red-eye effect in flash photography.

What do you mean by night vision -- the enhanced ability for the eyes to gather more usable light, or a preternatural ability to see "differently" in the dark?
micahn
I personally feel that they would adapt to it. I am sure that they can tell we are day time beings and if they want to hide from us the best way do to do is to be active at night. I would say that they started out as day light animals themselves and changed their ways long ago to best avoid humans.

I go along with the Gigantopithecus theory myself as what they are. I would say way back when that they learned very fast that is was very dangerous to be seen by humans. After a few thousand years I am sure their eyes as well as other things have adapted to the night much better than we and other day light animals have.
It is believed that Gigantopithecus and humans lives with each other at one time (By that I mean lived at the same time and seen each other every now and then not "Lived with each other") and I would be willing to say had a few encounters with each other that did not turn out well. Humans chances are would have been fighting as a group and if Gigantopithecus acted a lot of Bigfoot of today they would have been alone of very few at one time. A lot like orangutans are now loners for the most part.
It would not take many encounters for them to learn that it was a bad thing for them. So they I feel anyway would have started changing their habits so they was less likely to encounter humans.

Every animal can adapt to different things depending on what and how they live. Even humans adapt to their environments some what. That is why humans look different different places. Their bodies over the years changed to best fit in where they was living. I am white, My ancestors as far as I can go back have always lived in northern climates. I live in Florida now and my skin stays darker than all my relatives up North and I hardly ever go outside. I spend most of my time right here in the house and only go out to go to doctors or the store or some family functions some times (Wifes family). Yet every time I do go up to Indiana and see some of my family they say how nice my tan is. I figure my body has adapted to living in Florida (32 years now) and stays darker to help keep me from getting sun burned when I do go out.
So if humans can adapt in a few years to where they are living. Then just maybe Bigfoot after a few thousand years could adapt to see well at night.

Worth some thought anyway :-)
Maximumcarnage
I believe that BF has evolved some type of night vision. Most Night reports have them taking off into the forest when discovered. Imagine a human doing that without some type of light. We'd probably trip over something and get injured, Yet this animal probably darts through the forest as if it were day time. Its Cautious. By now it has probably learned that roaming in the day time makes it vulnerable to being discovered. So its my guess that BF is more active in areas that are not very excessible to us in the day time and then when night falls it roams around more freely. I also think that maybe each BF has a different Circadian Rhythm and thats why some BF are seen in the day and others are observed at night. But hey those are just my thoughts on the subject.
magikern
Good points. Check out the BFRO expedition messageboard for some facts that may indicate that it´s unlikely that we are dealing with a mainly nocturnal animal.

The problems with the Gigantopithecus theory are "why did they travel so far in the first place?" and why are no remains of them in northeaster russia? Why do the reports from china and eastern russia indicate a bipedal himonid that seems to be a smaller and different animal then the american BF? etc....
micahn
QUOTE(magikern @ May 14 2004, 11:53 PM)
Good points. Check out the BFRO expedition messageboard for some facts that may indicate that it´s unlikely that we are dealing with a mainly nocturnal animal.

The problems with the Gigantopithecus theory are "why did they travel so far in the first place?" and why are no remains of them in northeaster russia? Why do the reports from china and eastern russia indicate a bipedal himonid that seems to be a smaller and different animal then the american BF? etc....

Maybe it is just because it is late here and I am tired. But are you saying that Gigantopithecus was not a real thing ? Every thing I have read on it they think it was around 10 feet tall and around 1200 lbs. If you think that is smaller than the American Bigfoot then just how big do you think Bigfoot is ? If your not sure just what Gigantopithecus is here is a link. http://www.wynja.com/arch/gigantopithecus.html
I have not that I remember seen just what the range of the Gigantopithecus was. I will try to remember to see if I can find anything on that tomorrow. However they know many things including humans crossed over the baring straight in the last ice age why not Gigantopithecus ?

You also said that no fossil has been found of them in North east Russia. Well no fossils of Bigfoot has been found any place that I know of. If they had chances are this forum would not even be here as it would be a known animal :-)

I do not want to steal this post away from the topic so maybe I will start a new one tomorrow on the Gigantopithecus theory and see what others have to add on the subject :-)
magikern
Did humans really walk all the way from Nepal to Northamerica?

There are not much remains of Gigantopithecus in the first place so we cannot really make any conclusions at this point.
Huntster
QUOTE(magikern @ May 14 2004, 11:53 PM)
why are no remains of them in northeaster russia?

I'm continually amazed at the power of the mass media and the limits of the human mind.

Just a couple PIECES of jawbone, and a handful of teeth ("radiocarboned" at "thousands of years ago") have "solidly" established Gigantopithicus, yet thousands of footprints in the mud (complete with dermal signatures), the PG film, and hundreds of hair samples that can't be matched isn't enough to convince the SAME "experts" that the THE SAME GIGANTOPITHICUS is still out there TODAY.

Siberia? Name ONE anthropologist who has dug a SINGLE HOLE THERE.

The answer is NONE (at least that you know of; MAYBE a Russian or two has, and I doubt that; the Kamchatka Peninsula has been closed to EVERYBODY except Soviet soldiers for a long human lifetime). And even if they did, I doubt they'd even find a dozen more teeth, and no more jawbone.

Yet the "experts" spend time and money on Discovery Specials indoctrinating people on their "theories".

Rubbish.
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