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tarran
On Apr 18, 2004, at 9:43 AM, joebeelart@cs.com wrote:

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The alleged Long tactic of using telephone conversations as primary
> source
> material is very offensive to me.
>
> While I don't know Washington law at all. However, I believe that if a
> person
> records telephone conversations in Oregon without the explicit prior
> consent
> of the other party, that person could be in big, big troubles. May such
> troubles fall on those who deserve them most.

> Does anyone know about such a law in Washington?
>
> Joe Beelart
> West Linn, Oregon


According to the " The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press":


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Twelve states require, under most circumstances, the consent of all
parties to a conversation. Those jurisdictions are California,
Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan,
Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington. Be aware
that you will sometimes hear these referred to inaccurately as
"two-party consent" laws. If there are more than two people involved in
the conversation, all must consent to the taping.

  Regardless of the state, it is almost always illegal to record a
conversation to which you are not a party, do not have consent to tape,
and could not naturally overhear.

  Federal law and most state laws also make it illegal to disclose the
contents of an illegally intercepted call or communication.



Mr. Long seems to be in violation of the law.

William "Guillermo" DeHollander
Ellensburg WA

Hmmmmm........ Mr. Long, whats up with that!!?? unsure.gif :rolleyes: wink.gif
bipto
Do we know that Long recorded those interviews without consent?
J-Dawg
does BFF.com need another witch hunt thread?
tugboatwa
I'm going to ake a wild stab here, but as Long asked the permission of those he interviewed face-to-face, I am going to assume he also asked those he interviewed over the phone, also.

It's a none-issue, IMHO.
Fishbone35
QUOTE(J-Dawg @ Apr 18 2004, 04:26 PM)
does BFF.com need another witch hunt thread?

Not if it concerns Greg Long. There are enough threads to last that guy a lifetime already.

A couple of us mods have been begging Bipto to let us ban the next person who starts another thread about Greg Long & Co. instead of simply adding to one of the multitude that already pervade this board like toe jam but he's just such a nice guy that I don't think he's real keen on it. wink.gif
StacyInMI
QUOTE(Fishbone35 @ Apr 18 2004, 06:36 PM)
QUOTE(J-Dawg @ Apr 18 2004, 04:26 PM)
does BFF.com need another witch hunt thread?

Not if it concerns Greg Long. There are enough threads to last that guy a lifetime already.

Amen to that! yawn.gif
bf2004
I have to agree. There are way too many threads about Greg Long as it is, no need to add to them and give him more credit and credibility than he already (doesn't) have. Some of us here have been feeding the troll too much, and starting yet another thread about Long does no good at all. Even I am getting bored with all the Greg Long threads. Even poor Loren Coleman's list is being overrun with Greg Long posts. People, I know he's angering, but let's get back to the main focus of this board, which is Bigfoot. If you want to start your own "anti-Greg Long" forum, be our guest.
AnotherPullTab
:-) Im going to refrain from "I told you so"....

Stop feeding the troll, the troll dies. It is obvious that the man has no intention of addressing any questions posted here. Everyone is wasting entirely too much energy on Mr. L0ng. He has had ample amount of time to "speak his piece" as it were, so now all we are doing is allowing him to take the nastiest commentary towards him and use it to support his claim that he is being treated badly by the BF community. If he feels that way, we should do everything in our power to eliminate any negative light that might be shining so that he has no ammunition.

Just my .02... your mileage may vary.
bipto
OK, for the record, I think Long and his 'book' are appropriate topics for the forum (as were Mary Green and Jan Coy - there's a blast from the past, eh?). However, just as with the Green and Coy Follies, eventually we will run out of new stuff to say. I do think people who are just finishing the book should post their thoughts on it (this means you, Tug). I also think anything new Long happens to say or do is also fair game. Any new appearances on Rense, etc., are all OK to talk about in my book. In addition, there will be new people who will happen along the forum and wish to discuss it. We probably should not chew them a new one for bringing it up. wink.gif

Regarding this specific thread, I know there's speculation that Long did not ask for permission before recording his interviews. Until such time as someone who actually was interviewed by him sets the record straight one way or the other, all this is is speculation.

JMO.
tarran
QUOTE(Fishbone35 @ Apr 18 2004, 04:36 PM)
QUOTE(J-Dawg @ Apr 18 2004, 04:26 PM)
does BFF.com need another witch hunt thread?

Not if it concerns Greg Long. There are enough threads to last that guy a lifetime already.

A couple of us mods have been begging Bipto to let us ban the next person who starts another thread about Greg Long & Co. instead of simply adding to one of the multitude that already pervade this board like toe jam but he's just such a nice guy that I don't think he's real keen on it. wink.gif

Well then consider me banned!! I was just trying to share some information.
Sorry Bout that !! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Take Care and good luck in your endeavors!! thumbup.gif
Fishbone35
Hmmm...maybe I should have used about seventeen of these wink.gif instead of just the one. And tarran, if you're feeling like the shoe fits that's up to you. I didn't name any names at all.

Good luck in your endeavors too and if you're really bailing out, watch out for that door. wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif
GrandCherokee
*sigh*
SkunkHunter
QUOTE(bipto @ Apr 18 2004, 05:59 PM)
OK, for the record, I think Long and his 'book' are appropriate topics for the forum (as were Mary Green and Jan Coy - there's a blast from the past, eh?). However, just as with the Green and Coy Follies, eventually we will run out of new stuff to say. I do think people who are just finishing the book should post their thoughts on it (this means you, Tug). I also think anything new Long happens to say or do is also fair game. Any new appearances on Rense, etc., are all OK to talk about in my book. In addition, there will be new people who will happen along the forum and wish to discuss it. We probably should not chew them a new one for bringing it up. wink.gif

Regarding this specific thread, I know there's speculation that Long did not ask for permission before recording his interviews. Until such time as someone who actually was interviewed by him sets the record straight one way or the other, all this is is speculation.

JMO.

thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif :jack:

I don’t think the Long expressed has stopped rolling yet. This is new info, not stuff we already rehashed.

The Green/Coy book died its own natural death. This one will too in time. I can understand the aggravation of reading yet another post about Long that we have gone over about 500x. But this tidbit of info is new and certainly interesting to say the least. Unfortunately right now it is only hearsay. I personally would like to see what comes of it.

Come on, we all know that if MAry and co popped up again with some fantastic claim, we would be on it like bees on a buttercup.
JayleeD
I really think alot of people are just tired of the whole Greg Long thing. There's been some good information posted since he first stuck his snout in here, but really, we've all pretty much figured out that he's full of it, and his book is a bunch of horse pucky.

Until that time that there is new information to tear through, I say let's put it on the back burner and let it stew a while. Just give it time. I'm sure when the lime light is off him, he'll come up with something else. People like him can't stop with just one piece of junk.

Just my 2 pennies. smile.gif
Volsquatch
QUOTE(tarran @ Apr 19 2004, 08:01 AM)
QUOTE(Fishbone35 @ Apr 18 2004, 04:36 PM)
QUOTE(J-Dawg @ Apr 18 2004, 04:26 PM)
does BFF.com need another witch hunt thread?

Not if it concerns Greg Long. There are enough threads to last that guy a lifetime already.

A couple of us mods have been begging Bipto to let us ban the next person who starts another thread about Greg Long & Co. instead of simply adding to one of the multitude that already pervade this board like toe jam but he's just such a nice guy that I don't think he's real keen on it. wink.gif

Well then consider me banned!! I was just trying to share some information.
Sorry Bout that !! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Take Care and good luck in your endeavors!! thumbup.gif

Calm down Tarran. You have a lot of passion toward this subject, and that is to be commended. Do not let your emotions get the best of you. We all have a place and a purpose here. Most of us realize this eventually. Think it over, come to a mindset, and settle into a groove. There are more threads to contribute to. There will be more Longs pop up in the future, and they will need to be smacked down as well. Just as the MG/JC fiasco died it's natural death by their running underground in a cloud of exposed shame and embarrassment, so will this current round of GL/KK/BH nonsense. But, more will come out of the woodwork, it is inevitable. Who knows, next time the shysters might be relatively close to your area, and we'll need you to ride point. Let us be on guard, and at the ready. In the meantime, let's hone our interactive skills, and hit the field as much as possible to report new findings. Keep the faith Tarran, this subject is way too important to do otherwise. mellow.gif thumbup.gif
Screamer
QUOTE(Volsquatch @ Apr 18 2004, 09:59 PM)
Keep the faith Tarran, this subject is way too important to do otherwise. mellow.gif  thumbup.gif

Agreed. Though I have not always been fond of Loren Coleman, I shall quote him here...

"The testimony of the Patterson Film remains strong, despite years of challenges."

Very true words... The last fifty years has produced some of the strongest evidence related to the existence of the Sasquatch. One can only imagine what the next fifty will produce. I know I plan on being around waiting for the news to break, and I hope everyone else here will too.
tarran
QUOTE(Volsquatch @ Apr 18 2004, 09:59 PM)
QUOTE(tarran @ Apr 19 2004, 08:01 AM)
QUOTE(Fishbone35 @ Apr 18 2004, 04:36 PM)
QUOTE(J-Dawg @ Apr 18 2004, 04:26 PM)
does BFF.com need another witch hunt thread?

Not if it concerns Greg Long. There are enough threads to last that guy a lifetime already.

A couple of us mods have been begging Bipto to let us ban the next person who starts another thread about Greg Long & Co. instead of simply adding to one of the multitude that already pervade this board like toe jam but he's just such a nice guy that I don't think he's real keen on it. wink.gif

Well then consider me banned!! I was just trying to share some information.
Sorry Bout that !! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Take Care and good luck in your endeavors!! thumbup.gif

Calm down Tarran. You have a lot of passion toward this subject, and that is to be commended. Do not let your emotions get the best of you. We all have a place and a purpose here. Most of us realize this eventually. Think it over, come to a mindset, and settle into a groove. There are more threads to contribute to. There will be more Longs pop up in the future, and they will need to be smacked down as well. Just as the MG/JC fiasco died it's natural death by their running underground in a cloud of exposed shame and embarrassment, so will this current round of GL/KK/BH nonsense. But, more will come out of the woodwork, it is inevitable. Who knows, next time the shysters might be relatively close to your area, and we'll need you to ride point. Let us be on guard, and at the ready. In the meantime, let's hone our interactive skills, and hit the field as much as possible to report new findings. Keep the faith Tarran, this subject is way too important to do otherwise. mellow.gif thumbup.gif

You're right Vol. thumbup.gif I have calmed down now, I had a bad day yesterday an I overreacted!! sad.gif I really like this forum and the majority of the people here!!
I do see how The Greg Long Subject is running its course!! However, I did have good intentions, and was just trying to share some information. I'm going to do my best to back off Long for awhile, and try to control my emotions somewhat.
Thanks Vol!! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
GrandCherokee
Good to hear tarran!
We are all guilty of the same sin..
So we could all use a break equally! smile.gif
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