Borrowing from the does bigfoot exist topic, about eyewitnesses, the question for investigators is do a lot of people attempt to draw what they say they saw?
It seems seem like the majority of people would have sketches of it, at least scribbled or better.
Not suggesting that to everyone it would be such a moving experience that they would sit around and draw bigfoot and bigfoot shapes for days and weeks, but it seems that most people would make an attempt to show others in some type of rendering, what they saw, if they were interested in sharing it in the 1st place.
Do a lot of investigators come away from interviews with some type of sketch, which are simply not posted along with reports?
Would the person already having made some sketches make the common report more believable in any way?
Would it be of any use to have those interviewed to have them do their best to sketch what they saw?
Now that might be just the way I think since I have the ability to draw, but it just seems to me like a large number of sketches would go with reports, since most encounters are visual. I know if I saw it myself, I'd have a lot of drawings.

I had thought this before, especially ever since i read a very entertaining report from the alberta canada region on the bfro, which had sketches to go with it. The sketches really do the most to convince me that these guys had a real encounter. It seems this guy is as enthusiatstic about sharing what he saw with others as I would expect most to be.
The report is here.
bigfoot encounter


The sketches, while not van go, do far more to not only sell his story to me at least, but to paint the image of the ecounter, more so than do most well written accounts.

another sketch

3rd sketch

Actually, I did make a sketch on a small pad, to show my husband what I saw. I carried that pic in my purse for a couple years. I havent seen it in a good year now. I was pretty proud of myself with what I drew since I am not a good drawer. It was a pretty good rendering of what I saw. Since I cant find it anywhere I will draw another up and post it here.

Can't wait to see it, Angie.

I'd enjoy seeing it also.

Great thread, BarkleyAddict! enjoyed it alot!

Hey Bark: I see where your sketch post made Bobbie Short's newsletter. Congrats man.

These are some interesting drawings.

appreciate the comments, and stanpaw appreciate the mention, I didn't even know of bobby shorts letter, and now I'm signed up, her site is really exceptional also in my opinion.

Just thought I'd let Fish and Barkley know that I am trying to get my drawing into my computer. It took me days to draw it and after a lot of erasing, I have finally came up with a drawing that is similar to what I saw. I am not good at drawing at all so it was a task. I can still complain about many things in my drawing. Dont think I was too good at getting the musculature down and also I just couldnt get the right shoulder to look right. I think that is because of the angle of my view. Anyway, kind of hard to explain without the pic on here yet.

My scanner will scan the whole pic but when it is finished scanning then it only has a partial view of my pic. I played with the settings and I can choose "display item" or "display the whole board". When I click on "diplay item" it only gives me a partial view of my drawing. When I click "whole board" it doesnt give the image as clear and there is blotches on it. I really dont know what it is doing. Why would it not display the image as a whole? I was playing around with the view and settings and sizes and I just cant get it to work. If anyone has any ideas then let me know. I am not at all good with computers. Funny, since I spend so much time on it. I guess I just spend too much time researching BF and not enough time learning how to work my stuff properly.

Once I get the scanner thing worked out then I have to figure out how to post the damn thing. I still havent figured out how to post pics. Hopefully, Night will be nice enough to post it for me (hint, hint), like he did the last pic I posted.

I will keep on trying but after about 10 different scans tonight and after working my butt off at work today, I just cant take it anymore. I'll try again tomorrow.

If the witness has any insecurities about their ability to draw they probably won't even attempt to.

The person who provided the sketches above at least has some limited drawing ability.

Orygun, is that a good or a bad thing in your opinion?

Trying again

Oh my gosh! I did it! I did it! Looks like I still dont have the size thing right. In my programs, when I would resize it, it wouldnt tell me pixel size. Just like 3x5, 5x10, etc. I think I went with the 3x5 on this one. Ha! I cant believe I did it. I have only tried about 1000 times to post pics since I got on this forum. I guess I didnt have it in Jpeg form. It was a bmp.

Thanks Night for walking me through it.

Anyway, this is the best drawing I could do. I didn't have it darkened originally. In fact, my musculature was lightly penciled and the scanner wouldnt pick it up so I had to darken those and after that, it just looked silly so I decided to darken the hair in.

You will notice that I did not include hands and feet. That is because I didnt have the time or clear enough view to see those. I just took in everything else that you see. I'm sure I dont have the musculature down as well as it should be but you will notice that I did include quite a bit. That is because I did see the individual muscle groups in the shoulder, arms, back, buttocks and legs. I just couldnt get the right shoulder to look right. I think that is because of the angle that I had on the BF. I stuck to my memory of what I saw and the shoulder just doesnt look right since I am not the best drawer. So, anyway, I at least got this to work. Sorry it took so long. If only you knew what I have been going thru to get this to work.

Whoa, Angie. That guy (or gal) was ripped.

-Vern

Yeah Vern! He certainly was very well muscled. That is one of the things that I was struck with from the sighting. I also believe that it was a male because of the resemblance to human males. I actually had a 3/4 view of him because of the angle I was coming around the curve and the angle he was going into the woods. From the angle that I could see of its chest and stomach, they were also well muscled, with no belly. I only had a slight angle of that. He was definitely well proportioned. Not like you see some body builders where they are bigger in some places, like grotesquely disfigured, from working out. I would say that his musculature was proportionate, not overly big anywhere. Just well muscled all over. So, anyway, I hope my drawing helps.

[Check this out! From the BFRO: http://www.bfro.net/GDB/CNTS/GA/RM/ga_rm001.htm

There's little resemblance here to our fruit-label "California Giant"! The California Giant looks human--exactly like Charles Atlas one month after he mistook the Rogaine for the suntan oil, and tinted orange by the rays of the setting sun (you can see him squinting into it).

Bumping this for Barkley.

An interesting experiment would be to 1) utilize a police sketch artist to interview eye witnesses and 2) compare the sketchs to the P/G film for consistency and/or influence.

I'm curious as to how many descriptions tap into that collective image of what a BF looks like.

That's just it Enkidu, more drawings would likely develope a better idea of what they really look like with enough data to compare. Perhaps an overall idea of what they most likely resemble would appear which could be considered a basic mold to use.

Angie, that's actually a good sketch, don't sell yourself short, and I have to say the obvious also, that that is a very muscular looking creature and that's obviously what would really be distinguished if I saw that. Appreciate you posting it.
Maybe they should label that 1 buff foot.

here is another report from the bfro that had a sketch. I had seen it some time ago and intended to post it here also eventually.
I also thought it was quite interesting as well.... It's from the adirondak mountains in NY state.
Also obviously, although this would be considered a possible bigfoot sighting, is this a "sasquatch" sighting. If factual, this would clearly indicate that there are different species of these creatures, and really how related are they?
Quite interestingly also, is that all the creatures in the 3 different reports, the 2 from the canadian report, Angie's and this 1, with the sketches posted here, indicate creatures that look much different, and are of different size.

report 2405 from the bfro.net, and sketches

"Dusk sighting on shoreline of George Lake at Deer Leap
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YEAR: 1990

SEASON: Spring

DATE: Spring

STATE: New York

COUNTY: Warren County

LOCATION DETAILS: Just south of the Tongue Mt.Lookout on Route 9N.

NEAREST TOWN: Sabbath Day Point

NEAREST ROAD: Route 9N

OBSERVED: My brother and I were canoeing on Lake George, in N.Y state at about sunset. We headed south for 10 minutes to an area known as Deer Leap. At lake side it is a boulder strewn area with cliffs rising 600 feet above the shoreline. As we were begining to come on to this area we saw something standing on shore. It was brownish in color and standing straight up with it's arms at it's side. It was about the size of a small man and very thin. Its body was facing south, looking down the shorline when it suddenly turned its head directly towards us and looked very intently. We whispered to each other and watched it while it watched us. We were 2 grown men paddling parallel to the shore and about 200 feet out but we could not summon up the courage to go in closer. This thing had a strange look, almost a crazed grin. Like a giant Lemur. The sun was set now as we continued to watch it in the shadows of the mountain. As it was standing next to an old, dead pine tree, it turned and climbed, sloth-like up the tree about 20 feet to the first and only large limb and onto the crook of a branch. We paddled back around and as we approached it again cocked its head directly at us, after a minute or so it turned its face downward into its body and became as if it were a part of the tree. Just a lump on the crook of the branch. You would not know it was there unless you saw it move. I have been in this area all my life and have never seen anything like this and have not seen it since.
In my searchings I have found reference to a creature found in the woods of New Hampshire. Back in the 30's they called it the "Wood devil or Stick Men". The one thing incommon is they are able to blend into trees to avoid being seen.

ALSO NOTICED: It did not make any sounds.

OTHER WITNESSES: 2 witnesses, 30 and 35 years old . Canoeing. Swimming.

OTHER STORIES: I have not heard of another story like this one but I did submit a "bigfoot sound" report that I heard near this location back in 92 and 93.
Also there is mentioned way back in the 1700's, in a report by Roger and his Rangers that "as they were traveling in Vermont from an attack on a French Fort in Canada, they were followed by a thing they called Old Slippery Skin ( a skinny thing) which threw rocks and branches down on them from the ridges above the valley floor they were traveling on. It did't make much of an impression on them , it seemed to be just a pest.

TIME AND CONDITIONS: sunset

ENVIRONMENT: Boulders, lakeside. towering cliffs near by deep water and pine trees.


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Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Kevin Withers:

The witness described the animal as about five feet tall and extremely skinny, like "a teenaged boy." It appeared to be covered with reddish brown hair and had a pale face, expressive eyes and mouth, and a "deranged" smile or smirk on its face. Unlike a bear, its arms were long and it lacked a pronounced snout.

The witness supplied these two drawings:





When it first spotted them, it turned its head and looked down its shoulder at them. It was standing ten to fifteen feet away from a dead pine tree that was about thirty-five feet tall and devoid of pine needles; the lowest branch was about fifteen feet above the ground.

Once the witnesses had passed the animal and turned their aluminum canoe around, it had already begun climbing the tree. It was ten feet up the trunk near the lowest branch, moving slowly like a sloth. It crawled onto the branch and moved its head to look at them again. Then it tucked its chin down into its chest and appeared to blend in with the reddish brown bark on the tree. The witness said that, once it blended into the tree, "The shape didn't have any definition to it."

The witness described it again to me in writing: "As soon as it put it's head down into it's underbelly, it looked like a large bump on the branch. If you hadn't seen it move it's head you would not know it was anything but a large branch. When it bent over on the branch blending in with the bark of the tree, it's fur had a pine bark look too."

During this sighting the witness felt no fear, however he did feel that there was a "boundary line," or a certain area between him and the animal that should not be encroached upon.

The witness' brother was contacted and he corroborated his brother's story, although his recollection of the sighting was not as detailed. He said that the creature was about four feet tall, and both sloth-like and orangutan-like in appearance, although he did not see its face. He doesn't remember seeing the creature standing on the shore before it climbed the tree; nor does he remember seeing it tuck its head down and "blend in" with the tree as his brother did.

According to the witness, several years later two girls, one of which is a lifeguard at a nearby YMCA camp, saw something they called "Monkey Boy" jumping on and off a wall. Attempts to locate and contact these witnesses have thus far been unsuccessful."

It's also interesting that how despite the small size of this creature in this account, the men were apprehensive about approaching it. Something about wild animals.

Wow, Bark, what a face!!! Much more human, in a cartoonish way, than any other I've seen.