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MonkeyMan
Possibly the most interesting of atypical BF reports are the very few in which an assumedly sleeping BF is encountered. When I imagine what an ideal encounter would be like, the sleeping BF is high on the list. People who sight a BF usually don't have the luxury of time to get over the astonishment and make detailed, varied observations. much less take a good photo.

What's to do if you roll a big enough 7 to find yourself in the situation? The few who report such an occurrence claim to have fled the scene. No way I'd do that, but what, then? It's something that anyone who searches for the animal ought to consider before the, uh, big day.

I suppose total sound discipline would come first. Photos, etc., as silently as possible. Then, perhaps have a seat close enough to see well, but far enough to lessen the perceived threat for when big guy when he wakes up. But do you seek cover and hope to see him wake up and go through his "morning routine"? Do you sit in the open where you will surely be seen, hopefully as relatively benign, with a tasty snack food at the ready?

If the latter, one has the chance of an INTERACTION with the creature. Even if it initially bolts, if it does not feel too much at risk there's a reasonable chance it will return.

As for what to do if the sun starts going down and the animal has not yet risen, I'll have to leave that one up to you. icon_surprised.gif

I can't recall seeing more than a handful, maybe 5 or so, reports of sasquatch at rest. There's a few more in which it might have been at rest, but became alerted to human presence and fled, usually with great haste.

Anyone have anything to say?
Paul1968UK
It just occurred to be (having had my wife poke me in the ribs last night for just such a crime), but does a Bigfoot snore ?

My dog does - it is not just us humans that are afflicted, so there is no reason why a Bigfoot shouldn't.

Do any of the few 'resting' reports indicate snoring ?
chronic
sound sleepers in Russia--

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But for a herbivore it is the hardest time of the year, worse even then the winter which is usually rather mild in the Northern Caucasus and quite temperate in Transcaucasia.
I have the impression that for this period the Almasti abandons the empty fields of the foothills, where people dwell, and moves higher into the forest zone. There he can still find dry wild fruits, left from the previous year, and a lot of roots on the southern slopes where in some valleys it is quite warm.
I also think that during the leanest season the Almasti can fall to "sleep." This is not true hibernation, but a kind of protective reaction against adverse conditions, accompanied by a state of low metabolism, which helps the creature weather the adversity. Maybe this is why the Kabardinians, when speaking of something only superficially pleasant, say "There is as much fun in it as in the sleep of an Almasti."
I've heard people say that the creature must store up food for the winter, but those were just suppositions because nobody had ever actually found such stores.

by Marie-Jeanne Koffmann
http://www.n2.net/prey/bigfoot/biology/almasti.htm
cochise
I'll answer the last part of that question first, because it's the easiest:

If it was late in the day and the sun was about to set, I'm afraid I'd be outa' there! icon_stressed.gif

If I had plenty of daylight, I'd most definitely want to watch from a distance, hopefully upwind, and behind good cover. No telling what side of the "bed" the big guy is going to wake up on. Hopefully I would have been sharp enough to have my camera along (and my longest lens, too), and if I was having a real good karma day I'd also have my camcorder with me. I'd spend lots of time getting the best possible photos and video, trying to be as quiet as possible.

When to leave? That's an even tougher question. I guess I'd try to stick it out until the BF woke up, as long as that didn't require staying after dark.

Don't think I'd be brave enough to approach, as I said I might in another thread about running across an injured BF (one that was obviously unable to walk or run).

Yep. That would be an awesome way to spend a little casual time.
17x7
I agree with cochise with one exception. After I was set up a reasonable distance and had the camera set up and had taken some 'sleeping' picts, if the sun began to get low in the sky I'd make sure that just enough noise "happened" to make it stir so I could see that too.

At least I like to think I'd have that much courage. unsure.gif

17x7
BigCountry
I'd like to think I could do all the things mentioned; get settled, be quiet, set up a camara, silently wait until he woke.....................unfortunately, I think my initial "OH, S__T!!!" would make all the above null and void!!! icon_eek.gif
RogerKni
Anyone here who'd give him a hotfoot? ph34r.gif
JayleeD
Now THAT would be funny Roger! icon_really_happy_guy.gif
BigCountry
You could always get him with the "tickle his nose with a feather".
Shorebreak
How about openning some smelling salts under hi nose? icon_stressed.gif
VernF
A very interesting premise, this. Yes, waiting around for an after dark awakening is probably too much to expect of any reasonable person, and it would take a bolder person than me to try Roger's hot foot. I think that Cochise's ideas as amended by 17x would be a pretty reasonable approach. I would try one more thing after (if) the big guy (or gal) retreated, and I think it is a reasonable assumption that it probably would. I would examine the bedding area and the area in close proximity for any organic material or artifacts which might have arguable value. This would include hair, scat, and regurgitated or partially eaten food, which I would bag up (using rubber gloves and holding my nose) and all of which I would freeze except possibly the hair. None of this is likely to be a source of useable DNA, but techniques advance every day. None of it has an ironclad association with the occupant of the bed either, but it would be a reasonable bet. If I found a stick in the bedding area which seemed to be recently chewed, I'd probably bag and collect that too, both to look at for evidence of dentition and on the off chance of dried saliva.

-Vern
chronic
dip his hand in warm water and call his buddies over for some entertainment?
MonkeyMan
> dip his hand in warm water and call his buddies over for some entertainment?

Ah, you beat me to it.

Rousting the critter in a thoughtful manner as daylight wanes looks like the ticket.
Dayglo
Reminds me of a Far Side cartoon with a man standing next to his friend in an entire body cast. He explains to the doctor something like: "...so he asks, do you think that gorilla is dead or just sleeping?"

Wish I could find the book.
Huntster
I know that waking me up can be dangerous. I'd hate to be the first to experiment with doing so to a Sasquatch.

I also know that I never snored until after I was 40. Recently I've been described as a world class snorer. I don't hear a thing, and I've never slept better. Sleep apthnea? Maybe, but I'll leave well enough alone. Like I wrote, I've never slept better. Maybe snoring becomes more common with age in Sasquatches, too. (I wonder how old they get? 20? 30?)

Have you Bigfoot fans talked much about hibernation? I think that's an interesting subject. A big omnivore (like Sasquatch has to be) in North America would likely be a hibernating creature. Northern latitudes don't provide the necessary growing season or meat for such a large creature like the tropics do, where all other great apes live.

But I also notice that the latitude where I live (60 degrees) isn't likely Sasquatch habitat. The winter is too long, the snow is too deep, and vegetation is essentially dead for half the year. The fish are long gone, the migratory birds are gone, the bears are sleeping, and the only big thing going on is the wolves, caribou, and moose (along with the smaller furbearers, rodents under the snow, and a few bird species).

But south of Juneau, the woods are still green (well, admittedly, it's all evergreens). The snow comes, but melts fast. The beaches still provide sustenence. The bears still hibernate, but maybe......

As far as surprising a sleeping beast, well, I've wandered about in the woods as often as the best of them. I've never awoken a sleeping beast that I know of. Moose and what not laying down, perhaps, but sleeping? I suspect they heard me coming long before I woke 'em up.
New York Believer
QUOTE(cochise @ Apr 1 2004, 11:14 PM)
If I had plenty of daylight, I'd most definitely want to watch from a distance, hopefully upwind, and behind good cover. No telling what side of the "bed" the big guy is going to wake up on. Hopefully I would have been sharp enough to have my camera along (and my longest lens, too), and if I was having a real good karma day I'd also have my camcorder with me. I'd spend lots of time getting the best possible photos and video, trying to be as quiet as possible.

I would do pretty much the same things cochise mentioned here.
cochise
QUOTE(17x7 @ Apr 2 2004, 12:27 AM)
I agree with cochise with one exception. After I was set up a reasonable distance and had the camera set up and had taken some 'sleeping' picts, if the sun began to get low in the sky I'd make sure that just enough noise "happened" to make it stir so I could see that too.

At least I like to think I'd have that much courage. unsure.gif

17x7

You know, I just don't think, to be honest, that I would be brave enough to wake up a sleeping behemoth (I'm assuming we're talking about a nice, big, gigantic adult Sasquatch here). Even if we were talking about a known animal of that size and sheer power, like maybe a bear or moose, I'd sneak away and count my blessings that it didn't stir.

But maybe things would be different if I had someone with me. Not because we'd be any safer, but I'm always a little braver when I'm not alone (yeah, you guessed it, I'm not one of those big bad hunter types).
17x7
Well, the noise I was thinking of wasn't crashing cymbals or blowing a police whistle in its face, just a rock tossed against a tree trunk or a twig snap while I sat 100 yds away or so. Maybe just keeping the camera pointed the right way as I get up and obviously walk away would do it. That gives it the chance to believe that it could get away unseen and the motivation to try.

I figure that it shouldn't take too much to wake one up or we'd be stepping on the things all the time. wink.gif

17x7
Spikeace
SO WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THEY SLEEP?????
Malachi
QUOTE(Spikeace @ Apr 3 2004, 02:30 AM)
SO WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THEY SLEEP?????

Because they're animals.
DeomTengu
ok ya could curl up with em and whisper sweet nothings in its ear???
kbsquatch
why hasn't any one mentioned the obvious? Here is the perfect chance to prove the existence of our friend to the rest of the world and thereby provide him with the protection he needs. The last 35-40 years has shown us that pictures, hair and s**t, (oh my) won't do it. icon_bang.gif In this situation a tranq gun won't do because you couldn't haul 800 to 1000 lbs. of sleeping Sas out of the woods w/o a helicopter. After all he ain't gonna be sleeping in the middle of the road.

It's not like we would be doing it for sport, machismo or bloodlust. Actually, I think they are almost ,if not as, intelligent as we are. So it would be very hard to live with for the rest of my life, but if the universe/god/chance /whatever provided us with this opportunity to save their whole race who are we to throw it away? sad.gif
kbsquatch
sorry still trying to learn this thing( my computer etc.)
finlander
One was spotted at the end of February in Michigan by two snowmobilers who had stopped for a breather. Northern lower peninsula. It was not too upset by their presence as it watched them and they jumped on their machines and left quickly. So it would seem this one didn't hibernate. Once my wife and I surprised two elk that had bedded do in late afternoon. We did not know they were there, and got to within 30 yards when they jumped to their feet. I don't know how much they weigh but the ground under us shook when they landed. My heart would fail if I surprised a sleeping BF that I had approached without knowing it was there. new_stun.gif
J-Dawg
any threads about happening upon a pair of bigfoot while they were mating? I mean if it is a flesh and blood creature its gotta get down and dirty sometime right? wub.gif But getting back on topic, if i came across a sleeping bigfoot i'd probably walk closer until i realized what it was and then the flight instinct would probably kick in...some animals tend to get pretty aggressive when you surprise them, and i wouldnt want to be face to face with a gumpy sleep deprived bigfoot before he's had his coffee. (bigfoot) new_sleepysmileyanim.gif + (me) blink.gif = new_grrr.gif
Spikeace
Good Point. I was sleepy when I posted it.
17x7
I read an account on the net about a hunter that reported seeing mating sasquatches (sasqui?). Don't remember where it was. Seems the report was from the 60's or so.

Something makes me think it was documented in some of John Green's stuff, but I'm guessing on that.

17x7
The QuatchWatcher
Bigfoot sex... imagine getting that on film...

TQW
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tarran
QUOTE(The QuatchWatcher @ Apr 5 2004, 11:33 AM)
Bigfoot sex... imagine getting that on film...

TQW 
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Patty Does Dallas, Maybe??? unsure.gif :rolleyes: icon_really_happy_guy.gif icon_really_happy_guy.gif icon_really_happy_guy.gif

Or according to Greg Long,
Sideshow Bob Does Dallas!! unsure.gif icon_really_happy_guy.gif icon_really_happy_guy.gif icon_really_happy_guy.gif icon_really_happy_guy.gif
The QuatchWatcher
Nice T.
Leemon
Considering how reclusive these creatures are, wouldn't it be possible they would not sleep as deeply as humans do. But, instead rest in a half asleep/awake form. This way they could be able to better sense the approach the humans that they are hiding from. Has anyone else wondered about this?
MonkeyMan
While reading Green's On the Track of.... last month I was thrilled to find an account of a pair sleeping sasquatches.

Funny thing is, it came from the same logger known for the classic report (Estacada, OR) of the family of 3 digging in the rocks for drowsy, furry snacks. This must be one lucky guy, 'cause he's seen these things doing everything but playing volleyball.

Well, actually he appears to be a dedicated trooper who spent a ton of time in a very productive area, scoring 3 sightings after his initial encounter.

http://www.rfthomas.clara.net/classics/logger.html

Here's some modern information on that situation:

http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=5176

I'll be travelling to Estacada in the fall and sure would love to know where be that famed hole in the rocks. I've got it narrowed down, but not far enough. What a great place to visit that would be.
HBK
That would be SWEET, but I don't know what I would do. It seems all the film in the world would be inconclusive, but if you got up close...I wonder if they would get violent?
LaurieB2851
QUOTE
I read an account on the net about a hunter that reported seeing mating sasquatches (sasqui?). Don't remember where it was. Seems the report was from the 60's or so.



Well, back in the 60's and 70's we had tons of hippies who were on LSD, pot, etc. If that was the case with the reporting person experiencing the sighting I don't know if I'd trust their vision. In their minds they would be able to dream up just about anything and it was the era of free sex, free love so you know that was always on the mind. (Thank God I just missed that era. I got into the sloppy dressing thing for about a year and that was great because I couldn't afford anything better at the time. laugh.gif)
Saskwatcher
Laurie,
The numbers could be staggering !!!
Who knows how many "BF Eyewitnesses" have just been plain ol','tow-up' ?
"Oh, WOW MAN !!! What a TRIP !!!"
I'm sure there have been more than a few cases
of inebriated witnesses in BF Reports.....

BIGFOOT as the NEW 'Pink Elephant' ?
hmmm... blink.gif
RogerKni
Check out this thread, "Drugs Booze and Bigfoot" from two years ago: http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?sho...22919entry22919
KidWolf
Hmmm, If I came across a sleeping sasquatch, I'd very carefully look for others in the immediate area. Many sightings seem to imply that these are social animals and there are many accounts of others animals luring/frightening people away with sounds and objects thrown etc. Combine this with a few (not many, but a few) very adverse reactions to cameras, and I'd want to make sure there wasn't a second creature nearby guarding before I started my evidence gathering (with photos obviously).


KW - Who thinks that such a reclusive creature would have the intelligence to post guards whilst sleeping.
bcmonkeyman
Seriously though, I think that this is potentially an excellent way to find bigfoot.
Given that the are primarily nocturnal, we don't have good odds searching for them in there turf during the night. It's there territory, and we are not too good a covering it in the dark.

However, if you make the assumption that bigfoot sleeps primarily during the day, you should have much better odds at trying to find a sleeping bigfoot in the daylight.

The key would be to research and understand the sleeping environment of the sasquatch. Then you could concentrate your searches in good daytime sleeping enivorments for bigfoot.
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