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Well, apparently, MSNBC's Keith Oberlman will interview Bob Heironimus Monday night, March 22nd, at 8:00 eastern. The link to Oberlman is as follows: http://www.msnbc.com/id/3036677/
Maybe then we can get a size comparison of Mr. H.
BTW, how high can you pile bull$hit?
BLACKTALON
BTW, how high can you pile bull$hit?
BLACKTALON
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I would dare to bet the media will say,well folks there you have it,BIGFOOT IS NOT REAL HERE IS THE MAN WHO WAS IN THE SUIT...CASE CLOSED.
They have a complete transcript area that should have the entire interview in a couple of days at least. That should be posted as well.
Um...looking forward to it...? 
[EDIT] At least it's not Aaron Brown. That'd cause me to have to replace my TV (and possibly whatever I tossed through its screen).
[EDIT] At least it's not Aaron Brown. That'd cause me to have to replace my TV (and possibly whatever I tossed through its screen).
I just wonder if they'll show Bob H. walking and show it side by side with the PGF and say, "Well, the walks are identical, the film was a hoax, case closed."?
QUOTE(bipto @ Mar 20 2004, 05:24 PM)
Um...looking forward to it...?
[EDIT] At least it's not Aaron Brown. That'd cause me to have to replace my TV (and possibly whatever I tossed through its screen).
[EDIT] At least it's not Aaron Brown. That'd cause me to have to replace my TV (and possibly whatever I tossed through its screen).
Problem with Aaron Brown, Bip?
QUOTE(bf2004 @ Mar 20 2004, 03:32 PM)
QUOTE(bipto @ Mar 20 2004, 05:24 PM)
Um...looking forward to it...?
[EDIT] At least it's not Aaron Brown. That'd cause me to have to replace my TV (and possibly whatever I tossed through its screen).
[EDIT] At least it's not Aaron Brown. That'd cause me to have to replace my TV (and possibly whatever I tossed through its screen).
Problem with Aaron Brown, Bip?
Any living sentient being should have a problem with the 'journalistic void' known as Aaron Brown. All it takes is to listen to him try and sound interesting. He can't do it! And nobody else can do it for him! :rolleyes:
O.K.
QUOTE(bf2004 @ Mar 20 2004, 03:43 PM)
O.K.
Sorry bf2004!
He is just one of my pet peeves!
I was laid up at home at the outbreak of the Iraqi war and was interested in listening to events during the day...and 'Lo and Behold' who was I stuck listening to every day?
The only relief that would come was when Wolf would come on! And to make this thought even more perculiar...I am not even American!
I find CNN to be very suspect in their reporting anyway!
[The proceeding is a non-political, non-governmental, posting...just an explaination..]
QUOTE(bf2004 @ Mar 20 2004, 03:51 PM)
Well, apparently, MSNBC's Keith Oberlman will interview Bob Heironimus Monday night, March 22nd, at 8:00 eastern. The link to Oberlman is as follows: http://www.msnbc.com/id/3036677/
OH BOY!!! I can't wait for Bob H. to make a fool out of himself and the other stooges on national T.V.!!!
DAH!!! DAH!!! I was the guy in the suit DAH!!! Of course I can't prove it, DAH!!
DAH!! But if you don't believe me, DAH!! just ask me or Kal Korf, or Greg Long,
DAH!! They'll tell ya!! DAH!! DAH!!
And don't forget, DAH!! DAH!! to buy the book, DAH!! So I can get paid, DAH!!
DAH!! Now when do I get paid?? DAH!!
QUOTE(tarran @ Mar 20 2004, 06:08 PM)
QUOTE(bf2004 @ Mar 20 2004, 03:51 PM)
Well, apparently, MSNBC's Keith Oberlman will interview Bob Heironimus Monday night, March 22nd, at 8:00 eastern. The link to Oberlman is as follows: http://www.msnbc.com/id/3036677/
OH BOY!!! I can't wait for Bob H. to make a fool out of himself and the other stooges on national T.V.!!!
DAH!!! DAH!!! I was the guy in the suit DAH!!! Of course I can't prove it, DAH!!
DAH!! But if you don't believe me, DAH!! just ask me or
Ditto to that, tarran!!!
Wonder if it's too much to hope for that B. H. might be asked a few tough questions, such as how in the world he managed to leave 1-inch deep footprints in the sandbar while wearing this (gorilla suit? Horse-hide costume??) -- and how he walked so fluidly if he tries to state that they had him weighed down with lead boots or some such excuse.
I doubt very seriously that any of the technical findings from recent examinations of the film will even be mentioned. Would be SO refreshing if this particular host/interviewer would come to the table with a little knowledge of the subject.
I get giddy thinking of what it would be like to watch a nationally televised program wherein both Greg Long and Bob Hieronimus had to field questions from the likes of John Green, M.K. Davis (armed with his fantastic blow-ups and the measurements they have yielded), and Jimmy Chilcut (sp?), who I believe has examined the casts from the P/G encounter. Oh how entertaining that would be!
And to top off the whole program, we'd be treated to an on-camera recreation of Patty's walk-by, in the "exact same type of gorilla suit that Roger Patterson ordered from Morris", with a clip of the real film running in split frame right alongside.
It would be a landmark day for Bigfoot Research.
I doubt very seriously that any of the technical findings from recent examinations of the film will even be mentioned. Would be SO refreshing if this particular host/interviewer would come to the table with a little knowledge of the subject.
I get giddy thinking of what it would be like to watch a nationally televised program wherein both Greg Long and Bob Hieronimus had to field questions from the likes of John Green, M.K. Davis (armed with his fantastic blow-ups and the measurements they have yielded), and Jimmy Chilcut (sp?), who I believe has examined the casts from the P/G encounter. Oh how entertaining that would be!
And to top off the whole program, we'd be treated to an on-camera recreation of Patty's walk-by, in the "exact same type of gorilla suit that Roger Patterson ordered from Morris", with a clip of the real film running in split frame right alongside.
It would be a landmark day for Bigfoot Research.
Delurking - Howdy all.
I've been reading the boards for about a month now - lively month!
I've been a fan of Olberman's for quite a while, I consider him to be fairly objective and studious (for a TV journalist). If someone qualified were to send him a list of pertinent questions and/or arguments, he might, just might, give us a credible interview. It's probably worth a shot at least.
Not that I'm trying to pawn the job off onto someone else; but I'm just a neophyte.
Thanks,
Roger
I've been reading the boards for about a month now - lively month!
I've been a fan of Olberman's for quite a while, I consider him to be fairly objective and studious (for a TV journalist). If someone qualified were to send him a list of pertinent questions and/or arguments, he might, just might, give us a credible interview. It's probably worth a shot at least.
Not that I'm trying to pawn the job off onto someone else; but I'm just a neophyte.
Thanks,
Roger
Someone contact MSNBC and give Keith Oberlman some questions to ask. It would make for some very entertaining broadcasting. That would be sweet if he were to answer for all their shabby esxcuses. I think the interview will be entirely one sided and anything BH says will co pretty much unchallenged.
But wouldnt it be a nice surprise for BH if the tough questions were asked of him on national TV?
I would do it from here but cannot acess the page from work.
But wouldnt it be a nice surprise for BH if the tough questions were asked of him on national TV?
I would do it from here but cannot acess the page from work.
Welcome Roger..and a good idea...even if Olberman doesn't ask the question .At least its there..and theres nothing to lose in the trying...heres the Contact page for anyone who wants to give it a shot..Hopefully if the questions are serious and well written they'll be taken into consideration..
Just a suggestion, but dont ask questions that are attacking or questioning of Bob H. or his story. Simply address the scientific issues that have already been determined such as arm length, gait, muscles moving etc.
I like Olbermann. He seems like a bit of a smart ass. Maybe cynic is a better word.
I think the odds of him asking some decent questions are better than if it were Katie Couric or someone.
Of course, there may be producer-applied constraints on the whole thing and it could end up being a one-minute segment where Olbermann just says, "Real quick, share your story with us."
But, we can at least cross our fingers, send in some questions, and hope John Green shows up unannounced.
So, let's make a list of questions to send Keith.
-Where's the suit?
-Lots of people have said they're 'the guy in the suit.' Why should we believe you?
-How'd you make the footprints?
-How long are your arms?
-Where's the suit?
-Why not recreate it?
-Can you recreate it?
-If you can't recreate it, why not?
-Do the walk. Right now. Punk.
--WHERE's THE BEEF?
I think the odds of him asking some decent questions are better than if it were Katie Couric or someone.
Of course, there may be producer-applied constraints on the whole thing and it could end up being a one-minute segment where Olbermann just says, "Real quick, share your story with us."
But, we can at least cross our fingers, send in some questions, and hope John Green shows up unannounced.
So, let's make a list of questions to send Keith.
-Where's the suit?
-Lots of people have said they're 'the guy in the suit.' Why should we believe you?
-How'd you make the footprints?
-How long are your arms?
-Where's the suit?
-Why not recreate it?
-Can you recreate it?
-If you can't recreate it, why not?
-Do the walk. Right now. Punk.
--WHERE's THE BEEF?
One more thing..
Regardless of whether the MSNBC people pay attention to our questions, per se, I still think we should write to them.
It will at least let them know that people are interested, and that people are skeptical. And then the segment might get more time and more thought.
My advice, though: Keep your letters short and simple.
Regardless of whether the MSNBC people pay attention to our questions, per se, I still think we should write to them.
It will at least let them know that people are interested, and that people are skeptical. And then the segment might get more time and more thought.
My advice, though: Keep your letters short and simple.
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Do the walk. Right now. Punk.
QUOTE(touchanymonkeys @ Mar 20 2004, 11:08 PM)
I like Olbermann. He seems like a bit of a smart ass. Maybe cynic is a better word.
I-Do the walk. Right now. Punk.
--WHERE's THE BEEF?
I-Do the walk. Right now. Punk.
--WHERE's THE BEEF?
Ah!
I think someone with an *opposing view* ought to be on the program too. Gimlin, himself, would be the man to stand up for what really happened... He was there, afterall.
Now this is what i've been hoping for, a chance to see and hear this man myself. And hopefully he'll supply some video of himself doing the walk! Maybe he'll dig up a few surprises....like maybe a picture of the suit, or him in the suit. I've read on here that he may have hauled the thing around in the trunk of his car. If he had posession of the suit for an extended period of time, it would seem suspicious to me if he didn't get a few snapshots of himself wearing it. But if a picture existed it would probably have been in the book. I just hope it won't be all talk and no show!
OK, I bit the bullet and sent this off to MSNBC:
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To whom it may concern:
I wish to address my concerns regarding your scheduled guest for the 3/22 show regarding "the man who says he can prove the reality behind the legend", i.e., Bigfoot.
Recently a book has been released claiming to offer proof of the hoaxing of the famed Patterson -Gimlin Bigfoot film of 1967. I assume your scheduled guest is someone associated with this book.
This book appears to be nothing more than a very poorly researched attempt to make a quick buck, and it seems that at least some associated with the book have a significantly less than reputable past with regards to journalistic integrity.
I know the knee-jerk reaction to the word "Bigfoot" is a slightly suppressed guffaw, but the truth is, no scientist who has earnestly studied the Patterson-Gimlin film has ever been able to disprove its authenticity.
Many people in the past have claimed to be the "man in the suit", and they have all been quickly forgotten, just as this book and its hype will be forgotten. Unfortunately, the cries of "Hoax" are always louder than the rebuttal, and each story of a hoax in the mainstream press lessens the chances that the subject of Bigfoot will ever be taken seriously.
Others will no doubt write to you who can offer a wealth of specific information regarding this subject. All I ask is that you consider it with the objectivity befitting a journalist.
Thank you for your time,
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Alright then, to those of you in the know -
The ball's in your court!
Roger
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To whom it may concern:
I wish to address my concerns regarding your scheduled guest for the 3/22 show regarding "the man who says he can prove the reality behind the legend", i.e., Bigfoot.
Recently a book has been released claiming to offer proof of the hoaxing of the famed Patterson -Gimlin Bigfoot film of 1967. I assume your scheduled guest is someone associated with this book.
This book appears to be nothing more than a very poorly researched attempt to make a quick buck, and it seems that at least some associated with the book have a significantly less than reputable past with regards to journalistic integrity.
I know the knee-jerk reaction to the word "Bigfoot" is a slightly suppressed guffaw, but the truth is, no scientist who has earnestly studied the Patterson-Gimlin film has ever been able to disprove its authenticity.
Many people in the past have claimed to be the "man in the suit", and they have all been quickly forgotten, just as this book and its hype will be forgotten. Unfortunately, the cries of "Hoax" are always louder than the rebuttal, and each story of a hoax in the mainstream press lessens the chances that the subject of Bigfoot will ever be taken seriously.
Others will no doubt write to you who can offer a wealth of specific information regarding this subject. All I ask is that you consider it with the objectivity befitting a journalist.
Thank you for your time,
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Alright then, to those of you in the know -
The ball's in your court!
Roger
Excellent letter Roger. And you were afraid to write it...SURE ya were...you were sandbaggin'. 
The idealist in me always wants to believe that the 'powers that be' at these shows have enough 'integrity' to read and in fact TAKE HEED of 'advice' such as the kind your letter provides, BUT I think 'reality' (defined as ratings) often 'gets in the way' of logic, common sense and even intelligence. Let's hope your letter and other of it's ilk find their way to the right people at the right time.
"Harry"
The idealist in me always wants to believe that the 'powers that be' at these shows have enough 'integrity' to read and in fact TAKE HEED of 'advice' such as the kind your letter provides, BUT I think 'reality' (defined as ratings) often 'gets in the way' of logic, common sense and even intelligence. Let's hope your letter and other of it's ilk find their way to the right people at the right time. "Harry"
Thanks, Harry.
The only reason I delurked when I did is because I have a certain amount of faith in Olbermann's journalistic integrity - this is the guy who left MSNBC a few years ago for being "all Monica, all the time". I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Of course, this all depends on Bob H or anyone else actually showing up.
Roger
The only reason I delurked when I did is because I have a certain amount of faith in Olbermann's journalistic integrity - this is the guy who left MSNBC a few years ago for being "all Monica, all the time". I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Of course, this all depends on Bob H or anyone else actually showing up.
Roger
I found this picture of Heironimus taken while he and Greg Long were comparing notes.
(There may be something to this guy's story after all.)
<Just kidding. I have no idea who this guy is.>
I was wondering if someone could somehow get a copy of John Green's recent press release about all of this to Keith Olbermann.
I also sent a quick e-mail to MSNBC. Told them I'd be tuning in.
I basically said that I hoped they would ask some questions about evidence, since most of the claims seem to be based on hearsay, etc. , and they haven't yet produced a suit or a re-creation of the film. Also mentioned that he's not the first guy to make this 'confession.'
Pointed out that the issue shouldn't be whether the film is a hoax, but whether these guys can back up their claims that they've 'solved the hoax.'
I'm still hoping we can collect a list of questions to send.
Then we could send a letter on behalf of those of us who are interested. Maybe say something like, "Messrs. Long and Heironimus have not been willing to answer these questions when asked by those close to the subject, and we were hoping Mr. Olbermann could try to find the answers during the interview."
It would be nice if we could get the BFRO to sign on, too. Not to disparage the BFF, but a letter from an 'organization' might get more notice than one from a message board.
ANYHOW, Let them know if you're interested, people. Interested viewers are dollar signs, and dollar signs are hard to ignore.
(There may be something to this guy's story after all.)
<Just kidding. I have no idea who this guy is.>
I was wondering if someone could somehow get a copy of John Green's recent press release about all of this to Keith Olbermann.
I also sent a quick e-mail to MSNBC. Told them I'd be tuning in.
I basically said that I hoped they would ask some questions about evidence, since most of the claims seem to be based on hearsay, etc. , and they haven't yet produced a suit or a re-creation of the film. Also mentioned that he's not the first guy to make this 'confession.'
Pointed out that the issue shouldn't be whether the film is a hoax, but whether these guys can back up their claims that they've 'solved the hoax.'
I'm still hoping we can collect a list of questions to send.
Then we could send a letter on behalf of those of us who are interested. Maybe say something like, "Messrs. Long and Heironimus have not been willing to answer these questions when asked by those close to the subject, and we were hoping Mr. Olbermann could try to find the answers during the interview."
It would be nice if we could get the BFRO to sign on, too. Not to disparage the BFF, but a letter from an 'organization' might get more notice than one from a message board.
ANYHOW, Let them know if you're interested, people. Interested viewers are dollar signs, and dollar signs are hard to ignore.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/
Countdown with Keith Olbermann
Monday [March 22, 2004]
at 8 p.m. ET
Keith goes one-on-one with Bigfoot. Meet the man
who says he can prove the reality behind the legend.
Send in your comments, critiques, or insights before,
after, or during the program to:
countdown@msnbc.com
Countdown with Keith Olbermann
Monday [March 22, 2004]
at 8 p.m. ET
Keith goes one-on-one with Bigfoot. Meet the man
who says he can prove the reality behind the legend.
Send in your comments, critiques, or insights before,
after, or during the program to:
countdown@msnbc.com
Well, Keith will have no excuse for not being prepared, that's for sure. I, too, sent an email to them last night - pretty much covering the same ground as Roger's. More or less told them I thought it was going to be an excellent opportunity for them to outclass some of the other news outlets that have done nothing more or less than blindly assist Hieronimus' claims.
I plan to watch, and I will beforehand lock up everything in the room that is light enough to pick up and throw at the TV.
I plan to watch, and I will beforehand lock up everything in the room that is light enough to pick up and throw at the TV.
What irritates the poop out of me is, I wonder if ANY of the journalists in the TV media actually know or care about this whole situation to pull off the type of interview needed? You have to face the fact that, sure most of them probably are familiar with the P/G film (having seen it on TV as we all have), but do any of them have enough knowledge to ask the questions that need to be asked? Do any of these journalists have any idea about the things in this field OTHER than the P/G film? Or will this be another "Wallace" ending...."I wore the suit, so bigfoot is not real". :rolleyes:
I hope Mr. Olbermann will be prepared, but it's going to take more than reading a book like Long's and/or reading a few emails for him to be truly prepared and try to present this as a factual interview. I'm not going to hold my breath.
Just my opinion.
I hope Mr. Olbermann will be prepared, but it's going to take more than reading a book like Long's and/or reading a few emails for him to be truly prepared and try to present this as a factual interview. I'm not going to hold my breath.
Just my opinion.
I also can't help but wonder if most journalists even care? It sure doesn't seem like they do.
I sent an e-mail off also. Heck, we might get lucky and it might turn out to be a balanced interview. (I hope)
I'm hoping Bob H. has learned a few things from Korff and Long, to the extent that his pat answer to any tough question will be, "Well, it's up to you to prove me wrong!"
That should go over well with a journalist like Olbermann.
That should go over well with a journalist like Olbermann.
BUMP.
Monday 3/22, 8pm eastern. MSNBC.
Keith Olbermann interviews 'the man who says he wore the suit.'
E-mails to: countdown@msnbc.com
Ask him to ask him hard questions.
Monday 3/22, 8pm eastern. MSNBC.
Keith Olbermann interviews 'the man who says he wore the suit.'
E-mails to: countdown@msnbc.com
Ask him to ask him hard questions.
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Did Keith state which "guy in the suit" he will interview? Or will he have all of those who claim to be "the guy"on the air?? Now that would be a great show!!
Dave Collins
Superior, Co.
I sent an E- mail to Mr. Olbermann, Here is a copy of the E-mail I sent,
Dear Mr. Olbermann,
When interviewing this man on your show, could you please ask him some tough questions in the name of good and fair journalism?? Such as what was the suit made out of? What kind of fur or synthetic fur was used?? What kind of padding?? How was muscle movement achieved? What were the feet made of? Please Mr. Olbermann, don't just take this guys word for it like many other journalists out there are doing!! Many sasquatch researchers who have read the book, The Making Of Bigfoot, have found no proof or evidence of these people's claims, only hearsay,and take"these people's word for it"types of claims!! Also, there have been contradictions made by the author and Mr. Heironimous posted on the internet and in the book!! One such contradiction is the author Greg Long claims the suit was a gorilla suit made by Phillip Morris and sold to Roger Patterson,and that this suit was altered and was used to fake the film. But Mr. Heironimous claimed before that the suit was made by Patterson himself out of a horses hide and a fur coat!! I view you as a responsible and objective newsman and interviewer Mr. Olbermann, please ask the tough questions.
Also, it would be the fair and right thing to do, to invite respected sasquatch researchers
who have studied the film and believe in its authenticity on your show in the near future to
dispute these people's claims. It is only fair to present both sides of the argument!!
Some suggestions are Mk Davis, Daniel Perez, Dr. Jeff Meldrum, and John Green.
Thank you for your time, Mr. Olbermann!!
Sincerely Keith Schlicher
Dear Mr. Olbermann,
When interviewing this man on your show, could you please ask him some tough questions in the name of good and fair journalism?? Such as what was the suit made out of? What kind of fur or synthetic fur was used?? What kind of padding?? How was muscle movement achieved? What were the feet made of? Please Mr. Olbermann, don't just take this guys word for it like many other journalists out there are doing!! Many sasquatch researchers who have read the book, The Making Of Bigfoot, have found no proof or evidence of these people's claims, only hearsay,and take"these people's word for it"types of claims!! Also, there have been contradictions made by the author and Mr. Heironimous posted on the internet and in the book!! One such contradiction is the author Greg Long claims the suit was a gorilla suit made by Phillip Morris and sold to Roger Patterson,and that this suit was altered and was used to fake the film. But Mr. Heironimous claimed before that the suit was made by Patterson himself out of a horses hide and a fur coat!! I view you as a responsible and objective newsman and interviewer Mr. Olbermann, please ask the tough questions.
Also, it would be the fair and right thing to do, to invite respected sasquatch researchers
who have studied the film and believe in its authenticity on your show in the near future to
dispute these people's claims. It is only fair to present both sides of the argument!!
Some suggestions are Mk Davis, Daniel Perez, Dr. Jeff Meldrum, and John Green.
Thank you for your time, Mr. Olbermann!!
Sincerely Keith Schlicher
I want to know a few things specifically...
Where is "the" suit?
Why doesnt the suit in the book look even somewhat like what was recorded in the Patterson film?
When will the Keith Olbermann show have on people that were actually there to refute what will be alleged tonight?
Where is "the" suit?
Why doesnt the suit in the book look even somewhat like what was recorded in the Patterson film?
When will the Keith Olbermann show have on people that were actually there to refute what will be alleged tonight?
QUOTE(AnotherPullTab @ Mar 22 2004, 11:56 AM)
I want to know a few things specifically...
Where is "the" suit?
Why doesnt the suit in the book look even somewhat like what was recorded in the Patterson film?
When will the Keith Olbermann show have on people that were actually there to refute what will be alleged tonight?
Where is "the" suit?
Why doesnt the suit in the book look even somewhat like what was recorded in the Patterson film?
When will the Keith Olbermann show have on people that were actually there to refute what will be alleged tonight?
E-mail away Pulltab!!
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/
I have sent an e-mail as well.Ask that the show be more than an advertisement for the book.Gave most of the same questions that everyone wants asked.
What is going to anger me more about all this garbage is the fact that the public will once again have their doubts cinfirmed. Nevermind that they already thing it was Wallaces wife wearing the suit. They will quickly forget all that. Do you think anyone out there will catch that and say "Wait, I thought that Wallace guy had his wife do that" No they wont. (we all agree that Wallace had nothing to do with it, but the media forgets that)
I already chalked all this up to---
guy says --"it was me"
journalist says-- "fascinating"
End of story. Thats about the whole of it.
I hope I am pleasantly surprised though.
I already chalked all this up to---
guy says --"it was me"
journalist says-- "fascinating"
End of story. Thats about the whole of it.
I hope I am pleasantly surprised though.
In the long run..this book..whatever its content, will change nothing.
The unbelievers will still un-believe!
The believers, with few exceptions will still believe
The chasers will still chase!
The researchers will still research!
And elusive Sassy will still elude!
The P&g film will be attacked as long as it exists!
The whole thing should be attended to, for proof, and then ignored!
The unbelievers will still un-believe!
The believers, with few exceptions will still believe
The chasers will still chase!
The researchers will still research!
And elusive Sassy will still elude!
The P&g film will be attacked as long as it exists!
The whole thing should be attended to, for proof, and then ignored!
QUOTE(GrandCherokee @ Mar 22 2004, 01:38 PM)
In the long run..this book..whatever its content, will change nothing.
The unbelievers will still un-believe!
The believers, with few exceptions will still believe
The chasers will still chase!
The researchers will still research!
And elusive Sassy will still elude!
The P&g film will be attacked as long as it exists!
The whole thing should be attended to, for proof, and then ignored!
The unbelievers will still un-believe!
The believers, with few exceptions will still believe
The chasers will still chase!
The researchers will still research!
And elusive Sassy will still elude!
The P&g film will be attacked as long as it exists!
The whole thing should be attended to, for proof, and then ignored!
Exactly right GC... Which is why I've not bothered with the overall discussion much...
As said somewhere on here.. "This too shall pass...."
Just another Chapter in BFery...
Ok, sent my email....
This is it:
This is it:
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Mr. Olbermann,
I am writing with the hope that in your interview with Mr. Heironimous tonight you will ask very specific questions regarding his claims. As an MSNBC viewer I expect this from you and your network, so I know you won't let me down. Mr. Heironimous has made some very specific statements regarding the validity of the claims made in the Roger Patterson/Bob Gimlin "Bigfoot" film of 1967 and those of us that believe that Mr. Heironimous is not being truthful in his claims have particular points we would like for him to address. Some of these points are:
Where is "the" suit? Surely such a clever hoax would have been a significant enough reason to hang on to it. Allegations made by Mr. Heironimous and others connected to this latest book attempting to debunk the Patterson film have contradicted themselves in the past as to what the suit was made of and who made it. Surely they have settled on one answer by now. Can you ask him to clarify his position at this time?
Why doesn't the suit, claimed in the book to be the "same type of suit", look even somewhat like what was recorded in the Patterson film? Anthropologists and Primatologists that have studied the Patterson film have been unable to declare the film a forgery for 37 years. This is based on information gathered through scientific study of the subjects' movements as well as other anatomical features such as muscle movement that has been observed on the subject but unable to be duplicated even today, let alone in 1967.
When will "Countdown" plan to have a representative of the scientific community as a guest to address the claims that will be made by Mr. Heironimous? I would like to suggest that you contact Dr. Jeff Meldrum at the following address and ask that he be a guest so that both sides of this fascinating phenomenon can be heard.
His contact information is as follows:
Dr. Jeff Meldrum
Dept. Biological Science
Campus Box 8007
Idaho State University
Pocatello, ID 83209-8007
JMeldrum@BFRO.net
Thank you very much for your time and I will be sure to tune in tonight.
Sincerely,
Steve S.
I am writing with the hope that in your interview with Mr. Heironimous tonight you will ask very specific questions regarding his claims. As an MSNBC viewer I expect this from you and your network, so I know you won't let me down. Mr. Heironimous has made some very specific statements regarding the validity of the claims made in the Roger Patterson/Bob Gimlin "Bigfoot" film of 1967 and those of us that believe that Mr. Heironimous is not being truthful in his claims have particular points we would like for him to address. Some of these points are:
Where is "the" suit? Surely such a clever hoax would have been a significant enough reason to hang on to it. Allegations made by Mr. Heironimous and others connected to this latest book attempting to debunk the Patterson film have contradicted themselves in the past as to what the suit was made of and who made it. Surely they have settled on one answer by now. Can you ask him to clarify his position at this time?
Why doesn't the suit, claimed in the book to be the "same type of suit", look even somewhat like what was recorded in the Patterson film? Anthropologists and Primatologists that have studied the Patterson film have been unable to declare the film a forgery for 37 years. This is based on information gathered through scientific study of the subjects' movements as well as other anatomical features such as muscle movement that has been observed on the subject but unable to be duplicated even today, let alone in 1967.
When will "Countdown" plan to have a representative of the scientific community as a guest to address the claims that will be made by Mr. Heironimous? I would like to suggest that you contact Dr. Jeff Meldrum at the following address and ask that he be a guest so that both sides of this fascinating phenomenon can be heard.
His contact information is as follows:
Dr. Jeff Meldrum
Dept. Biological Science
Campus Box 8007
Idaho State University
Pocatello, ID 83209-8007
JMeldrum@BFRO.net
Thank you very much for your time and I will be sure to tune in tonight.
Sincerely,
Steve S.
PULLTAB!!
QUOTE(AnotherPullTab @ Mar 22 2004, 02:03 PM)
Ok, sent my email....
This is it:
Mr. Olbermann,
I am writing with the hope that in your interview with Mr. Heironimous tonight you will ask very specific questions regarding his claims. As an MSNBC viewer I expect this from you and your network, so I know you won't let me down. Mr. Heironimous has made some very specific statements regarding the validity of the claims made in the Roger Patterson/Bob Gimlin "Bigfoot" film of 1967 and those of us that believe that Mr. Heironimous is not being truthful in his claims have particular points we would like for him to address. Some of these points are:
Where is "the" suit? Surely such a clever hoax would have been a significant enough reason to hang on to it. Allegations made by Mr. Heironimous and others connected to this latest book attempting to debunk the Patterson film have contradicted themselves in the past as to what the suit was made of and who made it. Surely they have settled on one answer by now. Can you ask him to clarify his position at this time?
Why doesn't the suit, claimed in the book to be the "same type of suit", look even somewhat like what was recorded in the Patterson film? Anthropologists and Primatologists that have studied the Patterson film have been unable to declare the film a forgery for 37 years. This is based on information gathered through scientific study of the subjects' movements as well as other anatomical features such as muscle movement that has been observed on the subject but unable to be duplicated even today, let alone in 1967.
When will "Countdown" plan to have a representative of the scientific community as a guest to address the claims that will be made by Mr. Heironimous? I would like to suggest that you contact Dr. Jeff Meldrum at the following address and ask that he be a guest so that both sides of this fascinating phenomenon can be heard.
His contact information is as follows:
Dr. Jeff Meldrum
Dept. Biological Science
Campus Box 8007
Idaho State University
Pocatello, ID 83209-8007
JMeldrum@BFRO.net
Thank you very much for your time and I will be sure to tune in tonight.
Sincerely,
Steve S.
This is it:
QUOTE
Mr. Olbermann,
I am writing with the hope that in your interview with Mr. Heironimous tonight you will ask very specific questions regarding his claims. As an MSNBC viewer I expect this from you and your network, so I know you won't let me down. Mr. Heironimous has made some very specific statements regarding the validity of the claims made in the Roger Patterson/Bob Gimlin "Bigfoot" film of 1967 and those of us that believe that Mr. Heironimous is not being truthful in his claims have particular points we would like for him to address. Some of these points are:
Where is "the" suit? Surely such a clever hoax would have been a significant enough reason to hang on to it. Allegations made by Mr. Heironimous and others connected to this latest book attempting to debunk the Patterson film have contradicted themselves in the past as to what the suit was made of and who made it. Surely they have settled on one answer by now. Can you ask him to clarify his position at this time?
Why doesn't the suit, claimed in the book to be the "same type of suit", look even somewhat like what was recorded in the Patterson film? Anthropologists and Primatologists that have studied the Patterson film have been unable to declare the film a forgery for 37 years. This is based on information gathered through scientific study of the subjects' movements as well as other anatomical features such as muscle movement that has been observed on the subject but unable to be duplicated even today, let alone in 1967.
When will "Countdown" plan to have a representative of the scientific community as a guest to address the claims that will be made by Mr. Heironimous? I would like to suggest that you contact Dr. Jeff Meldrum at the following address and ask that he be a guest so that both sides of this fascinating phenomenon can be heard.
His contact information is as follows:
Dr. Jeff Meldrum
Dept. Biological Science
Campus Box 8007
Idaho State University
Pocatello, ID 83209-8007
JMeldrum@BFRO.net
Thank you very much for your time and I will be sure to tune in tonight.
Sincerely,
Steve S.
Very well-said, APT!
QUOTE(GrandCherokee @ Mar 22 2004, 01:38 PM)
In the long run..this book..whatever its content, will change nothing.
The unbelievers will still un-believe!
The believers, with few exceptions will still believe
The chasers will still chase!
The researchers will still research!
And elusive Sassy will still elude!
The P&g film will be attacked as long as it exists!
The whole thing should be attended to, for proof, and then ignored!
The unbelievers will still un-believe!
The believers, with few exceptions will still believe
The chasers will still chase!
The researchers will still research!
And elusive Sassy will still elude!
The P&g film will be attacked as long as it exists!
The whole thing should be attended to, for proof, and then ignored!
GC! I totally agree.
QUOTE(tarran @ Mar 22 2004, 11:32 AM)
I sent an E- mail to Mr. Olbermann, Here is a copy of the E-mail I sent,
Dear Mr. Olbermann,
When interviewing this man on your show, could you please ask him some tough questions in the name of good and fair journalism?? Such as what was the suit made out of? What kind of fur or synthetic fur was used?? What kind of padding?? How was muscle movement achieved? What were the feet made of? Please Mr. Olbermann, don't just take this guys word for it like many other journalists out there are doing!! Many sasquatch researchers who have read the book, The Making Of Bigfoot, have found no proof or evidence of these people's claims, only hearsay,and take"these people's word for it"types of claims!! Also, there have been contradictions made by the author and Mr. Heironimous posted on the internet and in the book!! One such contradiction is the author Greg Long claims the suit was a gorilla suit made by Phillip Morris and sold to Roger Patterson,and that this suit was altered and was used to fake the film. But Mr. Heironimous claimed before that the suit was made by Patterson himself out of a horses hide and a fur coat!! I view you as a responsible and objective newsman and interviewer Mr. Olbermann, please ask the tough questions.
Also, it would be the fair and right thing to do, to invite respected sasquatch researchers
who have studied the film and believe in its authenticity on your show in the near future to
dispute these people's claims. It is only fair to present both sides of the argument!!
Some suggestions are Mk Davis, Daniel Perez, Dr. Jeff Meldrum, and John Green.
Thank you for your time, Mr. Olbermann!!
Sincerely Keith Schlicher
Dear Mr. Olbermann,
When interviewing this man on your show, could you please ask him some tough questions in the name of good and fair journalism?? Such as what was the suit made out of? What kind of fur or synthetic fur was used?? What kind of padding?? How was muscle movement achieved? What were the feet made of? Please Mr. Olbermann, don't just take this guys word for it like many other journalists out there are doing!! Many sasquatch researchers who have read the book, The Making Of Bigfoot, have found no proof or evidence of these people's claims, only hearsay,and take"these people's word for it"types of claims!! Also, there have been contradictions made by the author and Mr. Heironimous posted on the internet and in the book!! One such contradiction is the author Greg Long claims the suit was a gorilla suit made by Phillip Morris and sold to Roger Patterson,and that this suit was altered and was used to fake the film. But Mr. Heironimous claimed before that the suit was made by Patterson himself out of a horses hide and a fur coat!! I view you as a responsible and objective newsman and interviewer Mr. Olbermann, please ask the tough questions.
Also, it would be the fair and right thing to do, to invite respected sasquatch researchers
who have studied the film and believe in its authenticity on your show in the near future to
dispute these people's claims. It is only fair to present both sides of the argument!!
Some suggestions are Mk Davis, Daniel Perez, Dr. Jeff Meldrum, and John Green.
Thank you for your time, Mr. Olbermann!!
Sincerely Keith Schlicher
Way to go tarran,great letter,I hope Keith will read it and ask the tough questions
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Way to go tarran,great letter,I hop Keith will read it and ask the tough questions
Thanks Dodge Boys
Great job, tarran!!!
Painthorse, AnotherPullTab,tarran - thanks so much.
This is really a great board.
And now, we wait...
Roger
This is really a great board.
And now, we wait...
Roger
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