Now, I know these questions is going get some people thinking.

How old is Bigfoot? How long does it live? What can we base this on?

This should get the the old brain cell juices flowing. I have never really read anywhere or seen a article speculating about the age of this animal.

The speculation I've read puts their age at somewhere between gorillas and humans (40 to 70 years).

Personally, 40 to 50 years sounds about right to me due to the environment they're living in and the stress they must have to go through on a daily basis.

Not that I have any proof... but 35-45 years, as a guess.

How old?
A. Depends on when he/she was born.

How long does it live?
A. It lives until the day it dies.

What can we base this on?
A. Logic


OR do you mean the species as a whole?

Tug's life expectancy figure is close to that of the gorilla. I'd say that's a good starting point for the guesswork.

It would be interesting to know something about infant mortality statistics. That would tell us a lot.

When you say how old is bigfoot, are you asking when it evolved as a distinct species?

-Vern

how long does bigfoot live? Without thinking about it, i'd say 40-50 yrs. There are so many variables that could effect that, like natural disasters, accidents, environmental stress, the mother's stress and nutrition while carrying it, birth defects...meetings with humans... I am wondering about whether its giant size has any effect on life span. I know that in dogs the giant breeds live shorter lives than smaller animals. However, that is mostly due to homo sapiens tinkering with the dogs' genetic make-up over a period of time rather than resulting from millenia of adapting to environment and habitat. I too would love to know about infant mortality as well as how long the gestation period is and how long the young are nursed and otherwise cared for. But as i seem to be saying these days--it's become my mantra. I....don't....know....

Yes. They are probably prone to all sorts of maladies( There's an old word for ya) because of their height and great weight. Imagine how they must be walking a fine line, in having enough bone mass to support their weight.
And if their inner physiology is like a humans, then their organs are probably slightly larger and even more susceptible to failure...unless they have one heck of a metabolism? And who knows, maybe they do!
I recall how all of the renowned giants had some sort of affliction because of their size..so who is to say that the bigger Bf's are not more susceptible, as well, to disease and a general shorter life.
For every question there is another hundred!

Well, maybe not GC.
Here is a website that lists the life span of some animals.

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/natbltn/400-499/nb486.htm

Listed here, from the article, are the life spans of selected mammals showing that the larger ones have longer life spans.

MAMMALS YEARS
Elephant 69
Horse 50
Hippopotamus 49
Chimpanzee 40
Grizzly Bear 32
Bison 30
Lion 30
Tiger 25
Elk 22
Mountain Lion 20
Beaver 19
Wolf 16
Squirrel 16
Chipmunk 12
Cottontail 10
House Mouse 4

Right on Blackdog!
But these are not bipeds, who come with a whole world of possible dangers because of the way they are built!
The weight on a spinal column of a 7ft high 400 lb biped has to be intense! It makes one wonder how many things can break down and go wrong from the simpliest of infections to outright injuries.
Spinal deformities..etc!

Well they dont drink,smoke,gamble,chase women(or men),pay taxes,have morgages,alimony,eat fast-food,watch cable,sit in front of pc's for hours at a time,change diapers at 2:30 in the morning,drive thru rush hour traffic,work over-time,sit up all night waiting for theire teenager's to comme home.

Id say about 200 years...and i chalenge anybody to proove me otherwise...pffffffffffff

Beaver, you just made me realize how come I feel so old and tired.

Ditto!

I'm 6'0 tall....200 lbs
So by your logic I am more prone to skeletal problems than a person 5’ tall at 100 lbs?
Show me facts to support that.
What difference does it make how big a body is if the physiology dictates that they grow that large? And I’m not talking any sort of growth problems.
You can’t compare apples to oranges or humans to sasquatch and think that the same thing applies. You are breaking your cardinal rule by doing that.
How tall were the first bipeds?..3 feet tall?
And how tall were people in biblical days?...5 feet tall? (Do you want a quote?)
Gravity is the bummer. It will tear down a body if the body is not built too support it.
But who’s to say that a bipedal animal that normally grows to 7-8 feet tall does not have the body structure to support that weight?
I would say that this animal did not just pop up yesterday, and therefore unless the animals that are reported are all suffering from some sort of thyroid problem I would think that their bodies are well adapted to supporting the kind of weight that is reported with very little difficulties.
But that’s just one mans opinion.

Blackdog,Feb 27 2004, 11:59 PM]



I wouldn't know. If you have questions about your skeletal system, then I would advise you to see your doctor. As for providing facts this is your suposition..not mine.



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My cardinal rule is not to give Bigfoot human attributes of the mind or heart! Never said anything about physiology!



I have no idea!



Your word for it is good enough for me!



Not me.



And you are definitly entitled to your opinion.

How old is Bigfoot? if you look at it from an evolutionary aspect or point of view the subject is very wide open, and even with the evidence available most can only speculate. But discussion and ideas are a good way to formulate conclusions.

Exactly Lone Wolf!
I find this to be one of the most facinating questions ever asked about Bigfoot. And the answers are all speculation.. pipe dreams.. and what ifs. But I never thought about the inner workings of a 7ft 650 lb giant before.
Dr. Fahrenbach indicates that this weight is the average for Bfs..this being of course in times of plenty! The Dr. continues his speculation by inferring Bf who feed off their own mass during 'lean' times..become that way themselves!
Hence, the reports of tall, skinny hair covered giants.
Therefor, if one assumes that Bf is a hunter/gatherer, then one also should be aware that food is not always going to be in abundant supply...so my question is..how many times can a Bigfoot go through these phases of well fed/emancipation.. before the inner organs are damaged. Or are they damaged?
How does a sudden change in weight and vertical pressure of such intensity (650 .lbs) affect organ functions? Is Bigfoot's weight, a factor, in its lifespan?
Of course weight is a factor in everyone's lifespan. But for the sake of speculating we will only deal with the Bf weight average which is 650 .lbs..according to Dr. Fahrenbach.
And let us take this a step further...what are the odds of a long lifespan if a Bf's foot, or feet, become damaged....no matter how slightly. The feet seem to be the very core of its existance. No big feet..no Bigfoot! Questions! Questions! Questions!
No one knows what stage of evolution Bigfoot is at, or how long it has been around. For all we know..Bf could be in its twilight years as a 'dead end ' experiment by nature. Or it could be the newest of primate life forms to appear on earth.So saying that Bf has been here for a long time at this weight so it must not be detrimental to his health would be a very broad statement ignoring a lot of variables.

That is just my slant on it! Anyone?

i wanted to elaborate a bit on something grand cherokee said earlier about the stresses on the body caused by bipedalism. Humans have essentially the same anatomy as four-legged omnivores or carnivores. It's the same basic skeletal structure and the same basic organ systems. The musculature, which develpoed to support the skeleton and the internal organs of quadrapeds, was developed over a looooooooooooong period of time from an evolutionary standpoint. Bipedalism is a very recent change and the musculature to support the skeleton and organ systems hasn't changed in any revolutionary way that i know of, so we now have everything in our chest and abdomen shifted 90 degrees, from horizontal to vertical. Instead of having our guts sitting comfortably slung under our backbone, we now have everything stacked on top of each other and sliding down the frontside of our skeletons. (the only break we get is that the chest is separated from the abdomen by the diaphragm--and i don't remember if all mammals have diiaphragms--and even that help isn't perfect because the guts can be pushed up into the chest in the area where the esophagus passes through tthe diaphragm into the abdomen)There's an awful lot of pressure internally and the bigger you are the more pressure there is. This 90 degree shift in the orietation of the body results in hernias, which can occur in any number of places in the abdominal area, pot bellies, abdominal obstructions, abdominal varicose veins, hemorrhoids, and probably alot of other stuff i can't think of. Pregnancies are especially difficult because we don't have the musculature to adequately support them. We really need big straps of muscles running from groin to shoulders to do that job effectively. Anyway, my point is that if bigfoot is not quite a bit different from other primates, including humans, the stresses on the internal organs from gravity probably are alot greater, i would think.

(and i have to say here that this not all original thinking on my part. This is information i gleaned back during my child-bearing years as i was reading and reading everything i could about pregnancy before i actually became pregnant.)

The diaphragm is a necessity off all air breathing animals as far as I know. It's the contraction and relaxation of this muscle that causes our lungs to inhale and exhale. Think of the lungs as just empty bags, when your diaphragm muscle contracts, it flattens out over the abdomen area, pulling itself out of the chest cavity. This causes reduced pressure inside the chest cavity, and the outside air rushes in to equalize that pressure. When the diaphragm relaxes, it expands up into the chest area, forcing the air out. This is why injuries, such as puncture wounds, to the chest area are so dangerous. If the air from the outside can get in through a puncture wound, the pressure equalizes, then the diaphragm can no longer inflate and deflate the lungs, both lungs collapse and we die without immediate intervention. So if you are ever in the wild, and you get a puncture wound to your chest, stick your finger in it.. it could save your life.

I have no skeletal problems, if any come up I'll take your advice. As for it being my supposition, I thought it was yours, if I misinterpreted what you where saying, I'm sorry, but……
and

……it sounds, to me, that’s what you are saying.

Again my apologies if I misunderstood, maybe you could have been more specific. So you are comparing physiologies?



Me neither, that’s why I asked…. anyone?



I was taking your word for it.




As are you, I just missed some of the logic and consistency in your argument.

I'll give you this one though.
Very true many species have gone extinct because of failure to adapt. Right now there isn't any evidence to show how long they have been on earth.

Australopithecus afarensis will take you back to nearly 4 mybp, and specimens range from a little over three feet tall to about four and a half feet, though there may be some question as to whether all the specimens are properly classified as the same species. There are arguably even earlier bipedal species, but I don't know of any specimens with enough postcranial fossils to permit a very confident estimate of height.

-Vern

Maybe I should have been more clear about where I was coming from, as I was in a later posting, Blackdog!
I was wondering aloud..(or typing aloud) about the weight of a Bigfoot and its effect on a Bigfoot's internal organs. I did make a comparison about human and Bf 'organ' size..but not a comparison of bodies in general! Hence my confusion at your comparing a body size in general with another.
My thoughts were focused around your average 7ft./650.lb BF! If I appeared to make a comparison between Bfs and humans, then it was through my inability to say clearly, what I meant. It was not a willful attempt to do so.
I do thank you for calling me on that one,if you perceived that to be the case!

Hey GC I'm with Blackdog on that one. I'm 6'8" 290 lbs. Yeah I finally got a bad neck but I a very heavy load (12000) lbs of payload came straight down on me and all I have is 3 blown discs. Yeah it hurts, and if I wouldn't have had such a large diameter neck (25inches) it probably would have killed me. The doctor said I was lucky to have been so built up. It was probably the reason I am still kickin' man. BTW the load was on a forklift and still on the forks. but traveling at a free fall with the hydraulic valve wide open. and it pinned me there are still divots in the asphalt where my knees hit. and they aint all that bad i can still walk. so I think that the sasquatches are in pretty good shape.

i agree with fishbone