I've got a question.

Is John Green's sasquatch sightings data from Apes Among Us included in the BFRO database?

I'm hoping that it's not. Not that Green's data are any less legitimate. There's just a simple test of reliability I can do if they are separate data streams.

I imagine that they would be, in one form or other, perhaps by even a different investigator.
I mean Green does not have copyright on these sightings included in his books or whatever.

To the best of my knowledge, John Green's reports are not included in the database.

Maybe another BFRO member can verify that but as for me I've never seen a report on the public, or internal, database with his name on it.

And from what I understand John has a pile of reports (in the thousands, I believe) in his possession.

Personally, I'd love nothing better than to be able to hang out with him for about two weeks and just sit (with my mouth firmly clamped shut) and listen.

Well, I'm not a member of the BFRO, but I did contribute a few database entries from John Green's reports.

Like these:

http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_article.asp?id=62
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_article.asp?id=63
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_article.asp?id=64
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_article.asp?id=65
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_article.asp?id=66

I suspect some of the older reports may have also come from Green's book, though I haven't looked.

RayG

Here! Here!
I remember pulling into Willow Creek and making a left at the Ohmah statue and seeing John Green crossing the street. It was exciting. I rolled down the window and said "hi". He returned the greeting. It was just that kind of weekend.

Yeah, a couple of days just letting him "yarn"...it'd be the best!

I entered some early ones from John Green when they pertained to other ones that I had investigated at the same time or that I was the primary investigator to begin with. I would think no more than 2 or 3 of them were like this and then only in Washington State. I think these also went mostly into the Media section for the respective county, again, only if I didn't personally investigate it.

The Heryford report is one of them. Why?

It's a reliability check.

The frequency of sightings by state in the Green data line up very well with the frequency of data in the BFRO database, even after you account for the difference in total number of sightings. If the databases are largely separate (and it looks like they are with a handful of exceptions), that tells us whatever is being measured by one is also being measured by the other.

Reliability isn't the same as validity, so please no one get in a huff about that. Both terms have narrower technical meanings in natural and social sciences. Validity requires reliability, but reliability doesn't require validity.

Here's are some undergraduate class notes from a social scientist Ph.D. at Arizona State University explaining reliability, validity, and correlation. If you want a dry read, knock yourself out.

Reliability, validity, and correlation

Ok....this strikes me suddenly as a rather important, and possilbly overlooked, aspect of study...(overlooked at least, in that I have not seen anything along this line really discussed before).
Statistical analysys using seperate data streams to test for data reliablility..something to chew on for sure!
Thank you Judaculla...I think you are on to something here.

Is this true GC?

I'm sure GC was being sarcastic. If its a printed book in the U.S. it is almost certain to be copyright protected, if not by the author then by the publishing house that produces it.

He did write to me and tell me I could have access to his database, but I'd have to fly all the way to Canada and convert them from Dos files! I wonder if I could just use some of his already posted info since I have his verbal permission? I guess that's a question I should ask him...

Thanks for the input BM

David

John Green told me that anything of his can be used by anyone. As long as they quote their source of course!

Thanks for the info G.C.

David