I'm so glad I bought it. THis DVD is worth EVERY penny! It is the best thing I've seen in years. Totally professional and credible. Absolutely looks at Sasquatch from a purely scientific view and comes through with flying colors. You ALL need to see this film. It is a MUST for those curios or even scepticle off Bigfoot. Hats off to all those involved in this film. I will watch it for hours to come in the future. I am so stoked right now! This was a rare treat!!!!!!!!!

What did you think of the memorial day footage? In my opinion it looks like it's carrying something in it's right arm like a football.
I don't think it's carrying a football, where's the line? where's the qb, where's the defense?, , but just carrying something in the way you would run with a football.
It also seems as if the left arm is used a lot more for the running motion than the right, as would be the case if you're running with something heavier in 1 arm.
The smaller object seems to be darker brown than the creature.
It's also a possible reason that it doesn't move faster than it does, if it had to be more careful with an infant.


disclaimer
"the above opinions are not mine but were related to me with telapathy from a very credible bigfoot."

I agree. The Legend meets Science is a great piece. Very professional and convincing.....

I own the DVD too. It's worth the money if you are into bigfoot.

Glad you liked it. Watch for LMS II and I hope everyone will also like the Willow Creek Bigfoot Symposium DVD set which I am working feverishly on to complete by the end of next month. You will be able to see some of the same people in LMS I but in real-time, unscripted (not that LMS was scripted), and with a whole lot more to say and show.

ok..where do I buy this..and do they take paypal?

As far as I know, the only place is the BFRO web site.

The S:LMS DVD is well worth the money, and I can't wait for S:LMSII !!

My only critiscim of S:LMS is the skelatal reconstruction of patty - I think Doug did a much better explanation of the workings of the skelatal reconstruction at the willow creek symposium than was presented on the documentary.

Would have been nice I guess to have had the money to get a more professional reconstruction done, but it really wasn't too bad considering.

Can we expect to see something on the skookum cast in the next documentary - I for one would like the 'elk' comparison from the symposium shown on TV.

I'd like more on the Skookum cast too...a much more close-up view, with the landmarks individually pointed out. For the life of me, even with the shapes of the landmarks outlined the way they've done it on BFRO's website, the only thing I can make out for sure when I look at it is the heel/Achilles. I think it's just because the pictures are small and it's hard to see much contrast between the "ground" and "body part" areas, so I think getting good, closeup camera shots (video, as opposed to stills) with someone pointing out various suspected parts would really be helpful.

I can't wait for LMS II either!!!

You are Just To Cute!

Part TWO! Sign Me up!


Glad to see ya posting here DDA!

Belle

Me too, I think it just might get a few of the "fence sitting" skeptics to put at least one leg down on our side of the fence.
Can't wait for part 2!!!

What can we expect in part 2? Any new video or pics things of that nature? I loved the first one and will try to buy the symposium dvd when I get some cash. Thanks

Damnit.. I said before I couldn't bring myself to pay that much for a DVD.. but I did. Ordered it from the site about 10 minutes ago.. Soon I will be basking in the joy that is "extra features".

heheh

Damn though.. $10.50 shipping on it which brought it to $40

$10.50 to ship.???????? For a DVD?

WOW! How do they come up with that figure?

I would like to know the same. That baby better not have a scratch on it for shipping that high.

'Shipping fee' is the biggest SCAM going on the direct order market. It's a their 'dirty little secret' for 'maximizing profit'. And I'm a Republican.

"Harry"

Etheral,
You in Canada too? It's not the shipping that bugs me so much is the crappy exchange rate and possible customs fees.
Let's see...30 + 10.50 = 40.50 x 1.3 for exchange = 52.65 + 7% GST = 56.34 Canadian dollars. ugh.

shipping AND handling. you know how much it costs to put that little DVD into a package, right? very labor intensive. the shipping is probably less than $2 bucks, but i bet it costs them $40 an hour to get those DVDs from one package to another.

You think thats bad - they charge $20 to ship to the UK.

When Bipto sends me a video cassette (as he often does, bless him), it only costs him just $1.85 in postage.

That means BFRO are using envelopes that cost $18.15 !!!!!!

"That means BFRO are using envelopes that cost $18.15 !!!!!!"

That explains the 1200$ for their research outings.

Yeah, I'd say that's about right.

Why don't they just be honest about it and state, UP FRONT, that the DVD is $38, and $2.45 to ship.....instead of $29.95, and $10.50 to ship.??????

At least they'd be honest about how much the &*%$*% thing costs without laying the blame on the post office!!

After the *$1200 to camp* ordeal, you'd think they'd have learned about pulling this kind of crap!!!

You know, if you don't want to pay the price, you can always take your chances that you will find a used copy on ebay or somewhere. Facts are that the BFRO is the only place you can get a new, unused copy. They are the ones who did the project, and that's just the way it is. In my opinion, which I'm sure nobody actually gives a sh*t about, the DVD is worth EVERY penny it cost to get it to me. Nothing that's been done before comes close to comparing to it's quality and the information it supplies.

Have at it.

Agreed Jaylee, plus I look at it this way: This DVD is destined to be a "classic" in the realm of Sasquatch-related media. Look at the prices people are paying for some of the older books, especially John Green's. Twenty years from now, people will probably bidding up close to $200 for this on eBay! NOT that I'd ever consider selling, mind you , but this might help to put it in perspective and help justify the cost of grabbing a copy now, while one still can. For me, it was very well worth it.

Wait a minute, isn't the DVD being offered through White Wolf? Don't they set the price?

Does anybody know how much, if any, of each sales goes to the BFRO?

I just recently watched it! Mountain Lady was generous enough to invite me over to watch it with her! Well, O.K., I kinda bribed her with lunch..... .......... but it was well worth it!

You will be happy about purchasing it, however much you had to pay........after you get to see it!

I went back and pulled my credit card statement and it was charged by Whitewolf. Huh, guess the bitchin's been at the wrong people.

Get a grip Quake. Jaylee's right, mine was shipped from
Minnesota, and the total came to slightly less than $35.
Note I'm in Maryland, so Eth I don't know why it cost more
to ship to VA...

Man, that foot in mouth tastes pretty yucky, huh?

I have already seen the show that aired on the Discovery Channel, so what beyond that and the extra footage is there that makes it worth the money?

There's a bit more info on the Freeman and Memorial Day footages plus the skeletal walking segment is much more detailed. But the main thing is just getting to have it.

Is it worth the money? As always, caveat emptor.

(Which reminds me that I'm going to have to kill my little brother if he doesn't return my copy very soon.)

I am not saying anything about what they ask for it. Classic, or not, that is not the point.........

All I am saying is that they should say, UP FRONT, what they want for the thing, and not *tack on* an additional $7 or $8 by overstating the shipping cost.......BRFO, White WOlf, or ~whoever~ sells it....


No foot went in my mouth, so I wouldn't know about the taste..!

The best thing about the DVD version of Legend Meets Science is the Patterson/ Gimlin footage - as complete and clear as can be seen with today's technology... slow motion loops, zoom footage. I can't wait to someday watch the DVD on High Defintion TV.

LOL!

I know you didn't have foot in da' mouth. You weren't the one who said it was da' BFRO.

Now don't anyone go making things worse by shooting him/her self in the foot!

Something like this?



or this?

On a side note...

I received my credit card statement the other day and had this weird charge for Metro Moulded Parts in Coon Rapids MN for $35.45.

I called my credit card company and they said that was an auto parts and accessories business. Well, I haven't bought any auto parts from Minnesota, so I put the charge in dispute.

I got online and found the number for the company. They specialize in weatherstripping and rubber car parts (hoses, gaskets).

I gave them a call, got transferred and had to tell my story a couple of times.

The third person I spoke to said, "How much was the charge?"

"$35.45"

"Did you purchase a Sasquatch DVD?"



You could have knocked me over with a feather. That was the last thing I was expecting to hear from an autoparts distributor.

Apparently, their company is the distributor for Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science. I have no idea why. But, the lady I talked to sounded like she had gotten a fair number of calls regarding unusual credit card charges.

Now that you mention it, that's what my credit card said, too.

What is the address for White Wolf?
I guess i'm gonna have to just buckle under and get it

You won't regret buying it Belle, even though it is a little pricey.

Gotta say...$5 shipping for a DVD is a bit harsh. We get less then that to ship a firearm most places in the U.S.!!!
But..I just went ahead and ordered it anyway!

Now where did hubby put his wallet?

Now that is strange. Here's the address mine was shipped from:

Whitewolf Entertainment, Inc.
11610 Jay St NW
Coon Rapids, MN
55448


Just how big a place is Coon Rapids, MN?

Lovely Coon Rapids, MN!

BFRO's site says they ship UPS. You get what you pay for, BFRO is not spiking the cost and attributing it to shipping, it actually does cost around 10 bucks to ship something of that size by UPS ground. At least you get tracking and good service.

I wonder, though, if I could pick up a copy in a store somewhere...?

Metro Moulded Parts is Doug Hajicek's family business, started by his grandfather in 1918.
A Brief History of Metro Moulded Parts
Whitewolf Entertainment is the company that Doug started to make natural history television documentaries.

I once received a 3.5 inch floppy disk from Hewlett-Packard that was absurdly packed into a one-cubic-foot box, with lots of packing peanuts, too! It's crazy--it's symbolic of how people and institutions adopt a one-size-fits-all formula for interacting with others and solving problems, just because mechanically applying the formula requires less mental stress on their part; they don't have to have to think about individual cases, just apply their rubber stamp.

One simple way to improve the world would be for the gov't to require that the software companies that supply warehouse-management programs to industry add a module that figures out the smallest size box to use for the contents being shipped (to minimize material waste and production of garbage (packing materials)). Here's a reasonable measure to improve the environment (and save industry money into the bargain). I wonder why the enviro-nuts haven't suggested something like this? (Maybe I've already supplied the reason.)

As far as shipping DVDs goes, they weigh only a few ounces, and could be shipped by 1st class mail for $1; the cost of labor & material for the package should likewise be only $1. I guess the drawback is that some mail deliverers will try to bend such a package to fit inside a cramped urban mailbox, rather than attempt to hand-deliver it to the addressee, which would then ruin the DVD. Oh well.

Well, I just ordered it and it came to $35.45.

But damn, I tried to pre-order the Symposium DVD a couple of weeks ago and my paypal account would not open with my log in and password (don't know why) and now they are not taking pre-orders anymore!! The pre-order was for only $40 and now they will be charging $65. I know I will pay the higher price, cause I want the DVD, but DAMN! I could have saved $15 bucks!!

Really!?! Boy, glad I got my order in quick! I bet they got a much bigger response than they expected...

I s the BFRO trying to make more money on this. They are really getting on my last nerve