From reading a lot of encounters and hearing many stories over the last few weeks (I'm new), it seems that a BF is can be very light on its toes. Although it has "heavy footsteps", it also has been seen to jog (Memorial day video) and run. The thought of huge creatures in the forest that we can't seem to find or see is very scary. What makes it worse is the thought that they could outrun us.

They are obviously tall, muscular and in shape, but they are very heavy. It would take a lot of bone and joint strength to be able to take the abuse of running at the speeds some have been reported to move at.

Its scary to imagine that there are large bipeds in the forests, that are faster, stronger and bigger then a human being.

What do you guys think? How fast could a BF move? From your own encounters or from what you have picked up on.

I have no idea.

Whatever was shown on the memorial day video, was outrun by a human sprinter during the making of Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science.

All I know is that it would be able to outrun me easily.


Reminds me of a sign I saw on a field in Ireland when I was a kid - it read:

"If you can run across this field in 10 seconds, don't bother - the bull can do it in 9 !"

where can i see this memorial day footage?

BFRO or the Special Sasquatch, Legend Meets Science. BFRO will
let you know where to get the tape.

Belle

You know, I've only ever seen it on Legend Meets Science. Has anybody ever seen it on the net?

not me - Roger Thomas's website would be the likely place though - he doesn't seem to worry too much about copyright law

just checked - it isn't there

Bipto, I tried for a long time to find it, and was finally told by someone with the BFRO that is was only available on LMS.

I don't have any first hand knowledge about how fast they might run but from the many various reports I've read over the years I would guess they could run between 25-35 MPH or so. Many reports indicate them running out of visible sight, covering a good distance in just seconds.

If I had to guess, I would say at least 35-40 mph (I'm being conservative here). That is based on the physical structure of the BF that I saw. The stride is a major factor in my determining. They have a huge stride. Also...the muscles. The one I saw was the most muscular human-shaped thing I have ever seen. I would compare their musculature to a silverback or a lion. There was no fat to distort the muscles. Every little detail, down to the smallest and most insignificant muscles were very pronounced. It may vary from individual to individual. I havent seen every BF.

And, as unbelievable as it may sound, I wouldnt doubt it if there were some individual BFs that could run faster, including the one I saw.

If they are 8 feet tall and can take steps twice as long as mine when they walk, I wouldn't be surprised if they could practically outrun me walking, certainly up the hills and through the brush that they are usually seen in. There are stories that they can keep pace with a horse or snowmobile. That would put them over 30 miles an hour. Given the fact that they are barefoot and probably up to 800 pounds or more, that is pretty amazing stuff. They would have to be so athletic that they are way beyond human in their strength. The forces on their feet, knees and joints would be tremendous, even if they didn't run that fast and any injury might be catastrophic. If bigfoot is real then I think their bones, joints, and muscles would be adapted to thier giant size. Dr. Grover Krantz noted some of these adaptations in footprints and the Patterson film.

one report claims that the Sas was seen running right along side of a heard of dear.
Another startes that they have seen one keep pace just behind a lone fawn.

How fast is that?

Belle
http://www.gcbro.com/TNchea0001.html

There was a report on the BFRO about a kid riding up the road on a dirtbike going b*lls to the wall and a bigfoot was supposedly keeping up right behind it.

It didn't state the speed, but even small dirtbikes are pretty quick so I am sure it was moving out. I just can't see a creature 7 to 9+ feet, weighing 500+ pounds being able to run that fast. I realize they have differing bone structure from us, but it stills seems crazy that one can run 25+ mph.

Speaking of speed. 'Knurd' had this line in his/her signature.

"I don't have to out-run Bigfoot...I just have to out-run you!!!"

Cracks me up.

If you jog a two minute lap on a regular size fitness track you're going 6-7 MPH. Jogging 10 MPH is a one and a half minute lap. So would it be totally unreasonable for BF to jog around 20 MPH since reports have mentioned on BFRO that a road was crossed in three or four steps? Just food for thought since their legs are longer they could cover more ground with fewer steps?

A big grizzly can run fast. Real fast - 40 mph. And for a pretty long time, if sufficienty motivated. I'd say a sas can do as well or better. A long bipedal stride and gigantic glutes and quads are a big help. 'Nuff said.

Reports I've seen claiming 70 mph are laughable, though. If that's true, they'd make hellacious rickshaw drivers. Maybe that's why the Chinese sent a funded expedition and we didn't - we just love our cars too much to change.

Well this is my two cents worth-

I have been a distance coach for 12 years. In addition to Track and Field. Speed is lees of a factor with stride length as it is with how fast you can get that foot back down in front efficiently. Stride length is a big difference in simple striding. I am 6' 2 and I can walk down a track faster than my nephew who is a third grader. My guess is that some Bfs are faster than others and might prefer to run instead of just walking out of sight. I would be curious to see what is the sustained speed of any Bf when it is going for distance. I am sure the acceleration is incredible compared to our own kind of sprinting. But how long could that last ? Even distance runners have to train for those kinds of longer sprints/races to last for more than a minute or two. I am also curious as to what kind of oxygen exchange is in place for a given Bf to cruise up hills and across valleys and possibly swim ( thinking of the Columbia River ) with apparent ease ? Could it be that a large enough group could rundown a Bf like the "Tortoise and the Hare" ? Even with an adrenal rush for flight the muscles would give out at some point. At least I hope they would...

How fast can a Bigfoot move?

Here's a quote from Robert Alley's new book, "Raincoast Sasquatch" where the eyewitness, a Ketchikan, Alaskan women, was able to time a sasquatch running beside her vehicle, which is a rare occurrence.

"One night in July, 1984, I was driving with two other people from Hollis, Prince of Wales Island, to Thorne Bay, also on the east side of the island. It was late, around eleven o'clock, and we were heading up a long straight stretch of highway less than ten miles from Thorne Bay. As we headed along up a hill with my driver's window down, I caught a whiff of some awful smell and rolled the window up. Right then, we noticed a tall figure running just along the shoulder of the road beside the car, running like a man. We were doing about thirty-five miles per hour. In the edge of the headlights just fifteen feet to my side, we could see a creature about seven feet tall and covered all over with dark hair. It was swinging its arms like a man but was a lot heavier built. The slope of the road was about five to ten degrees I would guess, and it kept up with the car for about ten seconds. It didn't make any sound or anything that we could hear, but I have to tell you I was scared. We sped up and it seemed to veer off as we left it behind. We didn't stop till we got into Thorne Bay later that night. We didn't tell anyone because you can imagine what they would say. That was the only time I ever saw anything like that anywhere."

In this case the Bigfoot was timed running at 35 miles per hour in a slight uphill incline beside a highway. Seems reasonably possible for such speed coming from a Bigfoot because of the lack of obstacles found running beside a highway.
Perhaps as Alley theorizes, some Bigfoot just may have a fascination for cars and trucks as young boys always do.

I think they would be as fast as humans, and possibly a little faster if they have longer legs and strides. I would think the younger ones would move faster than the full grown mature adults. A lot of people accept the Patterson footage as authentic, and i just can't imagine the bigfoot(real or not) in that film running off through those trees at a very high rate of speed. So i would say they're a little faster than most humans.

In the story An Alaska Mystery one was said to be chasing a herd of caribou? If someone knew how fast caribou could run this might help out. A brown bear can start running at forty miles an hour from a dead stop. They have much shorter legs than a bigfoot. I would guess they could outrun any human who has ever lived. Hope I never have to test that theory.

lol I don't have to outrun a bear or a sasquatch, I just have to outrun you. I love that saying.

I guess this is relative. Interesting to look at other speeds.

I was eating one of my kids Fruit by the Foot last night and it had speeds of different things on it. You're supposed to match them up. I am assuming they are correct since it is for educating children.

1. Tortoise- .23 mph
2. Tropical Cockroach- 3.5 mph
3. Child- 14 mph
4. Grizzly Bear- 30 mph
5. Dromiceiomimus Dinosaur- 40 mph
6. Ostrich- 45 mph
7. Pronghorn Antelope- 55 mph
8. Cheetah- 62 mph

I was reading this thread and I realized that something I learned doing a Lost Person Search training. One of the formulas used was figuring out the distance traveled by the person who was lost when they were last seen.

basicly the formula follows the area of a circle 3.14radius2 ( do not have that neat character for pi)

the average hiker (adult) with pack can travel 1.5 to 2 mph

so if take 3.14 x (1.5)2

(1.5)2 = 3

3.14 x 3 = 9.42 square miles

so say we apply that to the guess of 35 mph for BF

(35)2 = 70

3.14 X 70 = 219.8 square miles

now this is not a true figure of distance traveled for you have to figure in terrain and such. It does however shows that if BF moves at 35 mph that he will cover a larger distance than we can.

just some food for thought.

Because bigfoot is hairy, some have said that bigfoot couldn't have much endurance. Humans have one of the most efficient cooling systems of any animal. We are built vertically reducing our exposure to the midday sun. We have sweat glands all over our body. Dogs for example cool themselves by panting because they have fur for warmth and sweating in fur is not a very effective way to cool yourself. Bigfoot's hairyness argues against them sweating significantly. Bigfoot are very stinky so maybe that is an indication that they sweat like humans, but the jury is still out on that one. African Negro's are generally tall and thin relative to eskimos. A tall skinny body has more surface area relative to the volume (weight) of the person. A short fat person will tend to overheat faster than a tall skinny one. Bigfoot are generally described as big, but not skinny. This indicates they have relatively little surface area for their weight. This would likely lead to them overheating relatively quickly unless they have other mechanisms for cooling. Neanderthals had very big noses and some have speculated that their noses helped to cool them. For a neanderthal to sweat in pursuit of its prey in the extreme cold environment that it lived in might be fatal. Reproductions of Patty's face do indicate a fairly large but flat nose and this is consistent with most sightings. I personally believe the evidence points to bigfoot as being both fast and having a lot of endurance but exactly how they manage that is mystery.

But they are really tall, which adds surface area & helps with the cooling? Also, by being active at night, they benefit from the much cooler air during those hours. In colder geographic areas, such as up north, or in the Himalayas, they can possibly tolerate the daytime temps a little better?

Don't forget that golillas and chimps have very short legs, and yet can catapult themsevles around at amazing speed because they pull themselves along with their arms on anything they can get hold of. I imagine that a bigfoot could also use this method when moving through dense vegitation.

Of all the reports I've read it certainly seems that bigfoot has no problem with speed .

It seems like Bigfoot would move much slower than say "a deer". Humans who reach 7 feet tall and carry over 400 pounds tend to move much slowwer that normal sized humans. "The Big Show" is WWE wrestleing is 7 foot and weighs 500 pounds....he is very slow! Why wouldn't Bigfoot move in the same manner? Yes, elephants and rhino can be fast, but they have 4 legs. However, gorillas weight more than humans and can move quicker! Maybe this is the key...Bigfoot is an ape. Much stronger and faster that humans, although taller & heavier.

To run doun a deer you need speed.The odor of a BF would tell the deer he is near because the deer has a great scense of smell so how would BF bring doun a deer? speed.A bear at full stride can cover a football feild in 7 secounds.hard to believe but it`s a fact.Plus the stride of a BF would also mean speed up or doun any hill.

I'll mention a couple of points that were made a month or two ago on another thread: One BF might stampede deer toward others that are waiting in ambush. Or he might drop onto the back of one from a branch. BF's odor might not be a problem--it might be intermittant, as with gorillas. Odor is reported in only 25% or so of sighting cases, even in very close sightings.

Top speed documented was 45 mph, as reported in the book Raincoast Sasquatch
so, who knows?

or endurance.

humans have more endurance than anything else on the planet so I imagine a BF could not only be quick but could possible have staying power also