Sean V
Dec 25 2003, 03:38 PM
We have all heard people who claim that UFO's and BF are related. Perhaps even that BFs come from UFOs. I honestly believe that the two have nothing to do with each other whatsoever. Last night I was reading through a bunch of old BF reports and a half-assed 'theory' came to mind.
If a large, bright UFO landed in the dark woods at night, and a Sasquatch was within 1 mile of it, do you not think that the creature would go and check out what was going on, that it would not want to satisfy it's curiousity? I believe that the creature would want to. Now, Joe Camper sees this UFO land and he also goes to check it out, when he gets there he sees the UFO sitting in a clearing, but he also spots Sasquatch walking around outside the UFO. Joe Camper turns tail and gets the hell out of there, but on the way home he starts thinking about what happened. He saw two 'unknowns', two 'mysteries' in the same area at the same time, but he can't explain what he saw so he just lumps the two together, and for him they become one: "Bigfoot comes from UFOs". To him it seems like a reasonable explaination for what he has experienced, so to him it becomes the truth.
Now I'm not a believer in the UFO/Sasquatch connection. I think that the idea of Sasquatch coming from a UFO is complete and total rubbish. I just believe that the two are mistakenly placed together too often.
This actually could be what happens, or it could just be a wild idea. That's why it's called a theory.
JMO
HarryHenderson
Dec 25 2003, 03:55 PM
I think that's a VERY plausible theory. As is often the case, things are not always as they appear and that (your theory) could be a perfectly rational explanation for the supposed Bigfoot/UFO association. There's really no reason why two separate 'mysteries' couldn't converge in such a way. Too bad we know so little about either mystery so as to truly be able to connect-the-dots.
"Harry"
RogerKni
Dec 25 2003, 04:18 PM
I think the UFO/BF connection is one to put on the back burner for a time when we're running out of anomalies, but I wouldn't completely scoff at it. Anyway, what may be a plausible explanation for some % of UFO/BF reports is a desire by some "investigators" (whom we all agree are generally "suspect") to "hit a two-bagger" and "run up their score" by filing reports on two events.
bipto
Dec 25 2003, 04:26 PM
Somewhere on This Old Forum, I said pretty much the same thing, SFS. Makes a pile of sense to me!
Mike I
Dec 25 2003, 04:33 PM
one to beam up Mr Scott.....
Seriously,
There might some sort of explanation for it. A friend who is into this says that there is a connection. They say that the more UFO sighting there are then there is more Bigfoot

sightings.
I am not sure but I keep a open mind to the "theory" you just never know....
sagehunter
Dec 25 2003, 04:45 PM
I like SFS theroy I still thinf that BF`s are nothing more than a N American great ape, an animal and nothing else
Fletch28
Dec 25 2003, 05:00 PM
I agree SFS. It also makes sense that when 2 mysterious things are happening at random like Sasquatch sitings and UFO sitings sooner or later the 2 will happen in the same area at the same time. I'd also add that when ufo sitings start in a particular area more people start looking around which MAY account for more Sasquatch sitings during that time.
manster
Dec 25 2003, 11:12 PM
I can't imagine seeing an unidentified hairy object checking out an unidentified flying object......i wonder if the aliens have been able to snap any clear photos? I don't believe in UFO's from other planets. But i do believe in alot of odd looking experimental aircraft being tested. If something very bright did come down from the sky, i would agree that any bigfoot close by might go take a look at it.....but then again it might frighten it away. Not really sure. But i've just never taken the bigfoot/ufo connection seriously. And i usually won't even look at a bigfoot report if i know a ufo is part of it.
RayG
Dec 25 2003, 11:21 PM
I presently don't take the notion of BF coming from UFOs seriously. However, if someone were to actually see a BF piloting a UFO, I would have to reconsider.
So far it ain't happened.
RayG
misfitguy
Dec 26 2003, 06:56 AM
Just curious, did the bigfoot/UFO connection come about before Chewy/Star Wars or after the release of the movie?
Judaculla
Dec 26 2003, 07:34 AM
John Green mentions several UFO/Bigfoot stories in his book Sasquatch: The Apes Among Us, and that was 1978 I believe. He wished that the stories didn't exist, for obvious reasons. But, they were there, so he catalogued them. There were a large number in Pennsylvannia for some reason.
Green also mentioned that he thought it was entirely plausible that a sasquatch would check out something odd. They've shown curiousity about other things, like campsites and tractors. So, why not spacecraft?
For the record... I know zero about UFOs. But, if someone wants to show me some dermatoglyphics and a double-ball hinge from a cast, I'll listen....
xpandafarmerx
Dec 26 2003, 08:35 AM
i think it's a good theory... BUT... why would footie be drawn to a large glowing object and yet still be shy around humans? we should look up to see how other animals react in same situation... do they act curious? do the objects have some sort of calming effect? do they run in fear?
many UFO researchers that i've read up on recently have also brought up the idea that UFO's don't travel through space per say, but interdimentionally. then the theory is drawn that purhaps footie is ALSO such a traveller, and purhaps "leaks" in through the process... now although i like the idea that UFOs can travel dimentionally... i mean the likelyhood that an intelligent being would go on such a massive roadtrip for cowparts is not very "intelligent" unless you can sorten that trip to minimal time... BUT how/why would bigfoot travel at the same time? is he a housepet of sorts? is he that planet's version of a grizzlybear? and if so why the heck would anyone let animals near thier transporters?

now i give the idea of Bigfoot being an intra-dimentional being 0% plausability... but i have read too many weird reports to say there is NO connection between the two.
P
Il Spettro
Dec 26 2003, 11:16 AM
But if you let in a little of that connection you have to let it all in. Like the wormholes and time travel and gridlines of energy around the earth and the portals that are on them. No I think if we keep the two seperate it will be an easier topic to discuss. My first thought was the Chewy/SW connection. There seems to be less evidence of UFOs as an alien thing than there is of BF. I am Southern NV and I see enough of the experimental planes ,UAVs and whatever as I drive up past Indian Springs. I am sure the latest technology is not viewable to someone like me but if it gets out hand that is when we see the crashes and fire in the sky. I do know when we had a jet crash out here near Nellis during a Red Flag ,it took like 15 minutes for a cleanup crew to be on the scene. No black helicopters or silent discs just a quick pickup and cleanup of the site. The two offroad guys on ATVs were stunned by how quick the cleanup took place. I am happy keeping it as a NA Great Ape and a bunch of lights. Too many UFOsplotches and pie tins for me to take seriously. Now if I had a UFO under my porch AND a psychic bird to help me communicate with it then I would post some fuzzy pics for you. But only if you were anti-smog for the UFO then I would know you would believe me and any books I could sell you.
Sachmo
Jan 18 2004, 04:21 AM
A plausible theory, yes. But by that logic, if I wanted to attract a bigfoot I could then just drive my RV or car out into the middle of the woods with some glued on christmas lights and attract a bigfoot? The notion seems almost completely contradictory to the known and most widely accepted behavioral patterns of bigfoot: one of recluse and timidness. Then again, these are all theories and based completely on speculation after all..Hell for all we know, UFO's could just as plausibly be the result of bigfoot taking a dump in the cold snow, causing a phosphorescent blob to rise into the air and whizz around..?? who knows.
fishead
Jan 18 2004, 06:58 AM
Time travel through "Worm-holes" may be a possibility, but to live through it is not possible; so we are left with the fact that the nearest star is 6 light years away, meaning it takes 6 years for light to go that far at light speed. Now the planet out of our soloar system is further yet. UFO's are just not a possibility.
I aggree with above said, the Bigfoot to me is an animal and thats what I saw; not a magical alien monster ghost or anything the like.
DavT

eyes wide open...
ontheloose
Jan 18 2004, 08:09 AM
well, i don't believe there is any connection to sasquatch and ufo's either, i think the squatches are just as curious about the ufo's as we are or any other animal, heck who knows, maybe the aliens abduct sasquatches too............
RayG
Jan 18 2004, 12:49 PM
QUOTE(fishead @ Jan 18 2004, 07:58 AM)
we are left with the fact that the nearest star is 6 light years away, meaning it takes 6 years for light to go that far at light speed.
Factually, the nearest star is only 0.0000158 light years away or about 8.5 minutes at the speed of light. It's called the sun.

The
next nearest star is Proxima Centauri, at a distance of 4.22 light years. After that are Alpha Centauri A and B, 4.39 light years away, and
then comes Barnard's Star at 5.94 light years.
More info
here and
here.
Entering 'distance to nearest star' in Google turns up tons of additional sites.
RayG
Gigantopithecus
Jan 18 2004, 03:46 PM
I don't want to seem too opinionated about this subject but I, personally, think that theory is a long stretch. Sachmo did an excellent job of pretty much describing what I was thinking, although off the record I don't completely think it's impossible. You cannot expect an animal to react identically to an odd occurrence, even with the same species.
For starters, no one thinks alike, especially people, and considering exactly how humanlike bigfoot's supposedly are they may as well think individually like people. A person/bigfoot terrified of the unknown would run, a curious individual probably wouldn't. Hence the theory is permanently safe, although I still don't buy it.
fishead - These 'wormholes' (for those who don't know what they are I'll try to make it as simple as possible. Blackholes suck you in, white holes, which are exactly the opposite, repel you. A wormhole is two of each interconnected, so you get sucked in one side and spit out the other. It should be noted that white holes have yet to be proven.) you speak of have yet to be discovered and I highly doubt they exist, although if you believe in the universe inherently consists of tiny vibrating strings of energy (string theory) anything seems possible, including extra dimensions. And actually it may be within your ability to survive the journey through a wormhole, it's already been proven you could travel a very large blackhole with minimal damage to your spacecraft, but thats another topic altogether. So this theory is also permanently safe for the time being.
Your conclusion that UFO's cannot exist due to your over-simplified equation is probably your lack of knowledge in the subject matter speaking, no offense. Traveling through space would in fact be a very long journey if you travel close to, or at the speed of light. You'd need to go much, much faster in hopes of ever getting anywhere significant.
Ever heard of warping space? Sorta like the 'warpdrive' in Star Trek if your into that sort of thing. Large and heavy objects warp space all the time, it's possible, and its known as gravity. Since the fabric of space can in fact be manipulated it would not be hard to believe that an alien civilization with quite a bit of technological advancements could construct a 'warpdrive'. Basically this works by distorting the space in front of you, like shrinking or literally compressing it. Then you'd stretch the space behind you and instantly you've traveled an incredibly long distance. That's what enables the Federation to meet thousands of alien species in the multiple Star Trek series. You don't require an immense imagination to think of all the possibilities.
As far as the existence of aliens goes...well, I'll stay out of that. I'm sure you've all seen the math, evidence, and so fourth the suggests, even demands that a species exists from another world. Frankly, if I were a person of potential influence and power in the world (and many people are glad that I am not) then I'd might as well announce aliens are real. But I respect the fact that some people will never choose to believe in what thousands of scientists acknowledge is very real.
- Giga
sasqautch402
Feb 22 2004, 07:43 AM

all good thoeries,However can we prove one before we start making connections.
nightwing
Feb 22 2004, 07:00 PM
And let us not forget that due to time dialation, if we could get close to the speed of light, the time passage for those on board the shipe would be managable.
For those left home, it would seem a very long time..but for those on the ship, maybe as little as a few weeks or months.
that being said, I don't see a connection between the two subjects beyond a common interest in some.
tarran
Feb 23 2004, 02:30 PM
QUOTE(manster @ Dec 25 2003, 11:12 PM)
I can't imagine seeing an unidentified hairy object checking out an unidentified flying object......i wonder if the aliens have been able to snap any clear photos? I don't believe in UFO's from other planets. But i do believe in alot of odd looking experimental aircraft being tested. If something very bright did come down from the sky, i would agree that any bigfoot close by might go take a look at it.....but then again it might frighten it away. Not really sure. But i've just never taken the bigfoot/ufo connection seriously. And i usually won't even look at a bigfoot report if i know a ufo is part of it.
GOOD POINT!! I feel the same way about this!!
The QuatchWatcher
Feb 23 2004, 02:45 PM
From COAST TO COAST (2.23.04):
Welby
Feb 23 2004, 03:59 PM
Wow, Quatch, that illustration reminds me of a particular political party's struggle to regain the White House. And look, it's evidently a female...does that mean Hillary's gonna run?
Welby
Feb 23 2004, 04:07 PM
The QuatchWatcher
Feb 23 2004, 04:13 PM
Damn good job Welby. Damn good.
We Will See,
Quatch
nightwing
Feb 23 2004, 07:06 PM
I think there is a good chance that sasquatch exists.
I know that UFO's in the classic sense exist.
I don't see any inkling of a connection between the two.
cochise
Feb 23 2004, 10:30 PM
QUOTE(SFS @ Dec 25 2003, 03:38 PM)
Now, Joe Camper sees this UFO land and he also goes to check it out, when he gets there he sees the UFO sitting in a clearing, but he also spots Sasquatch walking around outside the UFO. Joe Camper turns tail and gets the hell out of there, but on the way home he starts thinking about what happened.
Dang, this Joe Camper is one lucky guy!
cochise
Feb 23 2004, 10:46 PM
QUOTE(misfitguy @ Dec 26 2003, 06:56 AM)
Just curious, did the bigfoot/UFO connection come about before Chewy/Star Wars or after the release of the movie?

A bit earlier than that -- say about 5,000 years ago. Ancient Sumerians had a whole belief system, recorded for posterity in cunniform tablets, that pretty much distills down to the fact (their fact) that beings from outer space landed on this planet long before homo sapiens was around -- and that they eventually created not only Sasquatch but, later -- us.
Weird and absolutely fascinating stuff. Read Llyod Pyle's "Everything You Know Is Wrong" and I promise you won't be able to put it down. He borrows from the extensive research of a Russian anthropologist and puts it all together in very compelling form.
No, I don't subscribe to this far out theory, but I'm very glad I read the book.
So the answer to your question, misfitguy, is "yes".
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