I just found this over at Graybeard Outdoors ( if you do not go there it is a great forum as well)
It is not a 1st hand story but interesting anyway.
If you do not know Graybeard himself is a none believer but has a open mind about the subject. He even hosted a Bigfoot related forum. I have spoken to him on the phone and we talked for about a hour on the subject a few years ago.

This is not my story.
This was originally posted by 'Mike Minihan' over on the Falfiles.com in October 2006.
Posted here without further comment, for your collective input -

Back in the winter of 2001 my youngest son and I were on our way from Boise, Idaho to Medford, Oregon. We had taken a car trailer to his old place in Boise in order to haul his non-running Jeep to his new place in Medford. We hit an area of heavy snow in the southern Cascades around 2:00 a.m. It took 45 minutes or so to get down the mountain. We had, of course been drinking coffee to stay alert.

About 25 miles west of the pass it became obvious that the last few quarts of coffee had to be drained. We stopped at a wide spot in the road near a summer tourist haunt, deserted in winter. There is a gas station and ice cream joint on the west side of the road, closed this time of year, and no town or settlement within 30 miles. This is tall timber country, and unsettled. Across the road is a small parking area for the ice cream joint. It is paved and about 200 ft. wide and 80 ft. deep. I pulled in and as I stepped out with .45 on hip, it occurred to me in a flash that grabbing the 590 Mossy would be good.

As we walked to the far end of the area to be well off the road, the hair on my arms and the back of my neck stood on end. The area directly to our front was open with a depth of 50 yards and a width of 100 yards. The night was clear and cold, 8-10 inches of snow on the ground, and with a moon almost full, so we could see quite well. While standing and taking a leak, with son about 15 ft. to my right I saw, as if springing from the earth in front of us across the open area 10 or 12 creatures moving RAPIDLY back and forth in sort of a Thatch weave pattern. These things, not human men, were close to 7 ft. tall, thin, bipedal with long arms, medium length gray fur, and damned fast on their feet. I brought the shotgun up and slid the safety off, as son was drawing his .45.

I don’t know if I can adequately explain the overwhelming feeling of menace, but here goes. I had been operating on pure instinct since I had stepped from the pickup, the rotten feeling hit me a split second before the things arrived, the feeling?, instinct?, was that we were prey, and subject to a very bad death, and to be slaughtered and eaten, not a logical process, gut feeling and massively overwhelming.

As they were moving about in front of us, more appeared and mixed among them, all the while running about fast in front of us. Son and I were backing toward the truck, I WOULD NOT present my back to them, and some of them peeled off right and left in an encirclement movement. They were rolling in fast from the sides now, I could smell and feel their presence. We got to the truck loaded on adrenaline and ready to kill, as we both knew we were in grave danger. We piled into the truck, locked doors. I had keys out and ready, as my butt neared the seat, I had the engine lit and trans. in gear and gas pedal mashed in one motion. Adrenaline is great stuff! As we fled, yes fled, something VERY close by let out a ululating scream of rage, and pain. I believe one or more of the group had gotten really close to us in their pursuit and I ran over the foot of one of them, yeah they were that close. We rolled onto the highway and I told son to watch the bed of the pickup as well as the trailer, he already was indexed to the rear with the shotgun.

We hauled ass for at least 20 miles before the feeling of grave danger started to abate. The feeling that nailed both of us, as we discussed soon afterward, was one of being prey, and soon to be slaughtered and eaten. I am not easily led, and neither believe or disbelieve all the bigfoot, ghost and werewolf stuff, in fact I am skeptical. Son was speaking with a coworker about 6 months later who had grown up in Prospect, Oregon, about 30 miles south of Union Creek where the incident took place. He asked Jake if he had ever heard of any strange goings-on in the area. Jake went ashy white and pretty much retold the above tale. He says to avoid the place at night.

A family friend, a 25 yr. retired cop not given to flights of fancy and an excellent observer, had a tale very similar from a year before. I told my wife of this event of course, she looked at me at the beginning as though I had developed a 3rd eyeball in the center of my forehead. That was from shock, she did believe me, but did not wish to hear any details. She said the tale gave her chills. Me too, as I write this, hair on back of neck and forearms is sticking up. I have NOT gone back to explore, and would not without a large group of shotgun and flamethrower equipped men with me.

Son and I are both sane, sober persons, and not taken to hysteria. We were wide, VERY wide awake as things transpired. We saw and smelled what was there. As a sidebar neither of us heard footfalls from the creatures. They were silent until i hurt one as we were getting the Hell out of there.

To my knowledge, and I have researched, there is nothing that matches these creatures, unless one considers old legends and folk tales of “Were” creatures. To conclude, I have to fall back on Elmer Keiths famous line, “Hell, I was there.”

2nd time I've heard that description. There was another story from an old trapper(dont recall) that was the same. He had reached a mountain top and watched as the group of hairy men approached him as if hunting him.

no doubt I'll sit in my deer stand next week and remember this story.

LOL sorry about that. Might have a nightmare about it myself.

Oh I think I remember that story... I'll see if I can track it down. I think it was on the same site as the Ostman story.

I don't believe a single word of that pure BS story. It's no wonder the sasquatch subject is'nt taken seriously with crap like that being spread.

Please, it's OK not to believe the story but let's don't turn this thread into yet another fight.

Thanks


Edit to say, I'm very skeptical of the story too, but it would make a great campfire story to scare the kiddies with.

10-12 or more Bigfeet in one sighting. If this location is a summer tourist haunt for people it would make sense that being unoccupied in the winter would make it prime BF habitat. It's a god story but I am thinking probably just that a good story. I am curious why do some people feel the need to go into detail about what specific fire arm they were carrying.

It appears the incident took place at Union Creek??? If so, he's described it pretty good, it does have an ice cream spot and everything would be closed at that time of night. There is a turn out too, just away from the ice cream place where people stop and sled a nice long hill during the day. It's a crappy road (well maintained, but curvy and in the winter it's ICY.

I live very near there and it's one of the places I camp during the winter when I want to get away from everyone and camp remotely in the snow. It's not totally deserted because there are cabins and snowmobiling during the winter, but at night there would be nothing going on, absolutely nothing.

Is the game up there scarce by late Feb/March dya think?

Be interesting to find out what kind of winter it was. Also interesting to note that the tales of manhunting seem to be from mostly mountain areas and seem to be winter related also. You only go after the dangerous game when the easy stuff is gone.

If this ever happens to anyone and you've got no vehicle, no sturdy cabin etc to bolt into, then charge the line! Seriously, from my knowledge of primitive hunting behaviour, the line of flushers is usually the weakest tribe members, they're there to drive you into the ambush of the others who are stronger and better armed. Also it makes sense from a military point of view, you either survive an ambush from pure aggression or pure luck, charge the line, yelling your head off.

Not saying I believe the story is true. However I find it very interesting that someone can confirm what is at the location.
Has anyone heard of any other sightings at this location ? If other sightings happened at the same location at about the same time of year and such it might be a good place to investigate.

OK Ace, time to take one for the team!

Seriously, have you heard any other stories from the area? I can't imagine there not being more sightings if there are that many creatures around.

Edit, sorry michan, I didn't see that you had asked the same question before I posted this.

Great story! Any missing persons in that area? If not, well, as I said, great story.

My opinion of the stories validity was not meant to directed towards any members on this board....it was just my opinion.

As a story it has a lot in common with the ape canyon and miners camp stories. I'm inclined to think it is on the spectrum of behaviour possible for a smart primate or hominid in severe conditions. The stories of the Windigo are from Northern areas when a form of starvation and malnutrition would bring on windigo psychosis in the Inuit and Cree in those areas. We might expect the "locals" to be suffering similar hardships at the same time, and thus also prone to the same forms of malnutrition and the same kinds of desperate actions resulting from it. This behaviour would be rare, and would depend on the severity of the winter and conditions that preceded it. Noteworthy is that the creatures were described as thin looking, a feature noted in other stories of aggressive bigfoot in winter.

As explanatory to my last post the inland Inuit would hunt by sending the able bodied women, elderly and juveniles to flush and drive the game while the men would close the trap with spears and bows. The creatures were described as about 7ft, that is on the lower side of estimates for well developed males, so it could be hypothesised that the brick outhouse build 9 footers were in cover somewhere behind the observers holding half a tree trunk each.

Anyway, to me there are details there that the author would have to think hard about and research in order to concoct a likely tale, winter, thiness, to explain aggression, driving line of "up to 7ft" creatures, (Why not exaggerate, say they were 10 footers?) so despite it's lack of surface credulity, to me it seems to make sense.

Yes, there are a number of stories near there. Here is the BFRO link for Jackson County:

http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_county_report...;county=Jackson

I started listing them all, from the BFRO but decided people can look for themselves. You'd want to try Jackson, Klamath and Douglas counties. Union Creek is near the turn off for Crater Lake National Park, it's sort of situated at the north end of Jackson and northwest Klamath county, and just east of Douglas County. There have been at least a handful, half dozen or so, sightings near there over the years.

Union Creek is the smallest of towns if it's even incorporated (I don't know if it is, but it seems like there is a post office there if I remember). It's several buildings on Hwy 62, just a small restaurant, ice cream shop, general store and cabins you can rent. There are several campgrounds in the area. It's on the Rogue River. In the winter time the road SUCKS. It is a dangerous roadway at times during the winter, closes at least part of the time for a day or three and very wooded. It's near where I like to hunt and camp, has deer and elk in the area as well as small game. I'm actually considering a short "expedition" just east of this reported sighting. It's kind of a toss up between there and another location near the Calif/Oregon border. So, I may be out that way in the next few weeks, or not

As far as whether there are missing persons in the area...we have an excellent SAR team in Jackson County. There have been people in past and in adjoining counties that have not been found.

edited for spelling

My thoughts:

1) Check the weather records for that year in the area to verify the date via snowfall and moon phase.

2) Why did he get out an immediately think that carrying a shotgun was a good idea when he had to go relieve himself (did it have a sling)?

3) Why were they running a weave pattern? Seems like they would have been more a line abreast formation. (By the way, a "Thatch" weave is used by fighter pilots to prevent opposing fighters from locking on to them and for protection. Pioneered by Navy pilot Jimmy Thatch in WW II.)

4) Why did he get the feeling they were going to be prey? (Kind of makes sense if there was a lack of food in the area at the time due to the snow and conditions, and given that there were an estimated 16-18 at least. Must be hard to find sufficient food supplies for that number of large animals).

5) Why did they not just mount a full speed frontal assault? Seems like they were 50 yards or less at their most distant and could cover that ground in a matter of a very few seconds.

6) Why did they not fire off a warning round or two to see if that dispersed the group?

7) How does one smell their presence? (Perhaps some of you hunters can explain this. Did he mean actually smell their scent?)

8) I am confused about the truck reentry sequence. He had the shotgun, but piled into the truck, got it started, and his son ends up with the shotgun. Maybe he threw it in ahead of jumping in, but the whole sequence seems a little off to me. Cannot put my finger on it though...

9) Why did it take 20 miles to relieve the feeling of being prey? In other cases, it seems these types of feelings evaporate as soon as the creature leaves.

10) He never really describes the physical features of the creatures in much detail other than height and color. Could they have been dogmen? He mentions the werewolf theory. He did say they were thin, which does not square with most accounts of BF or were they on the verge of starvation? It they were, could that contribute to the feeling of being eaten?



All that said, it is quite an interesting story! I do not discount it, but the above did jump out at me when I read the story. At this point, this falls into unverified category. I wish we could compare the other witness's stories with this one. Just because it makes a great campfire tale, does not mean it did not happen though. It would be interesting to do some research in the area this winter. I would advise to do it as a group and be heavily armed though...

2001 Moon Phases – Full Moon
Jan 9
Feb 7

He states almost full, so give a week to include before and after. I tried to find the weather in detail for that time frame, but couldn’t. I can tell you there is snow on the pass right now though, at Diamond Lake. Crater Lake, near there, averages 533” of snow per year. I’ll say this about the weather. If it was winter, unless it was an unusual one, there was likely snow on the ground or ice on the road in Jan/Feb. Union Creek doesn’t have snow today, but the pass down to Union Creek, at Diamond Lake has snow on the side of the road as of today.

I personally think the story sounds very sensational; however, the description of the area, and likely the weather, is accurate. That’s not to say what was reported was factual, as anyone that’s driven Hwy 62 to Crater Lake would have driven right by there and could make up a story with a few details. There’s a history of sightings near there, but again, that could be why a person would choose that area for a good story.

VAFooter, I'll also add this to address at least a couple of your questions. I was exploring, not anything in particular, just out in the woods checking things out in a general sense and pulled over near a creek. I got out, started down a trail and felt very uncomfortable so I turned around and got my shotgun out of the truck. There was no real reason for it, but I just felt better with it. I walked back down the trail to the water, looked around a bit and still felt very uncomfortable. I walked back to my truck and bam right there was a perfect print near my truck, longer and wider than my foot but perfect in the soft silt like dirt (only one print). I got into my truck and started to drive out of the little area near the creek and something in the brush made more noise than I'd ever heard in the bush, like a bear or elk smashing every piece of wood as it ran. I never saw it, but it scared the hell out of me even with my shotgun. Why did I have the sense of dread or whatever that made me go back and get my shotgun, I don't know. As I drove out of there I felt like whatever was in the brush could have pulled me out of that moving truck and whomped my *ss. I had a feeling of dread for miles as I drove away, looking in the rearview mirror. Sounds pretty lame now, but for whatever reason that was real scared, not like seeing a scary movie or some cheesy thing like that. Dread that didn't immediately go away and completely illogical. That night, and several others, I've laid awake at night feeling dread, like whatever made that print and made that noise could pull me through the window of my house (miles away from where it occurred). It makes NO sense whatsoever, none, and it's completely outside of my personality. Also, there is at least one place I've been and found prints that I can hardly make myself go alone and I won't go without being armed. I camp alone in the middle of nowhere. I go out in the woods alone routinely but whatever made that noise and made the print put the fear in me. It's weird though because I either have the fear or it's so far out of my mind I'm as home in the woods as in my own home. My wife even teases me about it because she thinks I have one feeling and no fear (or not enough sense to know when I should be fearful), but when I tell her I can't go to a certain place in the woods she thinks I'm joking. Boy, that was more than I was going to write.

So, the description of the area seems right, the weather is probably right and I've had the same weird feelings that seem to be conveyed.

Ace, thanks for the comments and sharing your story with us!!! Maybe it was just the way he stated it: that it occurred to him to get the shotgun, not "I was overcome by uneasiness, fear, dread, etc. and decided to bring the 590 Mossy along with me."


Just curious, is the area where the creatures were weaving visible from the road or would one have to pull over in order to see it to the extent that the witness described it?


Below are Google Earth images of the area. Is this the right place?




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For us ghouls ..
http://www.craterlakeinstitute.com/cultura...gy/b-deaths.htm

I count 3 people missing (not counting planes) and never found and one case of a missing person whose remains turn up widely scattered in an area they didn't think he could get in to, after a search prompted by finding his tattered and torn backpack.

Missing people in:

1910 (2)
1911
1935 (saw fall, body not recovered)
1939
1975 (backpack incident)
1991


Lots of people have died there, be careful if you go...

Sounds to me like an active imagination following on from thsi Sighting on teh BFRO in which it doesn't state in teh Report, but they too were travelling from Idaho..

http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=3624

Possibly with a little bit of the below chicked in for good measure, or parts of it were taken & altered with that same active imagination, from a few Miles down the Road ??

http://www.oregonbigfoot.com/report_detail.php?id=00712

Wow Ace, that gave me goosey bumps while reading it. I've only had "that" feeling once in my life and it made no sense at all to me. I never found out why I had the severe fright at that particular site, but I haven't gone back to the spot alone either.

For the Crater Lake '91 missing person incident, it appears that the area had been short of rainfall for that summer and the 5 years previous, (it had about 20 inches where about 40 was normal IIRC, in steep country it runs off quick) and was approaching drought conditions. We might speculate then that the game at that time was scarce and skinny.

That site only covers up to '97 by the look of it, and only inside the actual boundaries of crater lake national park.

I was searching specifically for incidences of abandoned vehicles found with persons missing at that point. Can't seem to dig anything up. However, looks like that area is a popular suicide spot, so you kind of wonder if there are "slipped through the cracks" missing persons in that area where it was just presumed they topped themselves. i.e. less press and public interest in finding them.

Also wonder if there's anything about that gas station or ice cream stand or vacation cabins in the area being trashed like the cabin on Shelborn lake (sp?)

Google was frustrating me though, I swear it had a news search thing where you could search back decades, saw that when looking for recent news the other day, but for some reason I couldn't get the option to show up when I was digging for these.

Sassy or not those stories of hikers that vanish totally creep me out considering how much time I spend doing the same thing

Micahn, any chance that you could get Mike Minihan to come on this thread and answer questions?

gah meant Snelgrove Lake

In May 08' , I took my family on a roadtrip through the PNW which included a stop a Crater Lake Nat. Park. The area is densely forested with conifer trees with a couple of pockets of civilization. The Rogue river runs parallel with the Hwy. The area is prefect habit for BF in my opinion, there's plenty of room to hide. At this time there was no snow in Union Creek but east at Crater Lake there still 10 ft. of snow.

I wonder if there were only a few Sasquatches closing in but moon shadows and swaying trees may have attributed to the 10+ number. Maybe he pulled up to take a wizz right in the middle of the BF winter retreat. I also wonder if maybe like a lot of animals that these things migrate to a breeding ground, just trying to figure out my a majority of sightings are of solitary creatures but this guy hit onto a dozen of them at once and what the heck would that many be doing up there in pretty unforgiving conditions when they could be down in the Rouge Valley where the snow is much less severe.

If they were in the Rogue Valley they'd be seen. There's always people out and about in the valley. My thought, if the story is true, the animals were coming down into the lower elevations and possibly moving west into Douglas county and toward the Grants Pass area and even more westward into the coastal range.

edited to add, by Rogue Valley I mean the valley floor area, not in the general area.

I read somewhere that First Nations people had told white trappers in the 1800's that BF creatures would gather together in mass meetings in there past history. I can't remember the source because I've read to many reports over the years.

Yikes...true or not, that is an eerie story. I have been camping at Union Creek many times with my family. My dad used to fish there when the hatchery let the fish out, so we were there every year from the time I was about five until sixteen years old. I rode my bike through every inch of that area when I was a kid, climbed all over the rocks on the river, listened to all the stories about the natural bridge...even got lost on a hike. It is a fairly remote area but lots of activity during summer. In fact, my parents just stayed in one of the cabins about two weeks ago because they had hiked to where the Rogue River starts out of the ground. My mom told me, after they got home, that my dad was very nervous because a friend of his had seen a bf just down the road from where they were hiking, at the beginning of this year. I guess my dad was looking all around as they walked and kept saying that maybe they shouldn't go too far off the pathway because he didn't want to run into whatever his friend had seen.
Personally, I have never felt or seen anything strange in the area other than one time when I was walking along a trail that runs above the river. It was just a feeling of needing to leave the area...which I did. This happened just a couple of years ago when I had stopped to stretch my legs after being out for a long drive. It was not an overly scary feeling, just felt like an adrenalin rush and I had a sense that I needed to go back to the car quickly. Really didn't think anything of it since I was alone and in the woods. Figured it was just me being a scaredy cat.
Just a side note that has always made me wonder...I think it was at Crater Lake??? a few years ago a boy was lost who had autism. As far as I know he was never found. The incident sounded odd, to me, in the way that it supposedly happened, and the fact that I haven't been able to find very much information about it online.

Hi grantspassnative, welcome to the BFF!

Do any of you that have been to this area have pictures that you might share? Thanks

I'm sure my parents have tons of pics of the area...my mom takes pictures of everything...I'll have to check and see if they have any worth posting.

Sorry I do not know the person.
As I posted I found the story posted at Graybeards forums and even then it was being posted there from another forums.
Here is where I got it
http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/index.php/topic,188089.0.html

Yeah, it was at Crater Lake. It was a weird story, and no, he was never found. That boy was a significant reason why I joined search and rescue (SAR).

I went over to Falfiles.com and found the original post:

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread....ghlight=bigfoot

about 4/5 of the way down.


If anybody is registered with Falfiles, you can contact him via the board.

Here is a link to Union Creek and shows the store and ice cream place...
http://www.unioncreekoregon.com/

http://www.unioncreekoregon.com/icecream_shop.htm

Here I imagine...or not far from there, down the road a bit for privacy for pp

That's it alright. It's dead at night, in the winter, except maybe in a couple of the cabins. It's a beautiful place, any time of year. I camp there in the winter (too crowded during the tourist months), take the kids sledding there (very steep hill). There's a winter place there (they have a special name for winter snow areas or some such thing) where you can pull off the road and park. It's plowed in the winter to allow access to the sledding area. It's just north (and I mean just north) of Beckie's, the general store and ice cream place. If you're ever that way, Beckie's does a pretty good breakfast (the pancakes are almost as good as mine ). Just south of there is another turn out and some public restrooms. It's actually the Union Creek campground area, but the campground is closed in the winter due to snow. You can access the area to unload snow mobiles and use the public toilets (which I don't think were there back in 2001). If you're sneaky, you can park in that area and carry in your gear into the campground (which is covered in snow and even the picnic tables are under snow). The snow gets deep in there. You'll need snow mobiles to get to some of the privately owned cabins. During the day there can be some activity due to the highway (Hwy 62) that goes up to Crater Lake and over to Bend. But again, at 2:00AM there would be nothing going on.

On my personal to do list is NOT camp at Mill Creek Campground in the winter....Ever

I never thought about being eaten when I had my little scare there......but it was summer. That was bad enough......

I don't know if the report is "real" or not, but I personally felt a very similar kind of fear not too far from there....I ate pancakes at the "resort" the next day........but it was summer....I had a male human and lots of noisy, shiny things with me....

K. Winters are hard and food is scarce...the hind brain takes over sometimes and extrapolates. From what he said I think he probably saw as many as three...if he saw any at all...

not saying he's right, just saying....

Interesting!! Care to elaborate?

I haven't read all the responses, but will chime in that I read this story on a very high volume gun site a year or so ago if that. There was a lengthy topic about creepy stories and happenings and it was posted amongst a lot of other stories, without any specific topic. A few other people commented about it and someone else had known of that exact place and thought something was odd about it during the winter to and knew some stories.
Anyhow, most of the folks there are gun fanatics so that's the reason for the firearm comments being specific.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&...2310&page=1

That is a creepy story. Don't know the area at all, but it somehow strikes me as authentic, even though the high number of BF's make it weird. Maybe BECAUSE the high number of BF's make it weird. It's pretty different than the standard "I saw a large hairy bipedal creature" story, which if you were making up story to be believe, why try to be so sensational?

Regarding the sense of dread, I have spent most of my life hunting and in my younger days, camping in the woods. One of my current pastimes is wild boar hunting, which involves being in the woods at night, 90% of the time you are hunting. Out of all those hours upon hours spent in the woods at night, exactly ONE time, I got such a feeling of dread and overwhelming fear, that all the hair stood up on my arms and the back of my neck, my mouth went so dry it was all I could do, to swallow. The woods went quiet and I felt such a strong feeling of dread, that I left a campsite with all my gear in it, said the hell with it, and got the hell out of there. Came back the next day in daytime, and the tent was knocked down, and stuff moved around. Never saw anything. Have no idea what it was. Just that overwhelming, almost irrational feeling of fear. Never experienced anything like that since then and I am in the woods at night all the time.

Man that sounds fun! I love VA, but sometimes I wished I lived where you do. Camping in the snow is FUN!

That is CREEPY!!! I've heard many people talk of this sense of dread, mainly members here who thought they were possibly in the presence of a B/F. I believe Mike2k had an experience similar to yours a couple yrs ago (I don't think he'd mind me mentioning his name). Obviously these feelings seem irrational sometimes, but I believe they are completely rational. I truly believe we have mental abilities that we don't know much about and don't often use. This 'early warning system' is one of them in my view. I've heard too many talk of it to not be something to it.

These are all good questions. Although there are rational explanations for most of them (as Ace suggested), they still make you wonder, hmmm? The part about stepping out of the truck (both of them) armed to the teeth was the 1st one that popped out to me. I understand having that sense of dread (as Ace said) and then grabbing firearms, but in this case they did it beforehand. I'm not sure why you would do that in the middle of nowhere just to pee?

And of course the story itself sounds highly sensationalized, hard to believe. But, you just never know. I've heard stranger, LOL.



Thanks. . .That is awesome!! Beautiful, gorgeous land. Sorta reminds me of The Peaks Of Otter here in VA. . .Anyways, if I ever have any money again, I'd love to visit.

It's a long way to go to camp in the snow, but I'll make a pot of coffee if you wanna come out to Oregon.

I was out in the woods yesterday, stomping around in the snow looking for squirrels and grouse, and never even thought about being alone out in the woods.

What a total BS story. I always pack firearms when I pull over to piss.

Whether true or not, I have to admit I really like the image of a squadron of BF weaving and interweaving back and forth in kind of an artistically arranged manoeuver pattern. Reading that part of the story a couple of times over, I more or less likened it to the Musical Ride put on by the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) which I have see performed a couple of times. If you slow it down to almost slow motion you get a sort of ballet effect. Just imagine, BF leaping and capering about in their little tutus. Nyuk-nyuk! (Hey, it's late Sunday afternoon and things are a bit slow, okay?)
Dudlow