Hi folks,

So I seem to be collecting a small junkpile of old digicams that I tell myself I'll get round to making gamecams with one day. I got to thinking that these old things are practically disposeable.... practically... why not piss off something big and scary and drop them behind you as you run... and hope you might find them later...

This is in consideration of the impression I've gathered from a few dimly remembered reports, in that sometimes when "they" are regarded as being more aggressive (or is that maybe more defensive?) in an area, they will run you out, but not actually really try to catch up with you. With them continuing the "You know we're here, but just try proving it" routine by staying well in cover...

I started off thinking that maybe you could try and get chased along a chain of cams, but they'll probably see you placing them, maybe hassle you from cover then too if you've picked your area right. But then I'm thinking that most of these point and hope cams have something of a standard 2 or 10 second shutter timer.... or video modes, but with only 30 seconds or so clip capacity.

If you dropped 'em on a 2 second timer, or on the vid mode, and they landed right, as you were running might there be a chance of catching out a pursuer who hasn't had time to evaluate and shy off? If you were just gonna walk real fast I guess you'd use the 10 sec.

So, to help them "land right" I'd be thinking of some kind of topple right side up weighted flat base, that I could make a few of and mount the cams to. Then to help them deploy in the heat of the moment, and hopefully to help retrieve them maybe get them strung at intervals on a thin strongish rope, stake the end of that down when you think you've penetrated as far as "they" will let you, call 'em names a bit, shout "neener neener" and when the rocks start hitting, turn and make a break for it... in a perfect world, the cams would pull out of your backpack, triggering for 2 sec or into short clip video mode, at whatever intervals you figure is appropriate.... and you sprint for "safety" which hopefully is a neutral area where you've got a big group of buddies, or is your vehicle or something.... give it a minute, then get everyone to play tug of war to drag out the cam line, or tie it off to your vehicle and drive out a safe distance...


Yup, kinda harebrained, depends on the right territory with the right boogers on the right day, but figured it might make for a fun Sunday afternoon of tormenting the locals, and much entertainment in cleaning mud out of USB ports to download potential blobsquatches after...


Flash.

I think if you were lucky enough to find a BF and were able to deploy this technique 100 times, you would get zero pictures. Maybe 1 blob of a knee or something that people would say is a tree stump. Then you would fall in a crevice and only the people that would know about it are the people that subscribe to the The Longview Washington Times.

I like the way you think, Flash.

True.

It's original and I didn't mean you shouldn't try it Flashman. But luck will really need to be on your side.

Yeah, but thinking out of the box (boy, there's an expression that's getting old) is what's needed at this point. Come up with new ideas, test them out, tweak them a little bit, think of more new ideas... that's what'll keep things exciting instead of old and boring, for the people in the woods!

Yup, would be tricky to get things timed right for sure, would probably need a few dry runs with a BF stand-in chasing you "just out of sight" to see what spacing or timing you need to get anything in the frame at all... presuming you can get them to fall flat and pull straight half the time or better.

A knee might be good, or a good close ankle and foot... those parts shouldn't look much like a bear....

Hmmm that might be crazy idea #838, aim low, very low, with a good game cam, from inside the bottom of a tree hollow, or way back under a ledge... so you have to get right down on your belly to see it, and set it up for feet shots, real close, detailed, feet and ankle shots... bait above it. IMO a very detailed foot shot would go a long way...

Let me thinking about this just a min,
Ok go into the woods and make a wild animal that is big enough and strong enough to ripe my limbs off one at a time mad at me so it will run after me while I drop things (not including my bowls)
Then if I am lucky and it does not catch me and eat me I go back to where I lost it and look all around the woods looking for the stuff I dropped. No way it could remember me and be waiting to finish the job.

I do not know about anyone else but sounds like a fun time.

Wow some bad typing there.

Well I know that nothing about these things is known with a capital K, but several witnesses (or story tellers if you like) have reflected afterward that "If it wanted to, it could have caught me." leading to a presumption that it/they are playing intimidation games.


Well hopefully you can have 'em strung on a line and haul them out very shortly afterward... placing and retrieving equipment appears to be problematic in areas beleived to be "inhabited" rather than areas you hope they might pass through.,,, in that either the placing of such is observed, or manmade devices, any twig out of place, is regarded with intense suspicion, then it is either completely avoided or destroyed. So getting it later might either not be an option, or be pointless.



Stacy is right, we need more out of the box stuff. One could compare them to a highly drilled squad of behind the lines commandos skilled at guerrilla warfare. They are very "turned on". When you go into their habitation areas, they are almost completely in control of the situation, they've been handling this crap for hundreds of years, stupid, noisy, nosy, hairless, paleface critters blundering about... they may have learned or instinctive co-operative responses to dozens of situations, and when in doubt they retreat and evade. Therefore we need to catch them on the hop, present them with new rapidly evolving situations, throw curveballs, run operations where they think they are in control still, but then have a surprise up your sleeve.... and the annoying thing is, you probably don't get to feel them out to develop ideas, yup, they see what you're doing there... they're learning as fast as you are... so when you think you know enough to pull it off... stalemate again. So, need ways to get them excited and "engaged" as far as committing to one of the "textbook maneuvers" but without presenting enough of an apparent "threat" to make them switch tactics halfway through, or back off, you need them to think everything is going to plan still, keep up the pace of the situation, then pull something completely different.

So, that means it's probably best not to try things out bit by bit, but go for the full size harebrained scheme right off the bat, as best as you can deploy it, developed in a "sterile" environment, meaning try to brain out as much as possible, and do any testing well away from confirmed, likely, or even rumored "habitat".... otherwise it's like contracting your secret stealth fighter aircraft prototype windtunnel testing to a Russian facility or something.


Flash

verry interesting indeed

Dress yourself up in a female bf costume, spray some pheremones (sp?) on your as* and run down the line. You may get footage of a male breeding as well!!!

t.

Ah, maybe I should point out that I meant "turned on" in a situational awareness sense

I've had a similar idea of taking one of those little sport video head cam recorders and slipping it inside a hollowed out log. Take a hike on a trail, and when you hear the wood knocks, start the cam and place it so it is aimed back up the trail in the direction you came from. These cams will record about an hour to an SD card, so hike on for thirty minutes then come back to pick up the cam log.

SY.

A new idea, kinda like finding a needle in a haystack then getting a picture of it, but I like the idea and it will evolve into new methods and ideas on how to get good footage. How about setting up a network of police scanners and when something odd and hairy is reported (and no not uncle charles) you hack into the top secret Govt. spy satellite network and zoom into that area. Or we all pitch in and buy a Preadator drone and patrol hot spots 24/7 then get DNA with a Hellfire missle.

My recipe for getting "the shot":

One Bushnell game cam set to vid.
One Large page shiny reflective Hello Kitty stickers.
Apply stickers to game cam Everywhere. (Like "hey, what is that shiny thing. I like shiny things. Ima go check it out"....Gotcha!)
Set up camera at the back of the tent that faces the woods. Pick a spot with a handy game trail incoming, if possible.
Sandtrap the choke points into the campsite.
Make fire, have fun, play music loudly.....Laugh a lot.
"Accidentally" leave one biscuit on the table before bed.

Optional voice activated digi recorder taped under the picnic table adds a nice bit of spice to the recipe.

Additional cameras (planned future expansions) aimed towards "hammock trip traps" are sure to be a winner in America's funniest home videos. These can also be used to more clearly define the choke points.

Repeat as necessary.

Ya'll are gonna just die if this works.

So your plan starts with finding a Bigfoot, and getting it to chase you.

Kinda reminds me of "How to make a million dollars" plans that start with "Find three million dollars..."

Well, there are actually some pretty remote areas that have cell service (depending on the mountains, etc). I know of such a place. Find such a place with cell service or get a satellite phone (you can rent them).

1. Proceed to find a sasquatch to chase you out of the woods.
2. After a brief chase, stop, turn around and take a picture of said sasquatch.
3. Quickly text or email picture to a trusted friend.
4. Take your beating like a man.

Pretty simple actually.

Heh, fair point...

Plan is really "finding those threatening noises in the woods that never seem to expose themselves to plain view." which seem to be more common than card carrying "International Brotherhood of Verified Sasquatch" members who are willing to pose.

Then a presumption that the "noisemaker" may maintain 200ft from observer to maintain intimidation, depending how dense the "green fog" is locally, and try to trick the noisemaker into following you as you retreat, so it walks right into phototraps it is not expecting, you having only just set them.

So I'd figure this is more like "How to make a million dollars, i) Find $100,000 and put it on the right horse...."