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primal_scream
It seems there are even those on ESPN who are believers, not a bad read. Has anyone ever heard the tape of the vocalizeation mentioned?

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/general...ol_swan_bigfoot
QUOTE
Bigfoot lives?
Sasquatch seems like a big joke … until you find some footprints


By James A. Swan, Ph.D. - Author of "In Defense of Hunting"

When I moved to the West Coast from the Midwest 35 years ago, one part of the local culture that jumped out at me was the number of references to bigfoot or Sasquatch.

There were bars, restaurants, books, candy, dolls, wooden statues, "museums" and, perhaps best of all, the Sierra Nevada Brewing company's Bigfoot Barleywine Style Ale.

Personally, I thought bigfoot was a joke, like the Side Hill Gouger and the Swampscott of northern Michigan, which made campfires fun and helped mothers scare their kids into not going out at night.

The movie "Harry and the Hendersons" was my idea of what bigfoot really was.

But I started meeting people who swore they had seen a bigfoot. If you don't know, my Ph.D. is environmental psychology, and over the years I've interviewed a lot of people about a lot of different subjects. So, I decided to interview people who said they had seen bigfoot.

One of those people was a graduate student whose doctoral committee I was on. He invited me to come on a "bigfoot hunt" in a rugged area of the North Cascades.

It was early May and there was a heavy snowmelt, which meant we had to ford a river that was almost waist-deep. We crossed the icy waters. It appeared we were the first people to make the crossing that spring, as there were no boot prints in the ground on the other side.

About 100 yards later, the trail crossed a creek bed that was dry, but still pretty muddy. There in the mud was a set of huge footprints with a very long stride. The tracks were 14½ inches long and 6½ inches wide with five discernible toes.

People with feet that big are professional football and basketball players; they likely don't go running around the woods barefoot … in icy-cold mud.

The tracks were perhaps a week or two old.

Back at the Bigfoot Café in the closest town, they had a whole collection of plaster casts of huge footprints found in the same area.

Since then I've interviewed more than 60 people who swear they've seen large, apelike creatures walking erect in the woods of Canada, Washington, Oregon and California, including a busload of graduate students who all had the same story.

These folks include wilderness guides, librarians, engineers, loggers, psychologists and college teachers, none of whom claims to have been smoking or drinking anything at the time.

Typically they report initially sensing something — a kind of hyperactive excitement; hearing a high-pitched whine; smelling something like a skunk; and seeing a barrel-chested animal that stands five to seven feet tall, walks erect and had long hair of black or brown or silvery hue. Then the he, or she, is gone.

A Freudian psychiatrist could describe these sightings as projections of the human id or libido — the raw, primal, sexual energy in each of us, which reveals itself in wild places where all the distractions of modern society are absent.

This may explain some reports; but all of the Indian tribes of the Pacific Northwest have stories and legends about bigfoot or Sasquatch. There are similar tales among Indians of the Great Lakes, Northeast and Southeast, as well as reported sightings. Myths are part of human nature, but they don't leave tracks.

If I hadn't found those tracks, I would have dismissed the whole thing as a big joke. Physical evidence, however, is a close encounter of the third kind.

When I was working with the "Sightings" TV series, I came across a story from my Lummi Indian friend, Cha-Das-Ka-Dum, about a tape that he made when he was a reservation police officer.

One evening in 1972, he was called out to a remote home where a burglary was reported in progress. He pulled into the driveway and saw a form by the garage. He got out of the car, drew his gun, leveled it at the form and announced he was a police officer.

Cha-Das-Ka-Dum said that it turned, and he saw an apelike creature with two "burning eyes." It let out a high-pitched scream and he smelled an awful skunklike odor. He got back in the car, and the creature approached.

Cha-Das-Ka-Dum then drove along the road and the bigfoot raced beside him, crying. At that point he rolled down the car window partially and stuck his police dispatcher intercom phone out the window. The cries of the animal were recorded at the police station by the dispatcher.

We did a segment on "Sightings" about this story, and took a copy of the tape to have an expert hear it. A zoologist from the Griffith Park Zoo in Los Angeles said it sounded like an animal, but it was a species he had never heard.

I started doing some research. It turns out that all around the globe, people in northern hemispheres have legends about ape-men who live in wild places. Greco-Roman literature abounds with stories about satyrs, fauns, sylvans and centaurs — members of the callicantaryi. In Turkey and Russia, they are called alma. In Tibet, yeti are supposed to be the guardians of sacred places.

On his ascent of Mount Everest, Sir Edmund Hillary photographed the tracks of the yeti, or abominable snowman.

If you're willing to consider that bigfoot or Sasquatch might exist in some fashion, you should have a look at the books of Washington State University anthropologist Grover Krantz, who sought evidence of the creature's existence for years.

Regardless what white folks think, Indians all along the Pacific Northwest coast speak with respect of Sasquatch. Among the Koyukon Indians of Alaska, they are called woodsmen.

Mary Alsup, a psychologist who works with the Trinidad Indian Reservation in northern California in bigfoot country, reports that the Karok tribe believe that if you are out in the woods and come upon a bigfoot, do not be afraid. Look the creature directly in the eye and like a spark of lightning a jolt of energy will jump between you and the beast; and you will acquire all the secrets of nature.

Both Linneaus and Pliny the Elder include apelike, humanoid wildmen in their taxonomic classifications of natural history. Regardless what bigfoot, alma, Sasquatch or yeti is, maybe we have a need to have them around.

James Swan — who has appeared in more than a dozen feature films, including "Murder in the First" and "Star Trek: First Contact," as well as the television series "Nash Bridges," "Midnight Caller" and "Modern Marvels" — is the author of the book "In Defense of Hunting."
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RedRatSnake
Hi

Good find well worth taking a few minutes to read thumbup.gif

Peace
Tim smile.gif
VAFooter
I seem to remember another writer from ESPN or Sports Illustrated who went on a BFRO expedition and wrote respectfully about it. He was going to go on another expedition as well. I think he ended up writing 2-3 articles on it. I believe the first one was in West Virginia. This was a couple of years ago as well.
Flashman
Thanks, interesting piece.

I think the story of that police officer is in someone's book, one of the older classics, because it seems faintly familiar, but not from here or the web. Might have been Rene Dahinden's, not sure, something I read years ago.

Don't remember hearing of this snippet before or seeing details "Both Linneaus and Pliny the Elder include apelike, humanoid wildmen in their taxonomic classifications of natural history." that would be interesting to follow up.
sassfoot
a good find.thanks.
Mike U.
Congrats on finding a real gem. That was worth the time spent. And finding it on ESPN, well, whodathunkit?!
forestguy
Hey - just did some searching - here's the audio of the cry mentioned in the article from that Sightings episode.

Bit freaky...

Cheers,
FG
NWSquatcher
Now that is an interesting recording. icon_eek.gif Not sure my ears are going to recover from how loud that recording plays.
driftinmark
im not sure, but dosent the writer of that article post here also?..........
Flashman
If I heard that clip with no backstory, I'd be thinking it came from something with feathers.
Mulder
That would make ME s**t a brick for sure!

Is it just me or could anyone else hear the "breaks" in the scream at each footfall (from the airflow being jarred)?
NWSquatcher
QUOTE(Flashman @ Oct 27 2009, 03:55 AM) *
If I heard that clip with no backstory, I'd be thinking it came from something with feathers.


My husband thought the same thing, it was something feathered thumbup.gif
Flashman
I can't place it, but got some ancient memory of hearing something similar, want to say something like a pheasant, grouse, guinea fowl or in those families.
KING KAIJU
That is a trip! You can hear the rapid foot falls as this thing is running. Does anyone know the end of the story, what happened afterwards?
DavSquatch
whatever it is it sounds pissed! either that or its a possum be strangled by a fan belt.

dav
Mike U.
QUOTE(DavSquatch @ Oct 27 2009, 04:15 PM) *
whatever it is it sounds pissed! either that or its a possum be strangled by a fan belt.

dav


LMAO!! rofl02.gif

I agree, BTW. It definitely sounds perturbed. Made me a bit perturbed hearing it. I had my speakers turned up from listening to a low volume level podcast and forgot to turn them down. Think I shaved a couple of minutes off my lifespan. icon_stressed.gif
Ilikebluepez
So he just bailed and left whoever may have been in the house to their own devices?

hmmmm.... Sounds like a fishy way for a policeman to behave....unless he was Scared Spitless by whatever he had seen in the garage!!.....Yikes!

That thing sounded mad mad mad mad mad mad mad ...so if there were people in the house then he did a very good thing by distracting the beastie......
driftinmark
hmmm, ya think he may have been emulating the police siren? Im sure hes prolly heard it a few times...........just another possibility
Flashman
QUOTE(driftinmark @ Oct 29 2009, 03:05 PM) *
hmmm, ya think he may have been emulating the police siren? Im sure hes prolly heard it a few times...........just another possibility


We do often hear they are mimics.... it's amusing to think that it was trying to communicate with the cruiser.... what kinda sirens did they have then? the klaxxonny squeee-squauk type ones or the wooOOoo-wooOOOooo type or what?
vilnoori
That sounds like a sped up NA song of some kind. Can someone slow it down and see what it sounds like?
southernyahoo
QUOTE(vilnoori @ Oct 29 2009, 05:05 PM) *
That sounds like a sped up NA song of some kind. Can someone slow it down and see what it sounds like?


I slowed it down 50 percent

Click to view attachment
bipedalist
Sounds like a possessed transmission run amok! Cool, just in time for Halloween, now I'm really scared.
driftinmark
hmmm, slowed down you can almost hear an animal vocal tract................real spooky

heres some police sirens

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JKEPD8Gf98

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L3zM_DMGEE...feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S661EhydTqE...feature=related

these are all from the 60s and 70s
Mulder
QUOTE(southernyahoo @ Oct 29 2009, 08:30 PM) *
I slowed it down 50 percent

Click to view attachment


Slowed down like that you can DEFINITELY hear the "stutter" as it's breath is jolted by it's running.
Mike U.
QUOTE(Mulder @ Oct 30 2009, 12:26 AM) *
Slowed down like that you can DEFINITELY hear the "stutter" as it's breath is jolted by it's running.


Which, BTW, only adds to it's already creepy sound. Good work, SY!
Shef
QUOTE(Ilikebluepez @ Oct 27 2009, 10:09 PM) *
So he just bailed and left whoever may have been in the house to their own devices?

hmmmm.... Sounds like a fishy way for a policeman to behave....unless he was Scared Spitless by whatever he had seen in the garage!!.....Yikes!

That thing sounded mad mad mad mad mad mad mad ...so if there were people in the house then he did a very good thing by distracting the beastie......


Actually... he got the "perp" away from the house if it chased him down the street. I'd call that a job well done... wink.gif

I don't have speakers here, I will have to listen to the audio of this at home.
FanofSquatch
AAARGH! Computer wont let me play it!!!
driftinmark
not for nuttin, but if I was a cop and that thing was running alongside me while I was driving, the last thing I would do is put the mic out the window, great thinking on the part of that officer................

if it was me, just close the window and let the sound of that big V8 do its thing............VROOOOMMMMM
vilnoori
LOL! Well, it was an interesting experiment! Thanks, SY!
Ilikebluepez
QUOTE(Mulder @ Oct 29 2009, 11:26 PM) *
Slowed down like that you can DEFINITELY hear the "stutter" as it's breath is jolted by it's running.


Apparently I am a tech tard and can't figure out how to slow that down even more.....75% please?
Mulder
QUOTE(Ilikebluepez @ Nov 1 2009, 08:49 PM) *
Apparently I am a tech tard and can't figure out how to slow that down even more.....75% please?


Most media players have a playback speed control. Hunt around the options on the one you're using until you find it.
Teresa
What part of that was supposed to be the vocal? That didn't sound like much of anything to me. If there's some noise besides the vocal on the tract could someone clean that up (remove it) where we can get just the vocal?

T
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