robbcat
Oct 16 2009, 03:42 PM
How do the believers explain the obviously light-colored or white face and feet bottoms on the PG subject?
CedarGiant
Oct 16 2009, 03:52 PM
She was rolling out some chocolate chip cookie dough ( yum!) and she got a wee bit carried away and it poofed up onto her face and fell on the floor and she stepped in it and then along came those two darn humans on horseyback and...
Yetifan
Oct 16 2009, 04:01 PM
QUOTE(robbcat @ Oct 16 2009, 02:42 PM)

How do the believers explain the obviously light-colored or white face and feet bottoms on the PG subject?
Believers in the authenticity of the film usually use two arguments.
1) The film subject had just walked through some light-colored sand which is apparently sticking to the soles.
2) Some known large primates have light skinned bottoms of their feet.
White face?
Ace!
Oct 16 2009, 04:37 PM
Do humans have lighter colored soles of their feet. I'm not a feet guy, more a legs/butt man, so I've not noticed.
I thought patty had just had a vanilla ice cream cone while walking through a field of white chocolate.
StacyInMI
Oct 16 2009, 05:06 PM
QUOTE(Ace! @ Oct 16 2009, 06:37 PM)

Do humans have lighter colored soles of their feet. I'm not a feet guy, more a legs/butt man, so I've not noticed.
Yes! I've used this example before... I do work with feet a lot, and with darker-skinned people (including very dark black people) we do see skin on the soles of the feet just as light and pink as someone with blonde hair and blue eyes. I don't know what causes that, but there's a definite line of demarcation, like they stepped in a half-inch of peach-colored paint. I've tried to find a way to sneak a photo--maybe one of these days I'll just ask if I can take one.
RayG
Oct 16 2009, 05:16 PM
QUOTE(Ace! @ Oct 16 2009, 06:37 PM)

Do humans have lighter colored soles of their feet.
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StacyInMI
Oct 16 2009, 05:18 PM
BINGO! Thanks Ray!
norcal logger
Oct 16 2009, 06:48 PM
Could be that all the skin is that color but we just don't see it because she's covered in fur.
BobZenor
Oct 16 2009, 06:54 PM
Thicker
stratum corneum on the feet and high contrast in the film.
RiverRun
Oct 16 2009, 07:20 PM
The suit he had on had light colored feet. No one can see the face well enough to see anything. Perfect for a hoax, not too much detail, not to much clarity of image.
Touchmymonkey
Oct 16 2009, 08:04 PM
I'm not convinced the PG film is of a bigfoot, but I suppose all the believers have to say is because at least some bigfoots have lighter colored soles and faces... I don't see a white face btw. In the earlier versions there's a ski mask looking affect around the eyes.
jamin19
Oct 16 2009, 10:34 PM
QUOTE(BobZenor @ Oct 16 2009, 08:54 PM)

Thicker stratum corneum on the feet and high contrast in the film.
I wonder how many hoaxers would have indluded that detail into their suit?
StacyInMI
Oct 17 2009, 06:32 AM
Over 30 years ago? Hmmmmmmm....I'm gonna go way out on a limb and take a wild-ass guess here and say....zero?
Furious_George
Oct 17 2009, 01:12 PM
That's a good point jamin19. That's one more reason for me to think it wasn't a suit. (I only had one reason prior)
17x7
Oct 17 2009, 02:11 PM
QUOTE(Ace! @ Oct 17 2009, 01:37 AM)

Do humans have lighter colored soles of their feet.
My daughter's skin is just awful dark. Dark enough that here in Africa people call her black. The bottoms of her feet and the palms of her hands are just as pink as mine.
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RiverRun
Oct 17 2009, 02:35 PM
Two examples of rubber feet that are white. The bottom ones are made by Philip Morris. When I look at the PGF, I dont see any flesh colored feet or pink to them. I see white feet.

driftinmark
Oct 18 2009, 08:38 AM
this is interesting, from what i have seen chimps and gorilla hands and feet are mostly black, negroid races are almost always pink or lighter colored on the feet bottoms and hand surfaces.......I doubt that a hoaxer that would want to make the PG film look more realistic would have used lighter colored feet , I cant see the hands in the film close enough to make a good guess
it could be sand sticking to the feet, but I would venture to say that we would see patches then, instead of a solid surface.....so it would be my guess that it is the
actual color of the skin
RR if you look at most old films and some new ones (Planet of the apes comes to mind), you will also notice that the hands and feet are uniform for the whole animal on most of the gorilla costumes........almost all old film costumes have a uniform dark color used for the hands and feet, so someone making a costume from hollywood would probably use these same costume ideas.........
also your pictures that you posted look from pre-production, and not finished product............
slabdog
Oct 18 2009, 09:29 AM


just wanted to see how they compare.......
Interesting
slabdog
Oct 18 2009, 09:36 AM
The reaslistic appearance of Patty's foot was somthing that always had me sitting on the fence, and leaning a little towards the "authentic" side.
I always had a hard time believing that Patterson could have gone into such detail.
Now that I have seen Phillip Morris's foot, I am squarely back on the center of that fence.
Did he have that foot in production during that time period?
Crow Logic
Oct 18 2009, 10:31 AM
Oh I see its primate foot time again. The lightness on the bottom of Patty's foot is both the light surface of the stream bed, over exposure of the film and motion blur. BTW most gorilla costumes have BLACK face, hands and feet.
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Saskeptic
Oct 19 2009, 01:18 PM
QUOTE(Crow Logic @ Oct 18 2009, 11:31 AM)

The lightness on the bottom of Patty's foot is . . . over exposure of the film and motion blur.
My money's on this one. I don't think the color of Patty's soles gets us anywhere. The shape and structure are far more interesting than the color.
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