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dimeslime
Over on Dyer's website (where Bigfoottracker.com has been parked) there is no more mention of a BF body.Looks like his new scam is supposedly sending shoes to kids in Thailand.He must have figured out that this hoax was a bust and cut his losses.Goodbye and good riddance,Rickmat...
Robert
Thanks for the update.

Don't they make Nike shoes in Thailand? Isn't that like sending coal to Newcastle?
billgreen2005bigfoot
is it realy over or is it scratchchin.gif ty bill
LondonPaul
So Dyer's off to Thailand !

No doubt he'll be posting more photos of himself with all the Thai female "friends" he'll be making in Pattaya and Bangkok.

http://rickydyer.page.tl/RICKS-FRIENDS.htm
dimeslime
Now he's got Dyer Films.Below are titles he's selling.Bangok Working Girls must be about all of the humanitarian work he's doing over there...? scratchhead.gif coverlaugh.gif

DVD's

10k sold The Best Of Bigfoottracker.com 2008 $29.95

Georgia Bigfoot Hoax "The True Story" 2008 $24.99

Bangkok Working Girls 2008 $29.99

BBC Black and White 2009 $29.99

Bigfoot Doesn't Live 2009 $29.99

The Best Of Bigfoottracker.com Vol. 2 2009 $29.95

BBC Master People Trackers 2009 $29.99

billgreen2005bigfoot
hey dime i highly douht anyone will buy the ga bigfoot hoaxers dvds or anything from them at all. scratchhead.gif ty bill
wickie
It's not over 'till the fat sas sings
norcal logger
Ya know, it just dawned me. On the news footage of the Georgia floods last month I saw a guy floating down a river in a chest freezer with what looked like a bear skin rug or something. I wonder if...

Naw, couldn't be.
Teresa
Whaddya say we stick a fork in this thing and stop giving them any publicity? What do yall think?
CedarGiant
I saw their claim for "non-profit" for the "Shoes 4 Kids" program. I have contacted them via their website in order to request a copy of their 501 © (3) "determination letter" from the IRS. They are required to according to:
QUOTE
Applying for Exemption - Public Disclosure of Applications


Is an exemption application subject to public disclosure?

An exemption application is subject to public disclosure once it has been finally approved or denied.
via the IRS website: http://www.irs.gov/charities/article/0,,id=136206,00.html

While I sincerely hope that they are in fact using the money for this stated goal of this program, the veracity of Dyer is questionable at the very least.
I have searched a few non-profit watchdog sites and was unable to find anything, their Paypal link is broken, you can not copy and paste anything from their website and a search for "Larry Tilt" the contact turned up nothing.
http://www2.guidestar.org/SearchResults.aspx
If I don't receive a response I will contact the Texas Attorney General for an inquiry into this potential fraud.
QUOTE
Filing a Complaint

The Charitable Trusts Section receives many inquiries and complaints from the general public, news reporters, and other interested parties regarding possible mismanagement or diversion of charitable assets. All complaints about charities are reviewed by the Attorney General's Charitable Trusts section staff.

http://www.oag.state.tx.us/consumer/charit...omplaints.shtml
does anyone know of any other way to contact Rick Dyer?
AMereHuman
QUOTE(billgreen2005bigfoot @ Oct 2 2009, 09:07 PM) *
hey dime i highly douht anyone will buy the ga bigfoot hoaxers dvds or anything from them at all. scratchhead.gif ty bill


Let's just wait for someone to post it on Youtube.
dimeslime
I'm in agreement withCedar Giant.The shoes for kids thing seems like another scam.He takes a couple of pairs of shoes,donates them,and then goes whoring around Thailand.To his credit,it seems that Matt Whitton has distanced himself from Dyer and his scams.I would love to see Dyer investigated and arrested for this little charade.Maybe I should call the "troubleshooters" team here at the local NBC affliate and have them do some digging...? scratchhead.gif
CedarGiant
QUOTE(dimeslime @ Oct 3 2009, 01:58 AM) *
I'm in agreement withCedar Giant.The shoes for kids thing seems like another scam.He takes a couple of pairs of shoes,donates them,and then goes whoring around Thailand.To his credit,it seems that Matt Whitton has distanced himself from Dyer and his scams.I would love to see Dyer investigated and arrested for this little charade.Maybe I should call the "troubleshooters" team here at the local NBC affliate and have them do some digging...? scratchhead.gif

Go for it!!! It's one thing to scam people that should know better, but another thing entirely to steal money in the name of charity...a real scumbag move to say the very least.
bipedalist
FINALLY, YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yahoo.gif
dimeslime
This is weird.I went to his site to gather info before I contact the WOAI Troubleshooters,and I notice he now has a link to Bigfoottracker.com.I click on it and it has a picture of Matt Whitton and underneath it reads 1981-2009.Is this guy dead?Is that why he hasn't been from in a couple months?If anyone can find out,I'd be interested to know.This gets stranger each day...
RayG
QUOTE(CedarGiant @ Oct 3 2009, 01:05 AM) *
...you can not copy and paste anything from their website...


Much to learn you have, young Jedi, much to learn. biggrin.gif

RayG

Teresa
lol try highlighting what's there and then use your menu at the top to copy.
dimeslime
This is how Dyer explains his "charity"...

Rickydyer.com is committed to helping kids across the world.
While having fun doing it.

In December 2009 we will go to Bangkok, Thailand to give out more
shoes to needed children across the city. We need your help!
You can donate shoes, money or your time for this cause.
We gave out over 200 pairs of shoes last year using our on money.
This year our goal is 500 pairs. We are non-profit so everything you give
will go directly to our cause.



or

Larry Tilt
Shoes For Kids
8322 Swift Eagle Dr
San Antoino, TX 78242

If sending Shoes make sure they are New!

His list of documentaries for next year...

FUTURE FILMS

Bangkok Nights "2010"

Trama Mexico "2010"

Mexico Cops "2010"

Life After Chernobyl "2010"

Bigfoot "Money Making Scam" 2010

New Kids On The Block "2010"

I don't think I would send shoes or money to anyone who has the word "scam" on their website... rolleyes2.gif new_thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
CedarGiant
QUOTE(Teresa @ Oct 3 2009, 11:10 AM) *
lol try highlighting what's there and then use your menu at the top to copy.

Thanks, never had to do that anywhere...ever...
dimeslime
Well,I e-mailed the Troubleshooters.I'll let you know if they get back with me...
CedarGiant
QUOTE(dimeslime @ Oct 3 2009, 02:10 PM) *
Well,I e-mailed the Troubleshooters.I'll let you know if they get back with me...

Cool, I found some more emails for his production "crew".
QUOTE
Rick Dyer rick@dyerfilms.com

Idalia Santacruz idalia@dyerfilms.com

Larry Tilt larry@dyerfilms.com

Aaron Ochoa aaron@dyerfilms.com

I'll be contacting them soon.
vilnoori
I think some anonymous person should contact whoever is in charge of checking out bogus charities in that state and report on Dyer. A quick note that he is the famous guy that perpetuated last years bigfoot hoax aught to be enough to have him shut down. Maybe something to the better business bureau or what have you over there. The thought of what he's doing with people's money in Thailand makes me sick to my stomach. I doubt he's handing out shoes to kids.

Hmmm...

The Office of the Inspector General, Texas Department of Criminal Justice

http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/inspector.gene...or.gnl-home.htm

The Ombudsman

http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/adminrvw/adminrvw-ombud.htm

Why don't one of you Americans go ahead and report... evillaugh.gif
dimeslime
QUOTE(vilnoori @ Oct 3 2009, 07:24 PM) *
I think some anonymous person should contact whoever is in charge of checking out bogus charities in that state and report on Dyer. A quick note that he is the famous guy that perpetuated last years bigfoot hoax aught to be enough to have him shut down. Maybe something to the better business bureau or what have you over there. The thought of what he's doing with people's money in Thailand makes me sick to my stomach. I doubt he's handing out shoes to kids.

I already included that fact in the E-mail I sent to WOAI.Hopefully,they will follow up on this.I still want to know why the site looks to be saying Whitton is dead,or is he just dead to Dyer?I've e-mailed their "contact us" links several times with no replies.The text of my E-mail to WOAI Troubleshooters...

There is a man here in S.A. named Rick Dyer that is claiming to be donating shoes to children in Thailand. He is seeking donations of cash and new shoes.What some might not know is he was one of the parties involved in the Bigfoot body hoax in the Summer of 2008.He proudly boasts that he pulled off one of the best hoaxes/ scams ever.It looks as though he is using the funds to fund travel to meet prostitutes in Thailand and Mexico.I would hate to see San Antonionian's hard earned money used to fund his trips under the guise of charity.If you'd like to take a look at his website http://www.rickydyer.com/ you will see why this has myself and a few others concerned.
Thank You,
CedarGiant
QUOTE(vilnoori @ Oct 3 2009, 08:24 PM) *
I think some anonymous person should contact whoever is in charge of checking out bogus charities in that state and report on Dyer. A quick note that he is the famous guy that perpetuated last years bigfoot hoax aught to be enough to have him shut down. Maybe something to the better business bureau or what have you over there. The thought of what he's doing with people's money in Thailand makes me sick to my stomach. I doubt he's handing out shoes to kids.

Hmmm...

The Office of the Inspector General, Texas Department of Criminal Justice

http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/inspector.gene...or.gnl-home.htm

The Ombudsman

http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/adminrvw/adminrvw-ombud.htm

Why don't one of you Americans go ahead and report... evillaugh.gif
I'm not sure if you saw my post? I am going to report him, if he doesn't either:
A. contact me and forward a copy of the required IRS document or at least ( sent him a request for that already).
B. If he can't or won't then he would need to remove any reference to being a non-profit from his website.

I thought that in the interest of decency, I would give him some time to respond before contacting the appropriate authorities.
billgreen2005bigfoot
hey vil & dime WOWW this thread is realy getting intence now please keep it up i realy liked the above replys as well we shall see what happens though. ty bill g new_specool.gif lol2.gif
vilnoori
QUOTE(CedarGiant @ Oct 3 2009, 06:33 PM) *
I'm not sure if you saw my post? I am going to report him, if he doesn't either:
A. contact me and forward a copy of the required IRS document or at least ( sent him a request for that already).
B. If he can't or won't then he would need to remove any reference to being a non-profit from his website.

I thought that in the interest of decency, I would give him some time to respond before contacting the appropriate authorities.


Yay CedarGiant. I wouldn't even do that, he's already proven he's a fraud. Just turn him in. His past record speaks for itself. Plus where was that stuff about him and those prosties in Thailand...that would come in handy too for some ammo.
CedarGiant
QUOTE(vilnoori @ Oct 3 2009, 10:32 PM) *
Yay CedarGiant. I wouldn't even do that, he's already proven he's a fraud. Just turn him in. His past record speaks for itself. Plus where was that stuff about him and those prosties in Thailand...that would come in handy too for some ammo.

Other than that video, which I do not plan on buying, is there somewhere that he actually admits using Asian prostitutes? That would be great info. to pass if it's necessary to report him.
dimeslime
QUOTE(CedarGiant @ Oct 4 2009, 12:48 AM) *
Other than that video, which I do not plan on buying, is there somewhere that he actually admits using Asian prostitutes? That would be great info. to pass if it's necessary to report him.

Look in the "Rick's Friends" area on his site.If those girls aren't pro's then I don't know who is.They look like they're all Mexican,but if he's buyin' it there,I'm sure he doing the same in Thailand...
Touchmymonkey
I just wanted to chime in here and say that I'm glad to see some of you all looking into this charity stuff and are holding his feet to the fire. It's some nerve he has to be known for a big hoax and then ask for money for charity. I wonder if he just gets off on the attention even though it's negative? I can't relate. I prefer no attention than negative attention. Whether or not we should ignore him or not, I don't know. I think it's good to make his life hell and help protect others from fraud, but hate the possibility he's getting off on being noticed.

dimeslime
Maybe if enough people E-mail the local news here will look into this.They are usually very good at putting scam artists and the like out of business...

TroubleShooters@woaitv.com
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CedarGiant
It seems I got their attention at least with this:

QUOTE
As evidenced on your website here:
http://rickydyer.page.tl/SHOES-4-KIDS.htm?...4bed5dd863e393e

"Rickydyer.com is committed to helping kids across the world.
While having fun doing it.

In December 2009 we will go to Bangkok, Thailand to give out more
shoes to needed children across the city. We need your help!
You can donate shoes, money or your time for this cause.
We gave out over 200 pairs of shoes last year using our on money.
This year our goal is 500 pairs. We are non-profit so everything you give
will go directly to our cause.

Preview Image"

You claim to be a non-profit.I request a copy of your 501 © (3) "determination letter" from the IRS. You are required to according to:
"Applying for Exemption - Public Disclosure of Applications


Is an exemption application subject to public disclosure?

An exemption application is subject to public disclosure once it has been finally approved or denied." either way I'd like to see your approval or denial.

via the IRS website: http://www.irs.gov/charities/article/0,,id=136206,00.html

I have searched a few non-profit watchdog sites and was unable to find anything, your Paypal link is broken, you can not copy and paste anything from your website and a search for "Larry Tilt" the contact turned up nothing.
http://www2.guidestar.org/SearchResults.aspx
If I don't receive a response I will contact the Texas Attorney General for an inquiry into this potential fraud.

"Filing a Complaint

The Charitable Trusts Section receives many inquiries and complaints from the general public, news reporters, and other interested parties regarding possible mismanagement or diversion of charitable assets. All complaints about charities are reviewed by the Attorney General's Charitable Trusts section staff."

http://www.oag.state.tx.us/consumer/charit...omplaints.shtml

I would like to see either:

A. Contact me and forward a copy of the required IRS document.
B. Remove any reference to being a non-profit from your website.

I assure you this is not a joke, I truly hope you are using any monies for the benefit of the children, but if not I will pursue this.
Sincerely,



Because they changed the website to now read this:
QUOTE
or

Larry Tilt
Bangkok, Thailand
Shoes for Kids is located in Bangkok Thailand

I guess they think by 'moving' the org. out of the country they can still advertise as "non-profit", we shall see.
dimeslime
I haben't heard anything from the local NBC affiliate yet.I may send them the updated info about Dyer and co.supposedly moving their "charity" to Thailand.This guy is making the BF community look like hoaxers,scammers and rubes.I find it ironic that he travels to far off destinations to hook up with "working girls" some who look barely of legal age,while twice accusing a well known researcher of pedophilia.Glasses houses,Dyer,glass houses....
CedarGiant
QUOTE(dimeslime @ Oct 6 2009, 02:21 PM) *
I haben't heard anything from the local NBC affiliate yet.I may send them the updated info about Dyer and co.supposedly moving their "charity" to Thailand.This guy is making the BF community look like hoaxers,scammers and rubes.I find it ironic that he travels to far off destinations to hook up with "working girls" some who look barely of legal age,while twice accusing a well known researcher of pedophilia.Glasses houses,Dyer,glass houses....

I emailed them yesterday ( the link you provided) as well, no response from them or Dyer or Tilt ( other than changing the wording on the site, although it still says non-profit). I'm going to forward all info. to the appropriate authorities.

Dimeslime, could you get some screen shots of their site as well for backup, in case they change it again?
dimeslime
I don't know how to do the whole screenshot thing.Could someone please do this? I'm hoping that we can stop this scam before it get's going...
Joey70s
Wtf Non profit organisation sending shoes??? Get the hell outta here, These guys are shady as F-ck. Excuse my languauge im jus hella angry. I still stand by what ive said before i will punch both of these mofos in the face if we ever meet. Then i would steal their wallets and hand them into the nearest charity shop. Then take their shoes and send that ish to Africa. How is anyone gonna take these guys seriously, they've lost all credability and destroyed their reputation with that hoax. And then they tried to pull another hoax I mean come on now. Like i said before they've lost all credabilty, they need to realise no ones gonna do buisness with them. The police threw them a lifeline of their jobs back but they rejected it. Decided to try and repeat the hoax they did months before. HAhA now they have now career and are runnig a charity scam. You all saw they're video blogs these guys are RETARDED, im not joking there is somthing mentally wrong with these people. anyway alotta hate there thanks for reading.
GrapeApe
Cedar & dimeslime, I could get a screen capture of their website and forward it to dimeslime via email. Or to cedar if you want to pm your email address to me. Let me know either or both and if there are specific parts of it you want. Good job guys.
vilnoori
dimeslime in my computer you open up your paint or imaging program and under the File menu there should be an Import option, and Screen Capture under that one. Different programs store it in different spots. There is also a keyboard function most computers have, maybe someone can help you on that, usually a "print screen" or something on the keyboard.
GrapeApe
Hey guys!
I already have screen captures from his website. I have several and, guess what?; on the shoes for kids part of the site, right at the top of that window, right under the shoes for kids header it says......San Antonio, TX. Not very thorough is he? Let me know if you want the pics, 'K?
CedarGiant
PM sent Grape!
CedarGiant
Oh, Hey Grape,( or anyone else willing) Do you know what sites to go to, to find a 'capture' of a website from earlier, the sites with functions that crawl the internet? If so could you try to get a 'capture' screenshot of the shoes for kids page before they changed it?
( That one had this Larry Tilts address as the main contact)
RiverRun
QUOTE(CedarGiant @ Oct 7 2009, 02:38 AM) *
Oh, Hey Grape,( or anyone else willing) Do you know what sites to go to, to find a 'capture' of a website from earlier, the sites with functions that crawl the internet? If so could you try to get a 'capture' screenshot of the shoes for kids page before they changed it?
( That one had this Larry Tilts address as the main contact)


You can try archive.org
CedarGiant
QUOTE(RiverRun @ Oct 7 2009, 02:44 AM) *
You can try archive.org

That's it! thanks RR.
GrapeApe
I'll check it out too. BTW, if any of you are running Vista on your PC, you should find a Snipping Tool under Accessories that will capture any part of the screen that you want. Or the whole screen. Very easy to use too.
dimeslime
This saga is getting weirder by the day.The newest BFTracker video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN28CUkeaZA&feature=sub
billgreen2005bigfoot
hey dime interesting new above video but hmmm i think computerpunch.gif scratchchin.gif
CedarGiant
QUOTE(dimeslime @ Oct 7 2009, 10:13 AM) *
This saga is getting weirder by the day.The newest BFTracker video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN28CUkeaZA&feature=sub

So now he's cyber-stalking Matt Whitton with the insinuation that Matt is dead? Is that his grade school attempt to get Matt's attention?
Jeepers Creepers...
billgreen2005bigfoot
hey cedergiant & dimeslime i realy dont think matt whitton passed away at all but we have wait to see what happens next indeed... ohmy.gif new_rolleyessmileyanim.gif
dimeslime
I'm interested to know what angle Dyer is playing with this "Matt is dead" stunt.Seems like another way that he's using something that could be a real life tragedy for his own reasons.This is getting better than "Days of Our Lives".... popcorn2.gif reaper.gif
Exeplis
GrapeApe THANK YOU for pointing out that snipping tool, I never would've known I had that ability on my computer!
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