COGrizzly
Sep 8 2009, 03:56 PM
Those of you whom are saying "bird" - could you elaborate. Saskeptic, I think you did, but I still am not buying it.
Isn't the tall grasses obscuring the viewing of the legs?
Other animals were identified on the cam as rabbit, etc. Those images were not of good quality either.
Megatarsal
Sep 8 2009, 03:59 PM
yeah, i see it now. here it is from another angle. game over

Megatarsal
GuyInIndiana
Sep 8 2009, 04:25 PM
QUOTE(arklatex @ Sep 8 2009, 11:39 AM)

I saw the video on this and the camera the man used was a Moultrie D-40. They have a sensor range of around 30 feet. This shaggy thing seemed much farther out. Hmmmm.

Whatever it was had some impressive forearms though. Arklatex
It WOULD be great to know what he got the pics on... I've had several Moultries, all of which I've LOVED (I-40's especially), and the range to trigger the cam surely wouldn't be what we're seeing here.
CrimsonGoblin
Sep 8 2009, 04:27 PM
Ha ha ha....good one Megatarsal.
I just can't go with the bird theory....maybe it's just the mood I'm in today but a crow, that's just bloody ludicrous. I have about 500 crows and a nesting pair of ravens in my neighborhood and well c'mon people.
Not saying it's a bigfoot in the picture but the crow theory...jeez
Ace!
Sep 8 2009, 04:38 PM
My son just walked by (he'll be six in a week and a half) and he looked at the picture and said, "Hey Dad, why's that chupacabra fighting with that mangy bear?"
CrimsonGoblin
Sep 8 2009, 04:44 PM
LOL
Megatarsal
Sep 8 2009, 04:50 PM
i'm in a creative mood......

Megatarsal
billgreen2005bigfoot
Sep 8 2009, 04:57 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-22639-Google-Tre...-draws-interest hey everyone here a brand new article about the ky sasquatch photo injoy reading it. i even made a comment in the article as well. good evening bill g
Robert
Sep 8 2009, 05:07 PM
"Look over in the woods, it's a bird, it's a bear, it's... no, it's just a bird."
It's hard to make it out as a bird because it was caught in motion, thus it looks blurry and somewhat distorted.
Stick a fork in this one.
CrimsonGoblin
Sep 8 2009, 05:20 PM
I'll need proof, not opinion. Again, I'm not crying "bigfoot", it could be anything in the pic, I just don't see crow...but I may ending up eating some
nightwing
Sep 8 2009, 05:32 PM
QUOTE(Va-Bigfoot @ Sep 8 2009, 01:06 PM)

I’ve spent some more time analyzing the pictures, I really think it’s a black bird or crow caught in the take-off mode. The perception is off, making you think the creature is farther back in the grass when the bird is really much closer to the camera. I can see separation of what looks like feathers, hence the slight motion blur of what could be perceived as the creature’s arms.
Too bad the camera was not set to video mode.
Just a bird!
William M. Dranginis
Manassas, VA.
www.VirginiaBigfootResearch.Org
www.CedarFiles.Org
Bill, I don't always agree with you, but although I was initially pretty interested in this one I now think you got it. The arms are wings, you can see the feather seperation, the rest is motion blurred to the point that any detail is washed out.
FWIW, game cams if it's cool, often far exceed their rated distance, so 50, even 100 feet is not impossible to detect..just very unlikely unless it was very cool(say, under 50 degrees). I've gotten deer on a very similar camera(Moultrie), to well over 100 feet on a very cool morning, so they can at times work well outside of their rated detection distance..but again, I'm really thinking bird on this one.
Gigantofootecus
Sep 8 2009, 05:33 PM
Yep, black bird in some stage of flight. You have to assume this object is much closer than the distant field with the bush. You can see part of the bush thru the wings, which would be impossible if this was a distant object next to the bush. Otherwise, this object is close to the camera and off the ground. Maybe a bird with a downward flap to slow its decent. A birds image can be very distorted with all their range of motion and the motion of their wings. The darkness of the bird combined with the poor quality of the photo is the reason you don't see any definitive bird details. Neat illusion tho.
This is a bigfoot if the light area in the red circle is in front of the object, which I don't think is the case. Also JPEG artifacts can be very misleading.
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arklatex
Sep 8 2009, 05:48 PM
QUOTE(GuyInIndiana @ Sep 8 2009, 05:25 PM)

It WOULD be great to know what he got the pics on... I've had several Moultries, all of which I've LOVED (I-40's especially), and the range to trigger the cam surely wouldn't be what we're seeing here.
From what I saw on the video, I'm 100% certain it was a D40. I've had a few myself. I have an I-40 as well, takes fantastic day pics. As far as the range, I'm not sure. But then again, i've never gotten a black shaggy creature on my D-40's either.

Arklatex
JayleeD
Sep 8 2009, 05:50 PM
I've got to go with bird in flight also. It looks like a crow that's just taking off or coming in to land IMO.
billgreen2005bigfoot
Sep 8 2009, 05:51 PM
the internet news media like google yahoo etc are still haveing articles about this ky photo. updates as this continues...
RiverRun
Sep 8 2009, 05:52 PM
Looks like a bird to me too. Got spooked and had just taken flight.
ShadoAngel
Sep 8 2009, 05:58 PM
I agree with the crow theory. It may not necessarily be a crow, but it's definitely a bird of some kind. As pointed out before, the *entire* creature is visible in front of the tall grass. It's a lot closer to the camera than the grasses/flowers are, so if you compare it to the much larger flora in the background [which appear smaller in the picture due to the distance] it would lead to an artificial increase in the subject's size.
It's very easy for me to see the bird in the picture. It's incredibly hard to see a primate in the photo. As pointed out earlier, the limbs look much more like wings with feathers than primate arms with extremely long hair. Also the body of a sasquatch would have to be standing in the grass and the arms hanging over in front of the grass in order to create the gap in between the limbs where you see the grass showing through. If you watch the video you can see the home owner standing in the field and the distance makes this theory simply impossible - there is no way you could get that cut and dry look of the subject pasted on the background naturally. It's either a blobsquatch edited into the picture, which it doesn't appear to be or it's a black bird flapping it's wings downward, either taking off or landing.
billgreen2005bigfoot
Sep 8 2009, 06:04 PM
hey everyone i still say its a primate of some kind in the photo
Redwolf
Sep 8 2009, 06:31 PM
I am jumping on the bird bandwagon.
Apeman
Sep 8 2009, 06:39 PM
Click to view attachmentI also think a bird is the obvious explanation.
COGrizzly
Sep 8 2009, 06:55 PM
Holy cow, it is a bird, I see it now, thanks to Gigantofootecus. Totally a bird. Thanks. That was a fun afternoon.
billgreen2005bigfoot
Sep 8 2009, 07:00 PM
its a primate of some kind gorilla or something like a gorilla.
Furious_George
Sep 8 2009, 07:18 PM
I don't see the bird. I tried but it is not coming to me. Maybe my mind is made up because of the guy standing behind the flowers. I think I know what you mean but the figure looks like it is behind the flowers as well.
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spookysully
Sep 8 2009, 07:28 PM
QUOTE(StoneyRocks @ Sep 8 2009, 11:38 AM)

If this event doesn't show why game cams are a waste of time and money to collect evidence of BF's existence, I don't what does....way too easy to discredit....only a body is acceptable evidence. Don't buy game cams, buy more guns.....
Bigfoot Math:
blurry pictures=ridicule for BF believers
dead BF corpse=ridicule for BF non-believers
I agree!
But you gotta love this place! A ghilly suited government stooge from Fort knox somehow losing his way and ending up in this guys back yard, or a bird? C'mon people, you can do better than that! I've seen purported BF pics and vids get more raking over the coals from the local news anchors!
Here, people can shoot down someones pics and vids with the safety of both anonymity and being able to claim that they're just doing it to protect BF research! I think those two examples of protection aren't up to par with the usual ridicule but then again, I think it looks like a primate of some kind.
Cheers
boss_of_the_woods
Sep 8 2009, 07:49 PM
Its a Crow...... Flying away with its head down in shame....... b/c it has no feet..
damndirtyape
Sep 8 2009, 07:55 PM
I see what almost everyone else is thinking when they say it is a black bird flying through or towards the feeder and tripping the camera. I have some problems with this low of resolution of a camera being able to capture it and have it look like this though. Yes, what might be wing tips are blurred as they should be but they do not look like feathers. The image could very well be of a primate pulling out wild celery to eat at a clearing's edge as well.
COGrizzly
Sep 8 2009, 08:01 PM
Furious George - I wish I knew how to do the red circle thingies. Look between the "arms" of the "BF". Do you see a yellow leaf? It is part of the small bush the guy was talking about just to the right of the subject. That leaf is part of that bush. Thus, the subject is well in front of the bush. Its a black bird of some sort. Focus on where those arms (wings) lead to...you can clearly see feathers.
Why doesn't the BFF collectively offer their "services" to CNN or other news sources?

Juuuust kidding. But it is a little scary that it only took a few hours to put a fork in this one. And it was on freakin CNN?????
billgreen2005bigfoot
Sep 8 2009, 08:12 PM
damndirtyape
Sep 8 2009, 08:14 PM
So now there are big tracks left behind. That would rule out a bird... but maybe not a bear.
ThePattyWagon
Sep 8 2009, 08:22 PM
What the ??
So, if there were tracks left, why didn't he mention it in the interview, and if he did, why did it end up on the cutting room floor?
The tracks would be as important as the photo, or at least help corroborate the possibility of the photo being something other than a bird.
norcal logger
Sep 8 2009, 08:38 PM
Rewatch the vid. He's lived there his whole life and something unusual was ripping up his greenbeans. That's why he put the camera up. He also says that the vegetation is mashed down. And the news anchor says that bears are unheard of in Jefferson County.
I won't guess one way or the other but it does make you wonder.
Kite-Squatch
Sep 8 2009, 09:08 PM
QUOTE(Apeman @ Sep 8 2009, 08:39 PM)


I also think a bird is the obvious explanation.
Ape, thanks for posting that photo. The "configuration" the bird in your photo is in is almost exactly what's in the game cam IMO. I was going to try to "draw" that, but Gawd-Knows what my drawing would have looked like....
;~)°
cryptidon
Sep 8 2009, 09:10 PM
Ah, the wheel turns.
I thought the bird theory was dead on. Bird in flight, close to the camera explains why there aren't multiple pictures (that we are aware of) of what otherwise looks like a gorilla sitting criss-cross-applesauce and pulling up the greenery.
If the foliage is tamped down and there are some kind of tracks - then there should be a helluva lot more pictures. If there aren't, it doesn't matter if it was Bigfoot or a baby mammoth.
I can't shake the notion that the image is a trick of perspective - but not a trick itself.
l3lacken
Sep 8 2009, 09:29 PM
With the proximity to Ft Knox, yes that Ft Knox! I have to agree to the ghillie suit theory. When I first saw the image, ghillie suit was the first thing I thought. Ft Knox is a training base, and I can see the possibility of a lost soldier stopping to get their bearings. If this is the case I hope this soldier takes a refresher course on the art of camo.
julio12
Sep 8 2009, 09:58 PM
Lets see No prints to go with the picture well i go with crow.It just makes sense and the way these guys think it would have approached that camera from behind it to investigate it before it would have comprimise it self.So this person most likely would have found some prints left somewhere on the property knowing these creatures.You know flesh and blood thing and not that paranormal thing Right! They are animals or mamals right ! So they will leave some other evidence behind besides a picture. True!
Did not see the new article about the tracks ,If true where are the pictures of the tracks?
billgreen2005bigfoot
Sep 8 2009, 10:22 PM
hey everyone lets be patient please im sure we will see more detailed updated new articles about this photo late today or tommarrow. updates as this continues. try to stay postive

ty bill g
Furious_George
Sep 8 2009, 10:41 PM
Okay thanks COGrizzly, I see how people see the bird now.
A question for Saskeptic or any other Audubon folk; Would a bird of this kind in take off or landing position have large tail feathers pointing down? Meaning covering up the flowers in the middle.
.....And does anyone see the flowers in one of the enlarged photos in front of the subjects lower left (our right) wing or arm? Or is it just my crummy screen?. C'mon people, I already told people at work it was a BF. Help me out. If it's a bird, I might have to call in sick for a day or two.
One more thing. I think the footprints people are referring to is the one print of a deer in the CNN clip, emphasizing that he knows his animals... Maybe????
Bullfrog31581
Sep 8 2009, 10:45 PM
I also think its a crow or similar type bird in flight. My cameras have taken similar blurred pics of crows in flight. I'll look through my archives to see if I still have any.
Southern Squatch
Sep 8 2009, 11:52 PM
Furious_George:
QUOTE
C'mon people, I already told people at work it was a BF. Help me out. If it's a bird, I might have to call in sick for a day or two.
gpucci
Sep 9 2009, 12:09 AM
Kind of looks like a bear to me.. Like it's sitting with it's back towards the camera.. I can see the ape thing as well but I really have to go out on a limb to see that.. Looks like your typical black bear in an odd pose.. I am sure the guy captures lots of bears, and this one is no different.
That blackbird pic looks pretty good too, but it's so pixelated that you cant tell if it's behind or in front of the shrub.. Weird..
forestguy
Sep 9 2009, 04:45 AM
QUOTE(norcal logger @ Sep 9 2009, 12:38 PM)

something unusual was ripping up his greenbeans. He also says that the vegetation is mashed down.
Yeah, but isn't that a deer feeder he's got set up in the yard there? If I want something to stay out of my veggies I don't put up a feeder in front of them.
mark BOY
Sep 9 2009, 05:02 AM
Does anyone know how big the feeder is? In the full wider shot in the CNN report it'd be nice to know how big the bird/squatch is in relation to everything.
Also, has anyone tried contacting the guy direct about getting the original image?
bigfootnis
Sep 9 2009, 05:48 AM
This is in the Jefferson National Forest outside of Louisville where I coincidentally ride my bicycle every morning. During my rides, I do see lots of wild life. I do, of coarse, keep my eyes open just in case one of the big fellows shows up. I think my chances are better than most being on a bicycle which runs very quietly. There have been a few sightings reported in this area. I have seen quite a few wild turkeys. There are also quite a few crows. Accordingly, this is the most likely culprit.
I will take some photos this morning and attach for everyone to view. If I get a chance, I may use this story as a way to breach the subject with some of the people who reside in the area.
billgreen2005bigfoot
Sep 9 2009, 06:32 AM
http://www.popfi.com/2009/09/09/the-bigfoot-of-kentucky/ hey everyone admins good morning wow read this brand new article about this possible sasquatch photo now ill see nuteral comments & replys comeing now indeed. keep in touch ok..
BobTo
Sep 9 2009, 06:55 AM
I don't believe that is any bird, unless both wrist joints are broken. Even a hawk mantling won't twist their wing.
What it is, I'm not sure. It looks like a gorilla. Now whether it's faked is another whole story.
p.s. I've studied birds for over 55 years.
BobTo
Sep 9 2009, 07:33 AM
I thought about this and one thing that is entirely possible is it's a mount where the wings can be twisted and manipulated into unnatural positions. There is also a problem with the angle of beak meeting with the head. just my opinion but again with a bad mount I've seen worse.
It really needs to be more blurry to tell exactly what it is. LOL
JayleeD
Sep 9 2009, 07:47 AM
QUOTE(forestguy @ Sep 9 2009, 05:45 AM)

Yeah, but isn't that a deer feeder he's got set up in the yard there? If I want something to stay out of my veggies I don't put up a feeder in front of them.
Exactly! That one had me confused also. Why gripe about a few green beans when you've got a deer feeder set up right next to the garden. Makes no sense.
I have to question the supposed large tracks that are now being reported. The CNN video showed deer tracks and if there had been large human shaped footprints, I have to think they would have been filmed also.
I still say it's a crow coming in for a landing under the feeder.
arklatex
Sep 9 2009, 07:50 AM
QUOTE(ThePattyWagon @ Sep 8 2009, 09:22 PM)

What the ??
So, if there were tracks left, why didn't he mention it in the interview, and if he did, why did it end up on the cutting room floor?
The tracks would be as important as the photo, or at least help corroborate the possibility of the photo being something other than a bird.

I agree. Seems like tracks at the scene just might be a tad...important. Arklatex
Touchmymonkey
Sep 9 2009, 08:08 AM
Looks like a trash bag to me.
Just read the crow idea above. Not bad, not bad at all, didn't think of that.
hopeful
Sep 9 2009, 08:51 AM
QUOTE(Va-Bigfoot @ Sep 8 2009, 12:06 PM)

I’ve spent some more time analyzing the pictures, I really think it’s a black bird or crow caught in the take-off mode. The perception is off, making you think the creature is farther back in the grass when the bird is really much closer to the camera. I can see separation of what looks like feathers, hence the slight motion blur of what could be perceived as the creature’s arms.
Too bad the camera was not set to video mode.
Just a bird!
William M. Dranginis
Manassas, VA.
www.VirginiaBigfootResearch.Org
www.CedarFiles.Org
That's exactly what I was thinking.
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