The man's out there doing what very view people have the time or chance to do on their own. Even if nothing "scientific" ever comes from it it's still good clean fun to say the least. He is offering us free of charge a chance to go along for the ride. Nothing more, nothing less. Just enjoy it.

Oh I don't know if this guy is willfully trying to deceive anyone, and he doesn't appear to be asking for anything in return other than attention from people who enjoy his clips. I suppose it's possible he's trying to build up a fan base in anticipation of a book or DVD collection of some magical piece of trumped up "evidence" that he'll eventually tease about but never post on You Tube. If something like that was afoot, then it would be sad if he was planning to ultimately prey upon the sensibilities (and wallets) of people far more gullible than they who participate here. Seems more likely though that he's just a guy having fun in the field and we're part of it.



My only "objection" to going along for that ride is that it's sort of a silly ride. Either (a) he fervently believes that the things he presents on video (e.g., the human footprints on the riverbank) are bigfoot evidence, and that is silly, or ( he doesn't actually believe that these things are all evidence, even though he acts on camera as if they are, and that is silly. I have to think that option b is more likely, and if that's the case, then how is watching his clips really any different than watching clips from any number of teenaged boys staging their own bigfoot encounter for the You Tubes?

That said, there are a lot worse things he could be doing with his time, and I'd never want to discourage someone from getting out in the field, so i don't really have a problem here.

There seems to be two camps on Tcsjr here. On one hand he is posting on a BF discussion board and has a web site,a Youtube page and internet radio show all about BF research. He really has not produced anything other than a print cast and some videos of prints and stick structures. So he is getting alot of attention and drawing alot of scrutiny from people who are saying "put up or shut up" so to speak. On the other side you have people, like myself, who can relate to the guy and don't really hold him to anything we just like his videos. I support him because I know where he is coming from, he does not have a degree in Bigfootery, he swings a hammer for a living so yeah he is going to mispeak or say something dumb. Thats why I support him because he is alot like the guys I work with and hang out with and he's a genius in the knucklehead world because he figured out how to post on Youtube. I don't expect anything from him other than cool videos, if he finds something some day great for him.

Very well put FoS

Hey Tim - keep up the hard work and getting yourself out in the field. Do it for yourself and what you beleive in. The armchair cynics can keep munching dorito's and tossing comments at others to validate their meek existance.

If that slur were any more tired it would have died from exhaustion by now. The funniest thing is it is often directed at people with hundreds of hours of time "in the field" by people ignorant of their activities.

That "slur" was directed at the audacious comment that was directed at him by one individual. Sorry I did not specify that. On another note, if comments like that are tiring, its because they were said so many times.... Wonder why?

I am not a field researcher (yet) and I grew up with a lot of guys just like Tim. While I went on to college and obtained a couple of degrees, that doesn't impress them, and we are still friends.

I agree with you. He doesn't really know what he's doing out there, in the sense that he's never had any formal education or training. He's making it up as he goes, and " he's a genius in the knucklehead world because he figured out how to post on Utube" is right.

Sure he gets pretty excited and worked up sometimes, maybe he doesn't always use the 'correct' terminology or evidence gathering techniques, and it might sound like he's hyping it up, but I think he is genuinely excited by what he is doing.

I say we leave him be and enjoy the ride. Who knows, maybe he will be the one?

Exactly my point.

Hey tcsjr...did u ever post the video of the possible bedding area? or did i just miss it?

Keep up the hard work man!

He hasn't posted it yet.

I don't know? Lack of any legitimate argument?

To be clear, I'm not disparaging Tcsjr for his activities. I do think however that when he puts something out there that those videos should be expected to be discussed from both the pro and con sides.

look at the video at 4.38
that looks like a huge footprint (obviously no size comparison, Tim seems not to see this one), very wide toes, very deep imprint.
what do you make of this one? obviously human?

Megatarsal

What might you feel are the pros of this discussion?

I counted about 10 clear prints, and sent pics of them to him. We work on that together. He's happy as hell that there are tech heads out there to help in that department. I keep a separate file for him, and a few others, just to clear things up from their videos.

Tim keep doing what you are doing. It is positive and productive while at the same time gaining what all these negative armchair researchers that are so quick to belittle and mock will never get.... RESPECT !!! Keep up the passion bro

I think one of the definite pros is that Tcsjr has shown a good example of how an independent person can get their work out by taking advantage of available media. Prior to my leaving the AIBR I had recommended a similar effort to help showcase the efforts of the various members.

I think hes entertaining to watch certainly. Seems like a good guy. Just feel like I'm ghost watching or chupacabra hunting with some of the reactions and jen you wine ack tin skillz. I just think some of the findings are a little biased. Certainly any of it is "open to interpretation" and it leads to motive and experience as to where that may lead. Thats the part where I chuckle a little bit. Thats all I will say.





Them darn armchair cynics probably never stepped foot in them thar woods. Much less be able to distinguish things like uhhh.... ahhh forget it.

At 1:41 the paddle/oar is stretched out to the shore and the shaft wobbles significantly. I went down to the local boating store to seek comparisons but all the paddle/oars had quite wide heads (compared to the thin head in the clip) and the shafts were all solid and did not bend with the exception of some aluminium shafts which bent slightly when shaken vigorously but certainly not to the extent shown on the clip.

Is that a common type of paddle/oar in North America? How does it achieve any traction in the water with such a small head and unstable shaft?

I'm not a boating person but it is curious that the paddle/oar was the only thing used as a size comparison.

I think in Australia the oars are mostly wood. In the States they are mostly made out of dead trees. haha sorry.
I saw what you meant. It was pretty flexible.

The way i see it is simple.. I think any perceptive individual can spot a hoax from the truth in most cases.

There will always be the tell tale signs of a potential hoax.

I was about to list a few things, then i realized how long a list like that would be.

I once mentioned that in this digital age, there is very little excuse not to capture a sharp, and clear image of such a creature, assuming something like that even exists.

I think that Tcsjr has a very likable personality, and he's just like alot of us. Its cool that he spends the time and effort required in the forests of Ohio, and brings us day by day updates of his research.

Would the critics prefer he not do this? Or would you all prefer to critique his use of language and mannerisms and explainations instead?

I think all of the stuff he records is explainable, but i would also assume that most anyone else watching it can conclude that for themselves.

If there is such a thing like sasquatch, wouldnt you like to be a part of the adventure on a day by day video journey with a dude like Tcsjr?

One last point.

How long does a hoaxer even stand a chance on a forum such as this anyhow? my point being, that a hoax can often be spotted and disproven a mile away.

Thus far, Tcsjr has taken us on a fun journey that really is interesting, even if such a thing like bigfoot doesnt exist, its the journey i personally enjoy.

An actual claim to something is a different story however, and is fair game to all those with an opinion and facts, and should face the scrutiny of those with differing opinions, but until then, all it realy is, is just an interesting journey.

todude - from what ive seen and experienced, hoaxers or folks people here think are hoaxers are given a hard time and they dont stick around too long. good thing if they are hoaxing, but if there not and just cant prove anything (yet) well, somebody's going to miss out eventually.

Grazhopprr - good effort. will we get to see these sometime?

Megatarsal

All research has to begin somewhere and unfold so to speak. Looks like the way you choose to do it can be a lot different from person to person in the field. Some pour over maps, some have a sighting, some see "signs", some go on hearsay, some hear vocals. Then, how you proceed to follow-up with it or report it is up to you. This seems to be an exercise in discovery. I agree with todude and magatarsals statements. I would not choose to do things this way because I would miss too much being eye-glued to a camcorder, I'm a visual detail man but not behind a lens necessarily. Though I don't remain quiet at all times in the woods I would find the narrative distracting as well because it is being in tune to the sounds of the woods that helps you know when you have company. All that said, I would like to say that he could possibly be on to something and may have a few projects up his sleeve. If Tim wants to share these, why not. If he started a thread here I can see why people would want to question anything that he discusses or links to on youtube. For those that are unable to do field research, are unwilling or not comfortable doing it, I can see what the fascination would be especially if they are not woods-wise. Personally, I can tire pretty quickly of watching documentation of others' simple walks in the woods (I'd rather be out doing my own). However, even if that is all that is eventually produced, many will enjoy the journey.

It's not the paddle that is bending.. he's probably holding it by the very end with one hand and it's just not steady.

I send all the pics I work on, to the people who made the videos. They take them and do followup. It's up to them to post them someplace if they want to. I keep a separate file of my own, for backup in case they lose them, and for me to go back to them if I need to. Some of the pics haven't even been talked about, because of their implications. The MRP and Mongolon fiascos are great examples of why, hehe. One of the reasons is pretty clear. Location. I imagine a certain Ohio "researcher" is just drooling over those videos, and would love to find out where that place is, so he can rip off the credit for finding anything, if there's anything to find. Tim has already been followed more than once. He even videod one of the cars. He's quite aware of his situation, and wants to keep it safe. I won't speak for him, or represent anything about his work. You can email him about questions. There's a link on his YouTube site.

I don't think the paddle being used to measure something, is controversial. They were still in the boat, and Dave used it to point out stuff. Mentioning the width of the paddle was just a means to get perspective. Someone asks "where", and you've got a paddle in your hands,,,what would you do? It's just a paddle.

As far as the paddle, my uncle uses one that looks the same very long pole with a narrow paddle/oar head to manuver his john boat in the shallows.

i hope tcs finds more than footprints to put on videos just a opinion keep me updated ok..

Hey everybody,
I recently went on a night expedition with my son Josh,Bluetracker & Steimie02. Do you all remember my Mothers Day Sighting Video Clip 007? Well Steimie02 and Josh heard the apelike sounds on our expedtion last night and I never once mentioned to them personally about the sounds I heard right before my sighting. Many things happened last night and many intense momments. I have filmed what to me seems like eyeshine and flickering while something was staring at me. Right before this a loud growl noise was heard and heavy footsteps. If its not eyeshine and flickering then all I can think of is a ghost light of some kind. I am working on the videos now. Talk show is tonight ! Hope you all can tune in !

hey tcs wow very informative above reply indeed but im looking forward to seeing the new videos of your expedition but im very patient. good afternoon bill g

Look forward to the new vid. Good luck.

Always look forward to your work tcsjrbigfoot. I know I have said this many times but here it goes again... Your dedication,manhours spent doing fieldwork and video posting and most importantly your wide open lines of communication with the rest of us earns you two thumbs up in my book keep up the good work Iam optomistic it WILL pay off

Thank You! I will keep focused on my research and checking back here for help.

Keep up the good work T! As someone who's been around for awhile (nope, Im not claiming to be an expert) just be veeeeery careful with what you say. There's been a bunch of people on this forum over the years who have made wild claims, and have been taken to task for doing so. Sometimes, some folks (in my opinion anyways) go a bit overboard with the criticism, but that's to be expected when your dealing with folks who have strong feelings about this subject.
There's the thought that just because a video is posted on YouTube, it must be bogus. There's the thought that anything you say on a Sasquatch related website (yours, or someone elses) or forum (yours or someone elses) is an indication that you think whatever experience you've had is sasquatch related.
Generally, this forum is a pretty good place, and folks don't tend to go insane with criticism, but there's some folks here that have been involved in this type of field for years and years, and they've never had a sighting. So, if you show up after being involved for only a short time with a story of a sighting, naturally, they will be dubious about it.
Just do good work, be as precise as possible with everything you do, and learn form your mistakes. Actually, learn from the mistakes of others. Read the forum as much as possible, especially when folks make claims of a sighting. See, how things have transpired.
Good luck!

hey tcs good evening so whats new with ohio sasquatch field research & activity keep me posted ok