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Grazhopprr
Ok, got tired of watching people fight over this recording. Is it a coyote, an owl, a fox, or a BF. Only problem was, the tape was a mess of overlapping mush noise. So, I've spent the last 2 days, studying every second of this recording, making notes about what sounds are drowning out the real question. What animals are in the background, clicks, pops, people moving, crashing that recorder around. Then I cut out all of those noises that I could, without removing the real target. Then I spent hours, remastering it with filters, equalizations, zooming into details for the right frequencies. This is the result. Now, you can hear that "thing" in real time, clear as you can possibly get it, with the limited recorder that they used. So, listen to it all the way through. There are aspects to that creature that you didn't hear before, so clearly. Now you can debate what you think it is.

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Furious_George
Good work Grazhopprr. The time and effort you put in is appreciated here.
Noni
VERY INTERESTING! Especially with earphones!!

One thing I often wondered is why creatures such as sasquatch, (if it is one on that tape), would call out in such a way and continue it. I know animals of every facet of life make sounds of some sort to communicate. They find mates, relay warnings, ect., through sounds. Would Bigfoot be doing this as a mating call, a warning or just to find out where its family unit is (if they even live that way).

But its all speculation anyways, why would we try to determine what made such a sound and why, when we're not even sure such an animal is the one making it.

Thanks for sharing!

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bipedalist
Other than the power of the vocalization, I could easily see some similarities to fox. There is one point where I wondered about coyote too but not in total like fox. Nice work on the clean-up job.
Dantallus
My first inclination was a fox as well, but after listening to dozens of fox recordings covering several species I'm no longer so sure that's what it is. I'll keep digging.
nightwing
First, nice job! If I ever need some assistance in that area(and it's likely!), I'll remember to ask for it:)
In a couple of places in the remastered recording, you can hear what appears to be the "yip-yip" of coyote. We hear coyote sounds of all kinds, and while I cannot recall hearing the cut off howls demonstrated here, the "ramp up" sound I mention I hear a lot!
Later on, I'll try and seperate out what I mean for demo purposes.
With this, and of course, the previous discussion of seeing coyotes make this sound, it's pretty clear what it is.
Excellent work on the sounds, again!
Ace!
Thanks!
bipedalist
Dantallus, apparently the Chehalis call was among several of those other alleged BF calls debunked by T. Steenburg et al. because they actually witnessed a coyote making similar sounds to the recording, so, it is NOT fox, that doesn't mean it doesn't sound a little foxy. Forgot Chehalis was included in that analysis too even after posting a bump on that thread not long ago just to remind people that some of those calls had been debunked. Hard to keep up with all this stuff when you are just an amateur!
Dantallus
Yes, it does tend to get away from you lol. Thanks for clearing that up Bip new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif
bipedalist
Here's one of the references on that : http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=307993
t.steenburg
I have to say Grazhopprr, You did a great job cleaning out that audio. I think it's clearer than the day I saw it.

Thomas Steenburg
Grazhopprr
Now, to add more grist to the mill, I'd like someone to post similar sounds, that they say are the reason why they think this is a coyote, or other animal. Personally, I'm still in question. After some of the initial whoop ramp up sounds, there is an ah ah ah chimp sound. This makes me wonder. And the resonance behind the sound, the power being put out, seems to be less a coyote, who's resonance is sharp, and not round and full like this one. Like comparing a clarinet, to a saxophone. They can hit the same notes, but the resonance is clearly different. There are also incidences of rising into falsetto at the peak of pitch. Coyotes don't go into falsetto, because their range covers that pitch and higher. Someone put a file in here, that matches this one, and convince me. I'm not hard to convince, when I've got plenty of programs to make sure of it. Just because someone has seen a coyote, in the field, make sounds "similar" to this recording, doesn't mean that what you heard there, translates to what is recorded here. I've heard plenty of examples in music, and sounds are extremely complicated. We can be fooled, either way. Who knows, maybe BF likes that sound, and sings it like someone does while vacuuming the living room. Maybe BF imitates other animals for the love of it. Maybe this,,,,,,,maybe that. Put the proof of it, here, with sound files.
Xskeptic
Hi grazhopprr, I downloaded the original (I think) track and listened to it and thought I heard a dog barking which I don't hear in your version. So I cleaned out the background noise of the original and can now hear the dog clearly. Unless I have the wrong audio. Did you cut that out. The reason I ask if you listen to the dog yelp about 3/4 through it, it sounds like a distress yelp and after this the dog is pretty quiet. Wonder what happened?

I have included a section of the dog yelp and also the whole track cleaned up so the dog can be heard.

Let me know what ya think sir.

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Grazhopprr
Yeah, I cut out the distractions of dog yelps, recorder noise from moving it around, etc. Just wanted to concentrate on the sounds that "thing" was making. Everything else was just distracting mush.
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