On the evening of 3-25-07 this recording was made while conducting a call broadcasting experiment in SE Louisiana. We had two broadcasting teams seperated by a half mile in distance, and situated near a river. And yes, this location is remote and will not be revealed here because we still research there from time to time. My memory is now a bit fuzzy as to the exact time we arrived at this location, but seem to remember it being around midnight when the responses occured. I will have to check the tape from my camcorder which should have a time stamp on it. One team was blasting screams and other howls. We had three people at each caller location and my location was playing the howls. The other team had just played a scream when the response occured. All people present were TBRC members at the time, now all but one are independent researchers, and contributing to the Texlaresearch.com website.

Here is the recording. I'm having to upload the recording as an MP3 because of its length. The whooping and howling is very reminiscent of coyote yips and the like, but if you listen to this closely you may hear something else. The more interesting human female-like screams happen twice near the end of the recording.

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SY.

Very interesting.

It is funny because the vocalizations sound like the first two thirds of a male barred owl call and then obviously tail off in the last third into something much more human sounding the way the sound drops off or increases in intensity. They also elicit the typical barred owl response which is convergent on what I am noticing also. I think this may be typical of many alleged Bigfoot sound recordings in that they tend to elicit follow-up coyote and/or barred owl responses. Somehow I don't think that is an accident and it may be more like a chicken or egg thingy.

Is there a dog barking in there? What are those short, deeper vocals? 2:05 and 2:29 are examples of what I'm referring to.

I was thinking owl when I heard the calls at the end. I know they can sound pretty close to this , but, they typically have trail off of hoots, perhaps not allways, but most of the time. After having the opportunity to listen to the recording, it seemed to have a deeper quality to them and very human like. In the direction of those calls, to the best of our knowlege their were no campsites or trails. to my ear they originated from about 100 to 150 yards away and was recorded on my parabolic setup.

I dont know what the deeper vocals are at the begining of the response, without saying squatch, I would have to go with a large canine.

I will have to go check those times to see what you are talking about Elusive ape.

SY.

Nice recording, 'southernyahoo'; so much like so many others that have come to light over the past several years that there can be no question (in my mind, at least) as to their probable authenticity. Some day enough folks who have actually spent time in the (not even necessarily deep) woods will finally have to agree on what makes these sounds because they sound pretty much the same everywhere you go. If you have personally heard the same damned sounds time and again in situ as I and a few of my friends have, you finally begin to realize it doesn't matter what anyone else has to say about it, it's bloody well real and squatchy is bloody well there.

Uh huh, there sure must be a ton o' them ol' hoaxers just a lurkin' in the woods just about everywhere you look! Oh, and they must have all taken the same type of vocalization lessons in their Sasquatch hoaxing classes. Ya, that's it... that's the ticket...

I think it is the male barred owl call and maybe the mating call, where they oftentimes will not followup with hoots. Check out the ornithology thread or Cornell site though because it has been awhile since I reviewed that information. The first evening I heard the distinct lack of hoots associated with barred owls it was both pretty freaky and pretty enlightening all at the same time. It WILL creep you out the first time. Are some of the lower verbs maybe human cross talk or walkie talkie chatter?

True, I forgot about barred owls' distinctive "barks"

I believe at those times you are hearing a type of frog, loud suckers aren't they? some of the volume is due to the sound amplification.


SY.

Geesh, those are some loud frogs!

I've heard screamy noises like that before...don't know what it was but it was late at night, close and I was in a tent by myself. I was wide awake and grabbing for my 9...

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I tried to clean up most of it.

Great job cleaning up that file GrZHpR, if you could PM me and tell me how you worked on that I'd appreciate it. Such as type of software, type of edits?

SY, in reponse to your post on the MRP thread about the TBRC using this scream...I put it on my (KH) call blaster along with a ton of other possible vocals and orang/gorilla/gibbon sounds for a trip to Washington. You never know what you might need in the field.
I was not on the trip on MonsterQuest and the TBRC wanted to use my blaster, and I believe Rick Noll was the one operating my blaster as shown on TV, so he likely didn't know what it was or where it came from.
Might be Sas, might be barred owl, might be human, might be alien.
IMO, the TBRC's official stance is that no audio can definetly be attributed to a sasquatch and used as evidence of sasquatch existence to the scientific community, whether or not the audio really is from a BF. Just like how most think the Ohio howl is real, but that hasn't convinced anyone.
Whether or not it might be useful in investigations is another story.
IMO, I don't know what it is u recorded.
So that wasn't played on Monsterquest because the TBRC thought it was from a sasquatch, it was played because Rick Noll played it for the cameras.
But I do still try it.

Oh I figured as much , and I knew it was your blaster, thing is "you thought it might be usefull" a TBRC member, and it has been demonstrated that the TBRC still call blasts, and I presume still records audio, but for what purpose if this statement is true.



Do you see the contradiction here? It's either done to collect evidence, or it's not, no two ways about it. You know I have statements from the BOD that they do regard audio as evidence. Yet when someone else records something it's useless?

Total arrogance, to insinuate that no one outside the TBRC can either avoid being hoaxed or interpret for themselves what the significance of any piece of evidence is, particularly in the absence of any defined parameters. Atleast "Some people" are gathering possible evidence and presenting it for science to evaluate. You want the respect of science, give them something to evaluate, and I'm not just talking about sounds here.

The proper approach to presented evidence is to ask questions and get someone else on location to verify this activity. This is how the TBRC treats it's sighting reports. Has any one made the same effort towards this evidence? I haven't heard of any effort on the part of the TBRC to "affirm" the MRP, only a low down and dirty attempt to discredit. You know that there are numerous sightings in the TBRC data base that could be discredited in the same way. Who's to say some one was'nt running around in a suit? Just as possible, if not easier than, sneaking around researchers in the dark making sounds.

You get the picture. Unsupported claims....how about objective evidence with no claims...........works for me.

SY.

Thanks for your willingness to share those.

Interesting vocals... I am assuming you had a way to communicate with each group before conducting a call blast, to ensure what was being recorded was not an actual call blast from the group?

Bip,,,,,the program is called Audacity. It's a free program downloadable. Just google it. It has several enhancement tools.

Yes, phone communication and radio was used, though sketchy at times. and all researchers were familiar with the vocals used. The broadcasts were planned so as to help avoid confusion. Once a bearing is noted from the other call location, it helps avoid any confusion as well. The response calls were not from the other broadcast location.

SY.

Thank you for clarifying...

With the human like vocals, I don't know what that was...i had my dog take a listen to the sounds and she was a bit freaked out. She actually got scared. With the dogs barking in the background, those might have been either wild dogs or coyotes. I've heard that type of barking at my trailer park in the distance and way after dark. Interesting though..

Yes there is a few muffled sounds of one or more of us talking/whispering just before the response occurs, but we weren't on the radio at the time.

SY.

I just thought I'd post a little comparison to gibbon vocals I did a while back on this recording. I used a small segment from the 1:08 to 1:10 mark in it.

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This sound file has the short segment from the recording first, then the gibbon calls. It shouldn't be surprising how easy people could get fooled by a primate out there, or perhaps a coyote

Here's the spectrogram on it.

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SY.

I'm posting another recording here so as not to derail the MRP recordings thread. The following recording was made Aug 4 2006 on an access road for the Richland Chambers Resevoir WMA in central east Texas. We were cold prospecting for a place to drop in on and see what we might encounter or record since there is a published sighting in the area. Upon arriving at this location at around 9:30 pm and exiting the vehicles, we heard a number of howling vocals eminating from several different directions in the nearby woods. Those vocals were not accompanied by any type canine barking or yipping and we didn't manage to record those vocals as we were caught off gaurd by them but hurried to set up the recording equipment and recorded this set of vocals about fifteen minutes later.

In this recording you will hear a vocal that sounds like whooooooo in an arcing pitch and then a canine chimes in behind it barking and then makes a howl as if in response to the first call. In my opinion, and many I've shared this recording with, the first call is very much like a human and the quality is much like the begining of a classic whoop but trails off differently.

There were no other indicatons that there was any human activity within a half mile of this location for the following several hours we were there.

Just another of my humanlike vocals from the field

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I spend a good amount of time in the outdoors fishing, working on the farm and many times late at night and early morning. The coyote vocal are typical of what I’ve heard at times. The other barred owl sounds similar to what I heard also, I have heard, a few times a barred owl vocal that turns into a dog barking.

I asked about this on this form and had many responses and was given some examples that barred owls do make a barking vocal like a dog. I don’t recall hearing both coyotes and barred owls close together like this recording.

I’ve been checking cows at night and did not think a coyote was no where near, a siren would be heard in the distance and I found that I was surrounded by coyotes as they responded to the siren.

SY - thanks for sharing these. I was a bit confused with the first recording because I'm not sure which are you guys and which are the responses, but that second recording is human like and similar to others I've heard collected by sas researchers.

For some reason they put a chill through me - it's not that they're that frightening (esp compared to some of the "screams" out there), it's more the fact that even if they're not a sas, what sort of bloke is out wandering the woods, in the dark, howling. Probably not the sort of person I want to come bump into...

Shame you couldn't post this in the MRP thread - this is exactly the sort of thing that should be being posted in there...

I trust a dog's instincts. They have no bias in the debate. If they are frightened by something, it is usually for a good reason.

IMO it's more the case that anything that "could be" something else is useless to us. We've got to have stuff that's 100% unlikely to be anything else. For instance, your lawyer should be able to get you off a murder charge if the ONLY evidence against you was a witness description of a car that was the same color and model year as yours... the factory made a few thousand others, so with no other link, there's a chunk of reasonable doubt there.. Even if there were only 50 in that color, that's still reasonable doubt, if there were only 2, and the other guy has a good alibi your man can't break, then you've run out of reasonable doubt. So for real stand up evidence, we need stuff that you can prove impossible to be anything else...

So with calls, it comes to ruling everything else impossible, if it's slightly possible it's a coyote, barred owl, corvid mimic, escaped parrot, another guy with a tape the opposite side of the valley etc etc etc, then sorry, it's interesting to us, but ain't gonna stand anyone putting their skepticals on.

When someone in bigfootery rattles of a list of could be, could be, could be... it's not necessarily that they're just trying to be a meaniehead, it's more likely a stepping outside of the BF clique reminder of how the other 99% of the population are going to see it. Not really a "reality check" more of a "publically percieved reality" check. Your reality is not necessarily compatible with mainstream "acceptable reality". But don't sweat that too much, in my experience 80% of the "general public" still evaluate the world with a gut feeling mixture of superstition and ancient greek class natural science theory... their idea of physics is non-newtonian, not because they're past it, but because they haven't got there yet.


Flash.

I can appreciate the perspective Flash, I ofcoarse understand the limits of vocalizations as evidence. My main objective is to demonstrate what can be heard and recorded out there, and this will lend some insight into our perception of sounds and how we identify things without seeing them.

SY

I know this sort of thing isn't going to convince anyone, but i don't really expect it to.

So what's the point of trying to document anything then? The only 100% is going to be a body, so by your reasoning anything apart from that is a waste of time?

Surely collecting and documenting this sort of "evidence" complete with caveats of interpretation etc are all part of the process of building up the book to support the eventual body?

Southernyahoo, you might consider using the confirmed Bigfoot vocalization recorded by a police department in the 70s that's been dsicussed of late...but be warned, given it's context, it's an "angry" vocalization and may stir up your "locals"...

Hey Forest guy,

In the first recording, you may hear a couple of us whispering just before the first set of howls begins, other than those sounds, the rest are believed to be wild mammal sounds native to the area.

SY.

LoL.... ok. I'll bite. What vocalization is that?

By the way SY, you've got some very interesting recordings. In light of everything else, THANKS for your willingness to share them.

The one being discussed here:

http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?sho...mp;#entry565641

Recorded by a Lummi indian police officer called to the scene of a "burglary" on the reservation.

It has all the elements required to establish authenticity:

1) Police witness and an official report.

2) Creature IN VIEW screaming.

3) Contemporary recording OF the scream on official police recorders.

Thanks GII, I have a couple more.

Cool - thanks for clarifying for me SY.

Cheers,
FG

We tried playing many different sounds for BF and some are down right human sounding. Take this Hoot Owl sound Click to view attachment and listen to the human characteristics in it. It really stirs up the canines.

Lately there have been two different Owls hanging around the area here and I have not identified one as of yet. The other night what I think an Elk that got hit by a car was making a blood curdling sound that made the hair stand up on your neck. It was over 1/2 mile away and when I got down there to get a good recording it stopped. Never heard anything like it before.

The more I get out and study the woods and the sounds out there the more questions arise.

Great recording and very interesting...makes you wonder it was.

wow willie, that does sound human in some parts, kinda eerie........

The only way to tell what really made the sound is to actually see it or do what southernyahoo did and preform an spectrum display of it to see the actually frequencies involved. If BF is the master of mimicry then the size if his vocal box will show up this way. I think that's right....

whoops...wrong thread...

Here's a couple more recordings that were made during one of our field outings here in East Texas. Both of these recordings were obtained on the same night by the same recorder. In this first recording you hear three broadcasted calls of the (Ohio Howl credit Matt Moneymaker) and then two response calls with what seems to be simultaneous knocking.

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The following recording occurs around 4 and a half hours later and after we had turned in for the night. These are being described as whoops and are tentatively unidentified. There are three whoops in this file at the beginning and then a distant pack of coyotes at the end. The first whoop has a dual tone quality @22 sec. that I've never heard in any animal recording and the following two are much more like what a human could make.

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This is an analysis done on these recordings by Dr. Joe Fox of Texas A&M University. While he doesn't identify the sound maker, he does characterize these sounds to knowns. It is interesting that he says the whoops are similar to human. It should be noted that Dr. Fox was sent shorter clips of these recordings to avoid confusion about which sounds were suspect.

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On the Ohio response, just before the second vocal there is a little double "cuckoo" type call, then at the end of the vocal a whistle type noise. This same whistle type call is heard decelerating at other points in this recording too. What are the clicks, pops and cracks all about in the recording?

I like the way the second recording gravitates into what sounds like hyena calls near the end.

I think there is some night birds there doing the whistling. The clicks ,pops, and cracks could be flying insects hitting the mic from time to time, it would be my best guess as there were no imediate foot steps/rustling during this part of the recording, though there was an interesting visit to this recorder later at around 3:30 am.

Again, on this other recording, what are the clicks and raps heard at 21 to 23 seconds before a faint call number one? Reason I ask so many questions about these repetitive sounds is that they happen close to other vocals. And, this is a characteristic of some of my research that I am picking up on with respect to sound recording. Too much of a coincidence unless you have good explanations for them. I have no explanations for them in my own research. Just an FYI, probably nothing profound, but I have confirmed these sounds listening to the recordings of others that thought they were in the neighborhood with our hairy friend concurrent with other sound events and vocals that were primary.

In that recording at that time it was was our foot steps on packed rocky substrate near the recorder which was a parabolic dish mounted on a tripod, and being maned by myself. It's impossible using that sort of equipment to avoid recording yourself unless you are standing on soft powder dirt.

SY.