I spent the first year or so since my encounter thinking about ways to get evidence, however now i realize that there really is no point in recording his sounds, or picking up any more of his hairs, or even casting any more of his footprints. The media has spun this Sasquatch phenomenon story far in to the lunatic fringe, now a real creature is put along with ufos, chupacabras, demons, sea monsters etc....,etc.... In the average persons mind, bigfoot is not a real animal, they have been convinced by media stories like the biscardi hoax and it will take much more than hair, or clearly recorded sounds, footprints, or even clear video footage to change their minds'. Have any of the "monumental" discoveries of Sasquatch by diligent field researchers ever done anyhting at all to convince the masses? In the skeptic mind even the greatest of Sasquatch evidence can be thrown away easily;

Patterson-gimlin video- obviously a hoax, that B. Heironimus guy admitted to it, case solved
Freeman footage - blurry video, looks pretty fake
manitoba video - could be a guy in a suit
redwoods video - what is that, a penis heeheehee. thats obviously must be fake
snowalker video - could be a man in a suit.
jacobs photo - the game dpt. says its a bear. case closed

etc... etc... etc...

not to count all of the other blobsqautch pictures, hundreds and hundreds of first hand sightings.

obviously it is going to take a whole lot more evidence to convince people, the only way is gonna be with a body that scientists can examine.
I am waiting on over 10,000$ worth of equipment/supplies to arrive, and even though i know its a very remote possibility that i will be able to catch him, im going to try.

Welcome to the club Hoggindaz!!

Good luck with your efforts. Would you like to disclose what equipment you are acquiring? That is quite a chunk of change to plop down on this. I am impressed!

Yes, I too am curious about the gear...In all actuallity, the only gear you need is a good rifle some steel b*lls and time to spend in the woods!

I got the rifle!

A buddy of mine that has seen them here in Florida on several different occasions said to me that all you need is a canoe and a rifle.

He said twice he saw them by canoeing in the dead of night on a small river in the middle of the state, no lights, just stealth. He surprised them down at the water, drinking, swimming, whatever. They ran back up into the woods when they saw him, but he said he could have shot them if he had a rifle with him. He doesn't want to kill one.

So, there you go. You need titanium b*lls to do stuff like that.

$10K in equipment and another chance encounter. Unless you are seeing one on a regular basis all the equipment in the world wont do it. I am curious though if you are finding evidence on a regular basis it or they may be staying in that area and you are willing to put some coin into tracking and finding him you may increase your odds, striking while the iron is hot so to speak. I look forward to reading your reports.

just let the evidence do the talking .........theres been enough talk and boasting in this field....just give me exhibit A
also this is not an attack on the poster or any of you here ....I admire 98% of you ....and I'm jealous of the souls that live near the hot zones ...peace

I have to admire that buddy or yours Robert, I wouldn't be caught dead in a canoe at dark in a zone with gators, etc especially. Yep the titanium b@@@@ analogy works for me.
That said, it does seem like a valuable way to either get the evidence or provide the state with more death certificate fodder.

Conjures up an interesting mental image of shooting a very big gun from a very small canoe...

If done, how do you extract the body (and yourself!!) from the situation?

Inflatable bags! just tie on body, inflate and float it out!

Yes. Bring an inflatable raft and some rope. As far as shooting a large caliber rifle from a canoe, I wouldn't want to try it. Newton's third law would go into effect there.

This same guy had a face to face confrontation with one over some frying sausages. They had a one minute staring contest, eyes, gun, sausage, eyes, gun, sausage, then it finally backed off because he had a Ruger Mark II .22 in his hand pointed right at it. This was in the Everglades, back in 1955.

He got a good long look. He says it looked more like a man than an ape. Big wide nostrils and big square teeth, covered with short brown hair. He always tells me that it looked a lot like the Minnesota Iceman, but the eyes looked human and very intelligent.

Hoggindaz, if you've ordered a game cam, ask for your money back, unles your ok with pics of deer. seems that all the pics of game shot with these things are looking straight at the camera. they can see, hear, or smell em. apart from the Jacobs pic, nobody has got a clear pic of Uncle Booger with a game cam. but heck...i hope i'm wrong and your the first to post a pic of the big guy on this site with all the equiptment youve bought (and i cant afford)!!

Megatarsal

On that note: I just got the ARCHOS 5 that I ordered, the cam is still on its way, but so far the Archos itself is awesome. I have 152 free gigs for video and or audio storage! the battery lasts 12 hrs for audio and so far 8 on video. I put on several BF movies plus music and photos and STILL have 144 gigs left. Once the helmet ca gets here I can mount it anywhere, helmet, rear view mirror because its only 1X1X1. Maybe while we are driving I will get the elusive bugger crossing the trail!!!!

helmet cam? now were talking! actually i forgot the trail cam video of the bow hunter fella (a still of which i have as my phone background pic). i did some photoshop work on it a while back to bring out the detail. he's got huge arms and shoulders. FLIR would be a useful purchase too. failing that, buy a gorrila suit (there was one on ebay from Georgia not long ago!!) rub some rotten meat all over you and go for a walk in the woods at night. habituation in reverse! There was a wildlife tv presenter who made a steel frame croc suit and crawled right up to those scaley critters. but crocs are dumb.

Megatarsal

Thats the "real" threat to us, some idjot out in the woods in a costume! I thought about Epic cam, thats the hunting one! I read the reviews and its not the greatest. At 150.00 you'd be better off spending the extra bucks on a vid cam. But I have so far 450 in my Archos/cam but then again I have a hotspot where constant vigilence is best! Whats better then vid cam on your head, so that whatever you look at so does cam! You don't have to worry about adrenilin (sp) getting the best of you or worse yet, not getting the cam on fast enough! Mine will be alwys on while out in the wilds thus not missing a beat. Plus by recording whatever your looking at gives you the ability to go back and look again!..

We'll be heading out this weekend for some woods time, so I'll have an good chance to work this archos!

Oh, FLIR is expensive about 10 G per handheld and a good bit more for a good Raytheon night site

I want to see a picture of you wearing this thing. I have never seen one, so in my mind's eye it looks like an enormous hard hat (like 12 inches high) with a telescopic lens sticking out the front.

No, actually the cam is only 1 inch X 1 inch X 1inch and it fits in a headband OR on a helmet depending on the mount that you have. I will at first have the headband type.

Look up ARCHOS helmet cam

quote name='Searcher67'...Thats the "real" threat to us, some idjot out in the woods in a costume!

you got a point there, but apart from the lack of a hairy suit, thats what Bipedalist did. dressed in black looking like a stump acting as ape bait! hope you get some results with your new camera. post some pics if you can. also, a head cam doesnt look like a gun as a camera raised to the face would do so maybe you'll get a result.

Megatarsal

I have an actual Ghillie suit and by actual I mean handmade. There are times that I am leary of using it because with it on I look like a big hairy beast!

I just looked at one for sale at Amazon. It was just the camcorder unit, not the helmet.

So, how do you attach it to a helmet, and what kind of a helmet are you planning to wear? A pith helmet? Football helmet? Deep sea diver helmet?

hope this works....

http://www.popularairsoft.com/files/images/DSCF3719.JPG

the helmet would be a good idea given the application!

the camera has velcro fitted to it, so its position can be adjusted easily. dont think this is the same unit as Searcher67's though

Megatarsal

ok, i just received some stuff so i will update what i get as i get it, and i am supposed to get everything before two weeks.

I spent over 1200 total on a palmer cap-chur Extra long range projector and everything that goes with it, i got it today and i can say it is excellent, its has a really nice feeling wooden stock and handle grip. I am gonna rip my prized burris 6.5-20x50 scope from my 30.06, and try to get that on it somehow. The rifle itself is .50 cal, and fired by 22 cal cartridges, i tried it out with the practice darts, and accurate range is about 75 yards, which will probably improve once i mount the scope to about 100 yards. The darts themselves are 10cc with a 1.25 inch barbed needle tip, also they have exploding caps in the rear of the dart which once fired on contact with the target, push all of the tranquilizer liquid in to the target instantly. They look really nasty, and i am seriously rethinking how i am gonna try this whole thing out, because i know i would be mad as hell if someone shot me with one of these things.

ravenmadd, im not sure exactly what you are trying to say but, i can say that all of the Sasquatch searching organization and all the man-hours and lives spent searching for it like rene dahinden, grover krantz etc... could have been over if anyone of the hundreds if not many thousands who seen it up close had been prepared and had shot it. i am not against people shooting it, people die everday and it will take a body to conclusively prove Sasquatches existence, by doing so it will save the entire (very endangered) species from extinction, its just that after seeing it, i know i wouldnt be able to kill it, so i am trying the next best thing. I am not trying to convince you personally, maybe you may be swayed by one picture, but if you(or anyone for that matter) dont/doesn't believe in Sasquatch from the vast body of evidence available including firsthand encounters like i had and thousands of other people have, then i really question whether another blobsquatch picture or even some clear video better than the patterson-gimlin will really change your mind?

a picture is worth a thousand words, but a specimen is worth a thousand pictures.

I had the same idea about a " hemet Camera ". I am a skydiver and the majority of jumpers wear cameras. They are very small and have great resolution ( in the bright blue sky ) I believe the idea is a good one! but unless the big guy is real close it will only yeild another fuzzy picture. Don't get me wrong I like the idea and may try it some day. In freefall if you get even a little separation and you look a the colors on the jumpsuit - vs- details like their face. The skeptics will need to see details. Good luck out there. I hope BF jumps out in front of you and is close enough to fog your lens.


Bob

Didn't someone that posts here use a helmet cam in one of the TV documentaries that was filmed? Seems the person was riding down a trail on a bicycle. I can't remember who it was though.

In Autumn Williams documentary they preview a digital recorder/helmet cam rig that will be used more in Volume 2 (which hasn't been released yet).

I don't remember a bicycle though.

OregonBigfoot

EDIT:
It's the Deja View system. This came out a few years ago and seems far too low in resolution and data capture time to be useful, but it's a great concept.

Amazon: Deja View

Rick Noll had a camera rig attached to a mountain bike. The image of him in those shorts is still burned in my retinas.

Thanks for bringing that image to mind again...

Hoggindaz-

Keep in mind that those small digital video cameras are also sensitive to IR light; in other words, if you want to use it at night, you may only need an illuminator. It might be handy to have one in your pocket, and when the shite hits the fan you can turn it on to make sure you get some good video of the bugger ripping your arms off while the drugs take effect...
Seriously, you can use most digital imagers (CCD or CMOS) as night vision devices.
Good luck to you, your ambition may just help you hit the jackpot.

i gotta agree with you there Hoggindaz, i can talk as tough as the next guy in here but when it comes down to the tires hitting the road...i'm pretty sure i couldn't shoot one either. people can talk science all they want, but at the end of the day, whats going to make someone shoot and kill one of these creatures is money and possibly fame. i dont care what anyone says, those two enticements are the ones that get **** done unfortunately.




nice.

cheers

I do have a very potent IR device, so when the sun goes down I am going to give it a try and will let you all know...

OK Yes it does work, but the image is still fuzzy, When the sun is down I will give it a try outside and see what kind of distance I can get out of it.

You don't have stray dogs in minnesota? If 10cc can't bring down a large dog, how can you expect to tranq a BF?

Do you think it's possible to reload a fire again in 5 seconds? From what I hear when they want to move, they can hustle.


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Mount the tranq gun on a 10 gauge slug pump shotgun,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,just in case.

At 40 mph, closing at less than about 300 yards, no! Maybe on open ground, in forest......you are toast!

Yeah well better take some jam and butter with you then.

I would want to make damned sure that thing was affected pretty quickly before pissing it off. If that drug didnt kick in fast enough, it could pulverize you, then wake up and eat you.

Get summa that james bond star trekky stuff that works in 1 second.

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Please put a camera behind you, filming the whole thing. Would make a nice viral video of Bf ripping you up like a barbie doll.

update: finally today i received the big pappa in terms of money, the tranquilizer medication, a 25ml vial of "Immobilon" Etorphine-HCL/Acepromazine. I had to pony up 6gs to get a hold of this stuff due to the legality of the substance and the "unorthodox" way one must go about in getting a hold of the aforementioned substance, anyway this stuff is powerful enough to put down anything that moves, 2.5 ml can put down an elephant in under 240 seconds, also primates are very susceptible to anaesthesia compared to oither animals, i am going to measure it out at 3x the strength needed to take down an adult male lowland gorilla which i have read ranges from 0.0025mg/kg - 0.005mg/kg of body weight. so yes my 10cc darts are easily going to be enough. The scary part is that you absolutely have to wear gloves and protective gear and be very careful when handling this substance as even one drop spilled on human skin is lethal.

Hi

Be Careful ~ Good Luck ~ Happy Hunting

Peace
Tim

First let me say, I really hope all the talk about killing one is just for fun.. I hate to think just to quench our curiosity someone would kill A animal or part human or what ever it is..

They have lived all these years not really bothering us.. yes they try to scare us out of their domain.

For that matter I have no trespassing signs on my property and if you come messing around you will be met with first a warning then the real deal. So far as we know thats all they have done to us protect what they consider theirs..





Does anyone know it they have used any type of smell camouflage on the GAME CAMS.. Like that stinky fish bait or something strong like that. Plus the flash, if it is flashing at everything that crawls around its a giveaway its a cam. I mean I know most people think it will try sneaking up on the camera from underneath. But a well placed camera 7-8' up pointing straight out would catch anything crossing in front or sniffing it. Next it needs to look like a tree limb, maybe inside a dead limb attached to a tree? I think they have seen enough of these things now attached to trees they know what they are just by looking.








The other part is it has 240 seconds to reach you and possibly tear you a part.. Then what? It wakes up later and you don't. That dart could really piss it off.

yeah what you look at so does the cam.. OR When your moving away turn it around if its behind you or to the side if it is on the side. You might get some awesome video.

made a big adjustment i wasnt really happy with the range of the tranq gun even after i added , bought a m tech 175lb pull jaguar crossbow w/ 20 bolts, set me back another 200, and spent the last two days fitting the darts on to the end of the crossbow. i eventually got them on by sawing the arrowheads off of the bolts and then drilling in to the titanium shafts. i thought it was going to crack but they are titanium/carbon fiber and i am impressed at the light weight and durability. After that i just kept moving up drill bits until the back part of the tranq dart where the feathers go fit inside, after i just poured in superglue and pushed it in, waited 5 minutes then wrapped the end with about a foot of ducttape. i tried it out and it worked perfectly until about the 12-13th shot and it broke off. the range is much better and it has excellent accuracy.

Nuts

Man be careful with that stuff, and be sure of your target before plugging it.

Hi

Could you snap a few pictures of the new set up ? I can see using super glue the stuff works wonders and is Strong in the right application, But the duct tape crosses over the line of good old time craftsman ship and into the quick fix handy man with a rubber band category

Peace
Tim

OK, Lets say for sh*ts and giggles you actually get one in sight of your tranq. gun.. What next? I mean what is your protocol? You take the shot and its down, what next?

Do you even know how to use Etorphine with Acepromazine? If so what is the procedure?

What caliber are the darts and what size shaft are you using in the crozzbow?

Things here just don't make sense, attaching the darts to the arrow shafts is difficult to say the least, much less as to what happens when the energy in the Xbow is released and transferred to the dart itself.. What is the weight of the dart full of meds? Can't weight more than a 125gr. broadhead or else that bolt will go wild.

Even getting your hands on such a med (that is only used in Europe and Africa would be more than difficult here in the states!

I just don't get what I am smelling here!

And your actually missing one major point, I am not saying what it is here, I want you to tell me. But you are missing a VERY important part! One that is detrimental to your challenge!

What kind of range are you talking about?

Two things:
First, you might kill it, which undoes all your hard work trying to capture it.
Second, what if the bolt goes all the way through and lodges with the point sticking out, possibly squirting all your expensive Rufees onto the ground, leaving you with a pissed off animal at close range and NO POSSIBLE WAY to reload another shot in time.

Can you post a picture of one of your bolts with the modded tip? I'm very curious to see what it looks like.

You can't rely on the darts working properly when you are applying a much greater force to them than they were designed.

Be careful.

This just sounds far fetched. I mean, IF you happin to see one, and IF your'e close enough to get a shot off, and IF your'e fast enough to shoot, and IF you hit your target, how do you know how much tranq to use? My understanding of this, is, it's based on body wieght/mass. Too much would most likely put it into cardiac arrest, not enough.... well I wouldn't want to be the one.
Plus what are your'e plans to do with it if it succeeds?

"The scary part is that you absolutely have to wear gloves and protective gear and be very careful when handling this substance as even one drop spilled on human skin is lethal."

I did some checking on this statement as well and it IS NOT the case. one drop is NOT lethal. Right now I cannot find the info that I am looking for but I do not think that absorption would result in as much affect as intramuscular injection.

But there is an antidote used for human incapacitation due to this drug.

Did you know that even having this medication can result in a million + dollar fine? In fact there is a fine for using/having this drug in many country's. It is used mainly in Africa and Europe only! and is meant for Bull elephants from what I have learned thus far. The probability of getting this drug into the US is all about NIL! There would have to be a serious connection goin on, but anything is possible I guess!



I can't wait to get some more information from Hoggindaz concerning this.

Is anyone actually buying this load of crap?

Evidently, yes.

Or, I should say, plenty of forum members being VERY generous and/or patient.