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Kokanee
Here is an excerpt of my quote and his reply,....

No human in the world could be as tall or as massively built,...I say the creatures height to be at least 10 to 12ft.
Unless these photos are doctored then I would have to say this is very real

support support
0 Zero doctoring , I stood a the foot of that stump
and its not a small stump.
and over 2 years all the sluff has fallen off.
When folks see the full Doc, I think they will be very moved.
Its a sad story really of something tragic happening to 2 very careing and easy goin people
they would give you the shirt off thier back.
Not any more!


I wasn't expecting an e-mail from this individual. I replied back to him. I have'nt received a reply back as of today
Re: support
I can't wait to watch the documentary!,..When does it premier and what TV Channel?
I really do believe your story and I think the Bigfoot community as a whole has been burned by too many hoaxes and cover ups over the years. I think your story will bring some much needed credibility to this phenomenon because you and I know these creatures exsist. I mean really,..You can't call every witness a liar and a hoaxer!
Have you been in touch with any Bigfoot organizations? BTW stay away from Tom Biscardi,...All indications are that he's nothing more than a fraud!

Steve

All indications are there was a coverup by Canadian and US officials. Ben has apparently dissapeared without a trace and the original video footage remains hostage by some Government agency.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-_H8nbCUYg...feature=channel
billgreen2005bigfoot
hey everyone wowww this awesome new documentary about sasquatch. when is comeing out on dvd . keep me posted please... thanks bill smile.gif iagree.gif new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif
Kokanee
QUOTE(billgreen2005bigfoot @ May 15 2009, 01:35 PM) *
hey everyone wowww this awesome new documentary about sasquatch. when is comeing out on dvd . keep me posted please... thanks bill smile.gif iagree.gif new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif

The release date of this Documentry is sometime this month.
billgreen2005bigfoot
QUOTE(Kokanee @ May 15 2009, 08:43 PM) *
The release date of this Documentry is sometime this month.

hey kokanee is this new sasquatch documentary dvd on amazon.com or other online stores yet. keep us posted ok. thanks bill thumbup.gif
Furious_George
Busted by leemajors August 16th 2008, 7:32 PM post #508.
http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?sho...gami&st=495

It might have been proven to be a costume elsewhere first, but this is where I found out.
NWSquatcher
QUOTE(Furious_George @ May 15 2009, 02:01 PM) *
Busted by leemajors August 16th 2008, 7:32 PM post #508.
http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?sho...gami&st=495

It might have been proven to be a costume elsewhere first, but this is where I found out.


I agree FG. The mask was outed by Lee Majors pretty quickly.

Kokanee, why do you believe this to be real from the youtube videos? The creepy goblin thing in one of the video's should be enough to convince you that this is a marketing ploy. Not much out there gets past the folks at BFF.

For entertainment purposes, I confess I would look forward to seeing the documentary, if the special effects are like the goblin.
Smokebender
yawn.gif It's the same as last time as far as I can see.
Kokanee
QUOTE(NWSquatcher @ May 15 2009, 03:21 PM) *
I agree FG. The mask was outed by Lee Majors pretty quickly.

Kokanee, why do you believe this to be real from the You tube videos? The creepy goblin thing in one of the video's should be enough to convince you that this is a marketing ploy. Not much out there gets past the folks at BFF.

For entertainment purposes, I confess I would look forward to seeing the documentary, if the special effects are like the goblin.

For information purposes I decided to reveal the e-mail I received from Helmsmaster, not form an opinion or make judgment whether I believe or not. There is nothing to my knowledge that this has been proven to be a fake or hoax. Maybe you should watch the documentary first and then make your judgment or conclusion.

What creepy goblin thing are you referring to exactly?
plaidlemur
QUOTE(Kokanee @ May 15 2009, 06:52 PM) *
For information purposes I decided to reveal the e-mail I received from Helmsmaster, not form an opinion or make judgment whether I believe or not. There is nothing to my knowledge that this has been proven to be a fake or hoax. Maybe you should watch the documentary first and then make your judgment or conclusion.

What creepy goblin thing are you referring to exactly?


The pictures were proven as fakes beyond a reasonable doubt--as for the story? We'll see what the movie states, and take it from there.
billgreen2005bigfoot
hey everyone is this new sasquatch documentary dvd on amazon.com or on any other online stores if yes keep me posted ok good evening bill smile.gif updates as this new situation continues iagree.gif applause.gif
Kokanee
Is anyone here even aware that in the youtube video, it stated this footage is a dramatization of the confiscated video???? and that the mask in question was used for that purpose? The real footage was given to a forestry worker and was never returned or located remember???
Robert
QUOTE(Kokanee @ May 15 2009, 08:01 PM) *
Is anyone here even aware that in the youtube video, it stated this footage is a dramatization of the confiscated video???? and that the mask in question was used for that purpose? The real footage was given to a forestry worker and was never returned or located remember???


So what? Because you tell us this story we're supposed to just believe it? Who are you?
Kokanee
QUOTE(Robert @ May 15 2009, 05:10 PM) *
So what? Because you tell us this story we're supposed to just believe it? Who are you?

If you don't have any positive or new information to bring to the table I suggest you keep your comments to yourself. This forum already has enough rhetorical comments as it is. Who I am is none of your business!
Robert
QUOTE(Kokanee @ May 15 2009, 08:18 PM) *
If you don't have any positive or new information to bring to the table I suggest you keep your comments to yourself. This forum already has enough rhetorical comments as it is. Who I am is none of your business!


Ha ha ha -- ok, ok, but it's interesting how real photographic evidence always gets 'lost' somehow. It's all just hearsay anyway. Nobody will believe the story without some kind of proof. There are hundreds of these stories.

I don't know why, maybe they are ALL true, maybe not.

Without proof it's just another story. These pictures, as well done as they are, are only a 'recreation' of the originals.

Spazmo
Does anyone know why the original footage was supposedly turned over to the authorities? I'm only asking because I don't know all of the details.
Thanks!
Dudlow
cool.gif Obviously, as the descriptive paragraph points out (although quite deliberately not in a particularly overt manner), this is merely a dramatization of supposedly 'real' events said to have occurred in October 2006. The tale has been kicking around for a while on the Internet. Gotta say the Ghillie suited monster is not particularly convincing; although I'm sure it's only supposed to 'approximate' the real thing; being a preliminary dramatization, after all.

Got to agree with 'Robert' above. I wouldn't even want to try to count the number of soon-to-be-forthcoming video and film 'proof' productions that have been promised over the years. (Yawn... I ran out of popcorn years ago....) As they say, 'Then another cow flew by.'
Dudlow

Edited to add: I should have pointed out that the purported sighting area and other locations mentioned tend to reflect the same Tri-Town corridor where the original (and now somewhat legendary) 'Yellow-Top' sasquatch sightings since the 1920s were said to have occurred. That would certainly provide a little provenance and mystical background for a modern film maker to take advantage of. In other words, the historical record would tend to support his modern day claims, just because there are reports from the area. Great for building sales if the movie ever comes out.
Kokanee
QUOTE(Robert @ May 15 2009, 05:23 PM) *
Ha ha ha -- ok, ok, but it's interesting how real photographic evidence always gets 'lost' somehow. It's all just hearsay anyway. Nobody will believe the story without some kind of proof. There are hundreds of these stories.

I don't know why, maybe they are ALL true, maybe not.

Without proof it's just another story. These pictures, as well done as they are, are only a 'recreation' of the originals.

I don't mean to come off in that manner however I grow tired of some of the antics that members display in here. I take this subject very seriously and I always give people the benefit of the doubt no matter what and how frustrating it may be.

The pictures are NOT recreations,...The video footage is. The mask in question was used for the purpose of recreating the confiscated footage. A lot of members are overlooking this fact and drawing conclusions that this story is a hoax. Let the pieces fall where they may. If it turns out to be a hoax,...Oh well, it certainly won't be the last one!

Steve

RedRatSnake
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Well thats better, Sure saves me some time thinking up a positive Peace response smile.gif


Peace
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Kokanee
QUOTE(Spazmo @ May 15 2009, 05:36 PM) *
Does anyone know why the original footage was supposedly turned over to the authorities? I'm only asking because I don't know all of the details.
Thanks!

No one knows why Ben Matine and Jim Jardineau gave the video I assume to be a video disc. To one of the local forestry worker's. That was just plain stupid on their part. Especially without making a copy of the video first.

QUOTE(billgreen2005bigfoot @ May 15 2009, 01:53 PM) *
hey kokanee is this new sasquatch documentary dvd on amazon.com or other online stores yet. keep us posted ok. thanks bill thumbup.gif

Hi Bill,...I know as much as you do. Sorry!
Dudlow
QUOTE(Kokanee @ May 16 2009, 12:52 AM) *
The pictures are NOT recreations,...The video footage is. Steve


cool.gif Hi 'Kokanee'. The reason for my doubt about the still pictures and stating that the creature looks like a man in a Ghillie suit is that -- morphologically speaking and in terms of body proportions -- the hips on the creature in the still photos appear to be too high for a BF. The hips are about where they would be on a human figure. On one of the photographs, the hips actually stick out below a drawn in waist, creating the impression that the suit/costume is bunched at the waist/hip join area. In my experience BF have a rather long torso. Sorry, it simply looks too human and too un-BF like to me.

If this sounds unreasonable to you I would suggest having a look at the various body morphology estimates and diagrams published by Fahrenbach, Meldrum, Bindernagel and Krantz which also tend to reflect my own limited observations. That's why the still photos scream man-in-a-suit to me; but that's just me.
Dudlow
billgreen2005bigfoot
QUOTE(Kokanee @ May 16 2009, 01:12 AM) *
No one knows why Ben Matine and Jim Jardineau gave the video I assume to be a video disc. To one of the local forestry worker's. That was just plain stupid on their part. Especially without making a copy of the video first.
Hi Bill,...I know as much as you do. Sorry!

hey kokanee thats ok but i other people here in this great can keep us posted on this new documentary dvd etc. updates this continues thumbup.gif
Pywacket
QUOTE(Kokanee @ May 15 2009, 07:52 PM) *
I don't mean to come off in that manner however I grow tired of some of the antics that members display in here. I take this subject very seriously and I always give people the benefit of the doubt no matter what and how frustrating it may be.


Oh, sure you do. Remember this?

QUOTE(Kokanee @ May 15 2009, 12:15 PM) *
M.K Davis is an idiot!



QUOTE(Kokanee @ May 15 2009, 07:18 PM) *
If you don't have any positive or new information to bring to the table I suggest you keep your comments to yourself.


And that's a no-no. wink.gif
Bitter Monk
QUOTE(Kokanee @ May 15 2009, 07:52 PM) *
Let the pieces fall where they may.


They already did... in the toilet.
Kokanee
QUOTE(Pywacket @ May 15 2009, 07:35 PM) *
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Oh, sure you do. Remember this?
And that's a no-no. wink.gif

But it's the truth! Isn't that what were all searching for?
Kokanee
QUOTE(Dudlow @ May 15 2009, 06:31 PM) *
cool.gif Hi 'Kokanee'. The reason for my doubt about the still pictures and stating that the creature looks like a man in a Ghillie suit is that -- morphologically speaking and in terms of body proportions -- the hips on the creature in the still photos appear to be too high for a BF. The hips are about where they would be on a human figure. On one of the photographs, the hips actually stick out below a drawn in waist, creating the impression that the suit/costume is bunched at the waist/hip join area. In my experience BF have a rather long torso. Sorry, it simply looks too human and too un-BF like to me.

If this sounds unreasonable to you I would suggest having a look at the various body morphology estimates and diagrams published by Fahrenbach, Meldrum, Bindernagel and Krantz which also tend to reflect my own limited observations. That's why the still photos scream man-in-a-suit to me; but that's just me.
Dudlow

I appreciate your scientific analysis but I'm basing my opinion on the sheer size, mass and height of the creature. Show me a 10' man on this planet that could fit into that size of suit?
masterbarber
QUOTE(Bitter Monk @ May 15 2009, 10:54 PM) *
They already did... in the toilet.



Yep, This duck was cooked quite a while ago. I'm certain that two grown men with video of a sasquatch would just give it away to some "Official authority" without realizing the potential scientific and monetary gain to be had. This smacks of another "My dog ate it" type of excuse that always seems to follow these spectacular new discoveries/encounters. It's basically the only red flag you need to determine that's it's horse sh*t. new_thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
billgreen2005bigfoot
i still hope this new documentary dvd about bigfoot comes out real soon. please keep updated ok smile.gif
Furious_George
QUOTE(Kokanee @ May 15 2009, 08:01 PM) *
Is anyone here even aware that in the youtube video, it stated this footage is a dramatization of the confiscated video???? and that the mask in question was used for that purpose? The real footage was given to a forestry worker and was never returned or located remember???


Haha hey, you just copied and pasted this from another thread of yours. Is that legal?


http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?sho...2&start=792

post #799
QUOTE(Kokanee @ May 15 2009, 07:59 PM) *
Is anyone here even aware that in the video, it stated this footage is a dramatization of the confiscated video???? and the mask in question was used for that purpose? The real footage was given to a forestry worker and was never returned or located remember???


yakcam
I hate to say it, but when someone creates multiple accounts to try and pass off a guy in a costume as the real deal, they lose all credibility as far as I'm concerned. If he/they had come clean from the start and said that it's a reconstruction, now that would be a different story. I was originally going to take a look at this when it comes out, but I think I'll wait for reviews and opinions from the good folk here (if anyone actually watches it) to see if it's worth giving my hard earned dollars to a hoaxing sack of ****.

JMHO of course.

Cheers,

Kraig
Kokanee
QUOTE(Furious_George @ May 16 2009, 01:13 AM) *
Haha hey, you just copied and pasted this from another thread of yours. Is that legal?


http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?sho...2&start=792

post #799

lol,...shhhh,...please don't call the Police on me.
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