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Bobby Orangeboom
Are there any, aside from the PGF, in your opinion ??

I mean, there's lots & lots of fakes/hoaxes & a few " possibles " but all are ultimately inconclusive one way or the other if they haven't actually been proven to have been faked but are there, in your opinion, any other Pictures out there that YOU think is actually a BF or do you really think that there aren't any, made availble publically anyway ??
george42
http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?sho...33&start=33

This is the footage that drew me to this board, actually from a link from the James Randi debunking boards.
This video/GIF, the way I'm seeing it, is either a hoax of gorilla feeding video, or a gorilla like primate in North America. I don't see other options. I think I made my perspective on watching the gif pretty clear in the discussion.
lookinginmichigan
I have always liked this one...one of the first I saw way back when.

AlbertaSasquatch
Wasn't that picture shown to be a hoax lookinginmichigan? scratchhead.gif
DavSquatch
thats the Cliff Crook pic, AS and Looking. and yes I believe it was proven
to be an action figure in a small puddle. Do a search on Cliff Crook here
and I believe you will find your answer.

dav
Bradley
QUOTE(Bobby Orangeboom @ May 13 2009, 04:17 AM) *
Are there any, aside from the PGF, in your opinion ??

I mean, there's lots & lots of fakes/hoaxes & a few " possibles " but all are ultimately inconclusive one way or the other if they haven't actually been proven to have been faked but are there, in your opinion, any other Pictures out there that YOU think is actually a BF or do you really think that there aren't any, made availble publically anyway ??


Bobby: I am glad you asked for opinions about "Pictures of Bigfoot". I have not posted for a long time, but always monitor the posts here. I think you have always been fair and impartial on the forum, and I believe your question was sincere. And, for that I wish to offer my opinions.

Yes, I believe there are many photos, some from the early days of cameras, and many more photos from recent years. In the last few years there have been several videos made by citizens and never made public. But, there are no doubt a multitude of photos and security videos that were made and being withheld by various U.S. Government Agencies, primarily the Defense Department. An example is a fairly recent case in which security cameras inside a highly restricted DOD facility during the night detected "three people" that had intruded onto the base. The breach was seen and recorded by security personnel on video equipment. A security alert was issued and made public. A full scale investigation was instigated, and tracking dogs from a local Air Force base were brought in. The next day, the base commander issued a news release which stated that the intrusion was made by animals. The base would provide no further details, nor would the base release copies of the video tape. The kicker is that the base is surrounded by areas that have continued to generate credible reports of enigmatic primates for well over 100 years. One of the animals was seen a few miles from the base about two weeks ago. The witness is well known in the area, and his hunting history, skills and experiences are extraordinary.

The above statement contains opinions. The following is factual information that is pertinent to your question. Yes, there are many photos and videos in the hands of ordinary citizens and "Bigfoot Researchers". In addition to the videos that are currently being discussed on this forum, there are others that are currently being examined by reserchers. The videos will probably be released to the public in the near future.

A final comment. Some of the photos and videos I have seen were made near rural home sites which are routinely or occasionally visited by these creatures. Some folks, in a derisive manner, term the visits as "habituation" based on their flawed belief that these creatures are monsters that would have no contact with "humans" except to do them harm. Nothing could be further from the truth. In most cases, it is the humans who newly habituate these rural areas, not the creatures. The creatures are simply following age-old foraging paths, and interested in the new residents, and interested in their gardens and orchards as food sources. (The creatures' overnight theft of every fruit from apple and pear trees is one of the most conclusive clues to their presence in an area.) In some cases their "house-warming parties" get out of hand, as hundreds of reports in researchers' reports will confirm.

This comment is made to point out that MOST of the folks that have these creatures visit their rural property on occasions do NOT make that information public, but will work with researchers who are not hell bent and determined to kill one and cut off it head for science. All these people know these creatures are some type of primate that is a closer relative to us than they are to apes. They may not meet the dictionary terms for humans as humans themselves defined, but they do have most of the attributes.

Thanks again for your efforts on this forum. It is very much appreciated, and, to say the very least, refreshing.
Bobby Orangeboom
QUOTE(Bradley @ May 14 2009, 09:04 PM) *
Bobby: I am glad you asked for opinions about "Pictures of Bigfoot". I have not posted for a long time, but always monitor the posts here. I think you have always been fair and impartial on the forum, and I believe your question was sincere. And, for that I wish to offer my opinions.

Yes, I believe there are many photos, some from the early days of cameras, and many more photos from recent years. In the last few years there have been several videos made by citizens and never made public. But, there are no doubt a multitude of photos and security videos that were made and being withheld by various U.S. Government Agencies, primarily the Defense Department. An example is a fairly recent case in which security cameras inside a highly restricted DOD facility during the night detected "three people" that had intruded onto the base. The breach was seen and recorded by security personnel on video equipment. A security alert was issued and made public. A full scale investigation was instigated, and tracking dogs from a local Air Force base were brought in. The next day, the base commander issued a news release which stated that the intrusion was made by animals. The base would provide no further details, nor would the base release copies of the video tape. The kicker is that the base is surrounded by areas that have continued to generate credible reports of enigmatic primates for well over 100 years. One of the animals was seen a few miles from the base about two weeks ago. The witness is well known in the area, and his hunting history, skills and experiences are extraordinary.

The above statement contains opinions. The following is factual information that is pertinent to your question. Yes, there are many photos and videos in the hands of ordinary citizens and "Bigfoot Researchers". In addition to the videos that are currently being discussed on this forum, there are others that are currently being examined by reserchers. The videos will probably be released to the public in the near future.

A final comment. Some of the photos and videos I have seen were made near rural home sites which are routinely or occasionally visited by these creatures. Some folks, in a derisive manner, term the visits as "habituation" based on their flawed belief that these creatures are monsters that would have no contact with "humans" except to do them harm. Nothing could be further from the truth. In most cases, it is the humans who newly habituate these rural areas, not the creatures. The creatures are simply following age-old foraging paths, and interested in the new residents, and interested in their gardens and orchards as food sources. (The creatures' overnight theft of every fruit from apple and pear trees is one of the most conclusive clues to their presence in an area.) In some cases their "house-warming parties" get out of hand, as hundreds of reports in researchers' reports will confirm.

This comment is made to point out that MOST of the folks that have these creatures visit their rural property on occasions do NOT make that information public, but will work with researchers who are not hell bent and determined to kill one and cut off it head for science. All these people know these creatures are some type of primate that is a closer relative to us than they are to apes. They may not meet the dictionary terms for humans as humans themselves defined, but they do have most of the attributes.

Thanks again for your efforts on this forum. It is very much appreciated, and, to say the very least, refreshing.


Nice one Brad, a very, very interesteing Post & thanks for the compliments.. thumbup.gif
youcan'tseeme
QUOTE(AlbertaSasquatch @ May 13 2009, 11:11 AM) *
Wasn't that picture shown to be a hoax lookinginmichigan? scratchhead.gif


Is that a serious question?
twinkletoes
The one of the white sasquatch looked pretty creepy to me..
lookinginmichigan
QUOTE(AlbertaSasquatch @ May 13 2009, 11:11 AM) *
Wasn't that picture shown to be a hoax lookinginmichigan? scratchhead.gif


I don't know...probably. Which one's aren't hoaxed? It just looks like what I would expect a BF to look like.

QUOTE(DavSquatch @ May 13 2009, 11:21 AM) *
thats the Cliff Crook pic, AS and Looking. and yes I believe it was proven
to be an action figure in a small puddle. Do a search on Cliff Crook here
and I believe you will find your answer.

dav


Just followed DavSquatch's suggestion and he is right. I still like the photo.
Bobby Orangeboom
QUOTE(twinkletoes @ May 21 2009, 11:46 PM) *
The one of the white sasquatch looked pretty creepy to me..


???
Dantallus
Even those photos are in all probability fakes, having encountered one of these creatures at close range I can say that the bulk, girth and mass are strikingly similiar. Something about these images that I just like.



Dantallus
However...... Here is all the proof anyone will ever need....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig_2k9aDhpE
DavSquatch
QUOTE(Bobby Orangeboom @ May 22 2009, 09:32 AM) *
???


one white sasquatch comin up

Click to view attachment


dav
Robert
Dantallus,

Those appear to be photographed off a TV screen. Is this a video? I've never seen these before.
Dantallus
QUOTE(Robert @ May 22 2009, 11:00 AM) *
Dantallus,

Those appear to be photographed off a TV screen. Is this a video? I've never seen these before.



I have no clue as to their origin Robert. I found them on a random research page quite awhile ago. Someone else had them up asking questions about them. Dont remember were. I think I like them because even if they are fake, for anyone who has yet to see the creature in full view they show you an example of the sheer mass of the animal. Maybe when and if the time comes you wont be so shocked and might get that once in a lifetime pic since you can think straight lol.
Dudlow
cool.gif Here's a page of what are said to be hoaxed photos. You'll probably have to copy and paste this one.
Dudlow

(http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.geocities.com/tomkinson99/hoaxes/ccphoto.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.geocities.com/tomkinson99/hoaxes/hoaxes.html&usg=__LF2vMv0Szc4JR3m-deHk8YFSK3I=&h=533&w=513&sz=50&hl=en&start=11&um=1&tbnid=03vo4Bs94W_AyM:&tbnh=132&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcliff%2Bcrook%2Bphotographs%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:*:IE-Address%26rlz%3D1I7GWYE%26sa%3DX)
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