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crawdaddy
How come more traps are not used? Traps have been used since the beginning of time to catch all sorts of animals. If Lions, Tigers, Bears, and even other humans can be trapped, how come no one has done so with Bigfoot? I'm talking about folks with private property who claim multiple BF sightings. Big holes, giant hooks, large cages, huge snares, something. Camera traps just don't seem to cut it.

Will a trap work? Would it hold BF? Ideas?
mojo1963
QUOTE(crawdaddy @ Apr 27 2009, 10:32 AM) *
How come more traps are not used? Traps have been used since the beginning of time to catch all sorts of animals. If Lions, Tigers, Bears, and even other humans can be trapped, how come no one has done so with Bigfoot? I'm talking about folks with private property who claim multiple BF sightings. Big holes, giant hooks, large cages, huge snares, something. Camera traps just don't seem to cut it.

Will a trap work? Would it hold BF? Ideas?

Check your state and local laws. Some traps are illegal. You gave to be careful not to trap some wild, large animal like Rosie O'Donnell.

"If guns kill people, then keyboards make spelinng erors and spoons made Rosie O'Donnell fat!"

Regards,
Mojo....
wickie
"If guns kill people, then keyboards make spelinng erors and spoons made Rosie O'Donnell fat!"

laugh1.gif Sweet!
hoggindaz
hmm thats a very interesting idea, my situation is exactly what you are describing.

As far as the types of different traps; I dont think a cage would work, i think they are to intelligient to be caught in one, and if by some chance they are caught they would be strong enough to break out, unless they cage was reinforced VERY heavily, in which case there would be the issues of weight, placement, transport. I am not familiar with a hook trap, I think the snare is also a very good idea, especially for my situation as there shouldnt be any people walking around my woods, (although if there were i would like to catch them! boxing.gif ) however i think that there are some legality/animal rights issues as to snares, i doubt anyone would even know or come harrass me about it but on the off chance that someone found out i could be in some trouble and the "sorry officer i was trying to catch bigfoot" story might not fly with fish and game. the big hole idea sounds very good, my uncle was in nam and he would tell me all the time that the thing they worried most about was falling in to "punjit" traps, which were holes dug on the trail about 5-6 feet deep about 5 foot diameter, with sharpened bamboo stakes at the bottom.
moregon
Traps have been used, and were not productive.

Building any kind of trap to capture/kill a subject as big as bigfoot is reported to be will be big enough to include other species such as protected animals, domestic livestock and man himself. I have little doubt that if it's discovered you WOULD get into trouble, simply for it being an endangerment.
hoggindaz
im not sure, maybe if you are going out hunting on property you dont own, but i own the land and i dont see why i shouldnt be able to dig a hole on my land if thats what i want to do.
moregon
You can put a swimming pool on your land too, but if you don't take precautions to protect others from falling in and someone does, you can be held responsible if they are injured or drown.

QUOTE
Do not rely on signs to protect you. Regardless is there are safety or warning signs posted around a pool, the pool owner is still responsible for any accident or injury that is incurred on their property; this includes trespassers.


(emphasis mine)

http://www.anapolschwartz.com/practices/po...l-liability.asp

Another interesting quote from Utah...

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The duty of care owned by landowner or person in charge to a trespasser is to refrain from willfully, maliciously or recklessly injuring them. In other words, a landowner or person in charge cannot set traps for trespassers. A trap is a hazard that is known to the landowner or person in charge, but concealed to others. If a trespasser is injured by a trap, the landowner is open to liability for the injury, even though the trespasser violated he law by trespassing.


Of course you'd say the trap wasn't for a trespasser and they'd claim it was. So at this point in time how well do you think your defense of, "The trap was for bigfoot." would hold up in a court of law?

I certainly wouldn't risk it without serious guidance of someone in the legal profession with a good knowledge of the laws specific in your state.



hoggindaz
wow!, i did not know that. doesnt that seem a little bit ridiculous that you can be charged with negligience or something even if someone is illegally trespassing on your land.
Searcher67
Supposedly, and I am going purely off memory here, there was a trap that was built long ago somewhere in the PNW, it was made of logs...It was allegedly built to catch a BF. I wll try to look around and see what I can find regarding this. If I remember correctly I saw it on something like the Discovery Channel.

OK, I found this:


http://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/trap.htm
moregon
Yep that's the Bigfoot Trap in the Applegate, I had some pictures posted here of it at one time but can't seem to find them in a search. The biggest drawback of that trap were the timbers used for the top/roof of the structure were not very strong at all, maybe only a one inch thick timber. The last time I visited the trap there was a discussion going on about restoring it, as it had been the object of vandals and graffiti over the years. The door, which was heavy steel which use to slide up and down within a steel track had bolted and I believe eventually welded into a permanently open position so nobody or anything would get accidently trapped inside.

I think I have copies of those pics on the hard drive in another computer which I can't access at this time. If/When I find the pics I'll repost them.

The Applegate is SW of Jacksonville, OR and Medford, OR. Taking the backroads from where I lived at that time I could be there in 15-20 minutes so I wasn't far from there.

(edited to add) The trap itself was built with very thick plank boards, but reinforced with logs sunk deep into the ground around it pressing up against these planks every couple of feet. So anything inside pressing against the planks to force them out, would also have to break the logs off at ground level to get free. Except as I said the planks on the roof were pretty thin in comparison.
moregon
I found a couple of the pics, these are only of the front of the trap where the entry way is/was. I'll keep trying to find the pics showing the timbers on the side.

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The trap, as I said is located in the "Applegate". The next picture is across the lake from where the trap is located to give you some idea of surrounding land. Although it's now a recreational area for fishing/swimming/camping it's still fairly remote. To the south and west of the lake you can travel those roads for miles without ever seeing anyone. There's one dirt road that comes off the western edge that eventually comes out by the "Oregon Caves" where Dr. Johnson had his sighting. I figure approximately 40 miles away with no people living along that road and very few ever travel it.
hoggindaz
is that some sort of joke? there is no way that is going to hold a sasquatch that wants to break out. Also i would imagine it would be really annoying and cost consuming to keep resetting the trap when it caught bear/deer etc..
Grazhopprr
A trap like above, would need at least 10 inch thick logs all over it, including the door.

I've ponder what kinda trap would hold something that huge. Like a snare made with half inch steel cable, at about 7 feet off the ground, anchored to trees, and log weights. Bf steps through, and the cable zips closed from 3 directions, with one way zipper clamps on the loops. But, the question arises, if you caught one, wtf would you do with it?

Suppose you could made a whip trap, that just whips a 1/4 inch cable, with wire hooks on it, that grab at the BF's skin and hair, but the BF can get away from it. No kill, no harm done, but DNA caught.

Dumb ideas really, since there are too many other animals that would get in the way, long before you caught a BF.

crawdaddy
So out all the properties and all the reports, those are the only two traps that are pictured. Sad looking BF traps. A cage of strentgh may work. BF is not superman. A hole deep enough where he can't climb out would also work. There are gravel pits, sand pits, creeks, etc all over peoples properties. I don't think a big ole hole on my property would worry me. Label the thing BIGFOOT TRAP and set it to a weight limit of 300 lbs if worried. Our ancestors captured large dangerous animals thousands of yeas ago, so why can't we catch a Bigfoot? I know if I saw BF on a regular basis I would do my damn best to catch the thing one way or the other. Saying traps don't work....well what has worked?

And yes, I guess a gator hook with an apple on it would not go to well with the local Game Warden.
Grazhopprr
A gorilla can rip your arms off. BF is 4 times bigger, and I imagine 10 times stronger. You won't trap a BF in any kind of "cage", unless it's built like a steel box car. Try moving something like that out there. 3/8th inch steel cable snares would be the only thing that might trap one, grounded to some real big trees, or large logs as a drag weight. One way zip locks would insure a good grab. They don't make snares that big, so McGiver it. You'd have to setup at least 3 of them, coming into the same spot, from 3 directions at the same time. Imagine the noise it would make, fighting that snare. Would wake up the forest for miles around. And, you might get it's cousins coming in to help. An extended family of really pissed off squatch, looking for whoever set that trap. Hm, maybe that camp site half a mile away. ranting.gif
crawdaddy
I junt don't think BF would call his family over for help. They are not that smart. Just don't think so. Like most animals, they may bluff, make a charge, bust most likely scatter.
DevouredbyVermn
So you set up a trap like the one shown. You cant get out there for a couple of weeks. You show up and the doors closed. You raise it up and inside you find a deer dead from starvation. How would that make you feel?
BobTo
Here we go with the king kong strength etc etc
Any trap that will hold a bear or other large animal would hold any bf... i.e. steel corrugated tiles etc.
Any bf would, I suspect, not go anywhere near said trap.
I would think if bf is 1/2 as smart as some say, removing a snare after the initial scare and fighting(pulling)
would not be difficult once it stopped fighting.
DevouredbyVermn
Yup, getting them to go into a trap would be the trick. If that was you, would you go in there? "Ooohhhhhh, bacon." SLAM
Ace!
The trap in the Applegate has been disabled, it's more an attraction that you have to hike to see.
Field Investigator
like omg.gif i cant believe what iam reading trapping BF coverlaugh.gif now thats funny.
DevouredbyVermn
Yup, funny indeed. I can just picture a couple of researchers showing up at a trap they built and realizing that they got one judging by the loud banging and loud howls.
"Ok Bob, this was your idea. Now what?"
"Dunno, never thought that far ahead."
Field Investigator
new_lmaosmiley.gif yahoo.gif then scratchhead.gif
Swamp Dog
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Bob
If one was caught in that glorified mouse trap! I would hate to see what it's hands and fingers would look like after trying escape from that expanded metal door. I think there would be a lot of DNA left behind If did escape. If ran across something like this, I would at least disable it or destroy it if could.

I am not a tree hugger and I hunt.

Seeing a trap like this in the forest would piss me off to no end. ranting.gif


Bob

Edited to say: I am not referring to swap dogs post or picture. That is amusing.
bigrex
If you were to construct a trap, it would have to be one that would probably catch a human. In other words, it could not look like a cage or even be noticeable in the wild. Something like a pit covered with a thin covering overlaid by sand and leaves, but then if you were to construct something large enough, of course bigfoot would probably become aware that you were creating it and then avoid it afterward. The bait would also have to look like a natural kill. Like a deer shot and not contaminated with human smell or, an animal with bear odor on it, etc.
CedarGiant
I'd bait my trap with Tom Biscardi...probably only catch a bunch of BS with it though.
Littlefoot14
QUOTE(Grazhopprr @ May 30 2009, 11:33 AM) *
A gorilla can rip your arms off. BF is 4 times bigger, and I imagine 10 times stronger. You won't trap a BF in any kind of "cage", unless it's built like a steel box car. Try moving something like that out there. 3/8th inch steel cable snares would be the only thing that might trap one, grounded to some real big trees, or large logs as a drag weight. One way zip locks would insure a good grab. They don't make snares that big, so McGiver it. You'd have to setup at least 3 of them, coming into the same spot, from 3 directions at the same time. Imagine the noise it would make, fighting that snare. Would wake up the forest for miles around. And, you might get it's cousins coming in to help. An extended family of really pissed off squatch, looking for whoever set that trap. Hm, maybe that camp site half a mile away. ranting.gif


actually not a bad idea, expensive as hell and not exacttly pracical, but a boxcar can be purchased for appx 10k, remove the trucks and hire a compnay with high power helicopter to lift it into the woods in a stae with extremely dense sightings, maybe have a reseacher put some sort of bait and rig a sort on trap thing to slam the door shut as soon as some sort of sensor goes off and shuts the door. like i said it would be extremely expensive but hey if i had the available rescources id do it.

and you honestly cant say that if you were in the woods walking and you came across a boxcar with the door open with no signs of life, you wouldnt go check it out
Flashman
Me say use a garbage truck. Load up with roadkill, leave invitingly open at remote dump...
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