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Spinlok
This is a very interesting find. Bigfoot hunter thefirstbillyjack on youtube has found somthing that resebles a small monkey, or could it be a baby bigfoot? Either way, it doesn't really belong in Minnesota. Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqKcN3nA3wo

Thoughts?
billgreen2005bigfoot
very interesting possible filmfootage of a baby sasquatch sleeping in a tree. but more needs to done the filmfootage & the people who took this filmfootage realy need to contacted to ask them questions indeedy. thanks bill thumbup.gif iagree.gif updates as it continues.
Robert
It looks like some kind of a primate, but I can't make out any 'hands' or a 'face' as the fur is very thick, and it doesn't move at all in the video.
WildWomanOfTheWoods
Weird.... It's shape and head area remind me a lot of a porcupine, but ut doesn't have porcupine type quills. Is there a kind of animal that closely resembles a procupine but has fur rather than quills?
RedRatSnake
Hi

I wish the guy tried to stir it up a bit but i guess if ya come across something like that the focus is on just getting some footage, Of course i don't rule out a well placed prop since the thing ain't moving in the vid

Peace
Tim
Robert
If the the witness is telling the truth this creature jumped from tree to tree right after he quit filming. Porcupines don't do that. Also it has no quills, only thick fur. I'm going to go out on a limb (ha ha ha) and say it's an escaped lemur living in the wild Midwestern woods.

Actually Tim, watch it again, it moves its head slightly when the witness moves around at one point. Also, you can see it breathing if you look closely.
masterbarber
QUOTE(Spinlok @ Apr 10 2009, 08:03 PM) *
This is a very interesting find. Bigfoot hunter thefirstbillyjack on youtube has found somthing that resebles a small monkey, or could it be a baby bigfoot? Either way, it doesn't really belong in Minnesota. Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqKcN3nA3wo

Thoughts?


It's some type of monkey.
At 0.20 I can distinctly hear a monkey in the background. This video is BS and was probably taken at a zoo or wildlife sanctuary. new_thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
Robert
I think that was a bird.

Sounded like a woodpecker to me.
WildWomanOfTheWoods
OK, after looking at it closer, I agree, it is some kind of monkey. And the way it is all huddled up like it is, and being that this is taken in Minnesota, I'm guessing it is an escapee from somewhere, and he's very cold, and not used to being out like he his. And, the only sounds in the background that I hear are birds.
masterbarber
QUOTE(Robert @ Apr 10 2009, 09:07 PM) *
I think that was a bird.

Sounded like a woodpecker to me.



Hahahahaha, my good old cheap laptop speakers.

It might be a "little lion"

Spazmo
It doesn't look like a monkey to me, mainly because at the one point where it moves it's head, it seems to have a small snout.

I think it's the elusive afro-squirrel. coverlaugh.gif
Furious_George
I'm going to go with birch. Oh wait, are we suppose to comment on the subject that was not in focus?
WildWomanOfTheWoods
Maybe it's one of these. -- a Japanese macaque. If I saw one of these tooling around the woods in Minnesota, I would think baby bigfoot!

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RedRatSnake
QUOTE(Robert @ Apr 10 2009, 08:57 PM) *
Actually Tim, watch it again, it moves its head slightly when the witness moves around at one point. Also, you can see it breathing if you look closely.


Hi

thumbup.gif I missed the quick move there, I seen breathing but wrote it off as wind the first time cause i didn't see any other movement,

Peace
Tim smile.gif
Squatchaholic
This could be a pine marten. This is their natural habitat(Banning State Park in Northern Minnesota)
and they can jump from tree to tree stronger and faster than squirrels.
MooseMan
QUOTE(WildWomanOfTheWoods @ Apr 10 2009, 04:54 PM) *
Weird.... It's shape and head area remind me a lot of a porcupine, but ut doesn't have porcupine type quills. Is there a kind of animal that closely resembles a procupine but has fur rather than quills?


My first impression was porcupine as well.
peregrine
I think it's a porcupine.

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RedRatSnake
Hi

One thing that gets me is it don't look around , There is no curiosity at all, Seems to me that if it was a primate it would be watching and somewhat interested, This thing seems to be taking the you can't see me Approach.

Peace
Tim thumbup.gif
Spazmo
Maybe it's sick?
norcal logger
QUOTE(peregrine @ Apr 10 2009, 08:54 PM) *
I think it's a porcupine.

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That's certainly what it looks like but I've never seen one "jump" or do anything that involves speed and acceleration. They move more like slugs.
COGrizzly
Porcupine is my vote.

One of the last things I would guess is a baby bigfoot
peregrine
QUOTE(norcal logger @ Apr 10 2009, 09:10 PM) *
That's certainly what it looks like but I've never seen one "jump" or do anything that involves speed and acceleration. They move more like slugs.

Well, we don't have any evidence to support the claim that the critter displayed any agility.

As you say, their movements are very deliberate.

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uffda320
I want to know how he can focus in on the trees in the background, yet the subject in the foreground is fuzzy.

I agree with Pine Marten.

peregrine
While perusing YouTube's porcupine clips I found one of a guy hugging a porcupine. I once saw a zoo employee carrying a large porcupine, which quite surprised me, but this guy takes the cake.

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I should note that the first montage I posted included a screen cap from the YouTube video obtained during the bigfoot expedition, as shown below. Does anyone know if this was a BFRO expedition?

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peregrine
QUOTE(COGrizzly @ Apr 10 2009, 09:24 PM) *
One of the last things I would guess is a baby bigfoot

Yes, as for this animal being a baby bigfoot, the photographer himself stated that it had a long tail, so it can't be an ape. To me it clearly looks like a porcupine, but things have been slow since the Jacobs pictures, so I suppose folks will latch on to just about anything to talk about.


[Edit to add that I think the bird heard in the video is an American Robin.]
RayG
QUOTE(WildWomanOfTheWoods @ Apr 10 2009, 08:54 PM) *
Weird.... It's shape and head area remind me a lot of a porcupine, but ut doesn't have porcupine type quills. Is there a kind of animal that closely resembles a procupine but has fur rather than quills?


I thought it looked a lot like a porky too. The video is out of focus so we can't tell if it's covered in fur or quills. Reminded me of this...

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But that was before I found this pic online of an obvious fur-covered primate that's disguised as a porcupine. evillaugh.gif

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RayG
peregrine
It might be worth clarifying that porcupines are covered with fur. Only a very small percentage of their hair is comprised of quills of various lengths.
billgreen2005bigfoot
maybe the young possible sasquatch was afraid to come out the tree becouse it wasnt sure which sasquatch research groups were looking at thats why is lying looking like was sleeping in tree. updates as this continues iagree.gif rofl02.gif thanks bill
vilnoori
Porcupine. The "leaping from tree to tree" is only hearsay.
nightwing
If this is a baby bigfoot, then Jim is gonna be p.o.d that he let this one go...
billgreen2005bigfoot
hey nightwing WOW... i agree that does look like a possible baby primate ie sasquatch in that above photo but more questions & answers need to be seriously asked this jim person. thanks bill smile.gif
StacyInMI
Bill, it's a PORCUPINE, just like the one in the video. smile.gif
Bitter Monk
You're absolutely right Bill. This Jim person has a lot of explaining to do... about a lot of things. evillaugh.gif
bipedalist
QUOTE(peregrine @ Apr 11 2009, 12:42 AM) *
It might be worth clarifying that porcupines are covered with fur. Only a very small percentage of their hair is comprised of quills of various lengths.



And, therein lies the rub, oh lets go pet the lovely furry baby Bigfoot, .............. Man, I hope those things never make it to the mountains of NC. coverlaugh.gif
Bill, it's just a porcupine, or a mangy bear with hirsutism that got a hold of this:

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wolftrax
QUOTE(billgreen2005bigfoot @ Apr 11 2009, 02:23 AM) *
hey nightwing WOW... i agree that does look like a possible baby primate ie sasquatch in that above photo but more questions & answers need to be seriously asked this jim person. thanks bill smile.gif


Yeah, check out those arm lengths compared to the length of the legs! Let's get this jim person in here now!
bipedalist
Well apparently its sending some kind of message to the first Billy Jack causing him not to be able to control the focus or tripod of his camera:......

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...sa%3DN%26um%3D1

..... so I might have to reconsider my analysis of the culprit... smile.gif
hopeful
Here is a video of a Pine Marten: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8COifd5_G8

Porcupine sounds very reasonable, but if it did move around the way he said, then I vote Pine Marten.

I wonder if any of our photo gurus would be inclined to try and lighten up a still enough for us to see its face?

The little guy actually is in focus once in a while, not very often, but occasionally. Some cameras just don't focus well when you zoom in so I don't really think he was intentionally focusing on the trees rather than the animal.
norcal logger
Well since this is a BF forum I did want to talk BF. However, that critter is a porcupine. They eat the cambium layer of trees usually near the tree top where the bark is thinner and the cambium is sweeter. They move real slow. Their quills "lay down" unless they are threatened which I've only seen happen when they are on the ground. They do not "shoot" their quills but rather if a predator makes a move on them, the quills release from their flesh with seemingly no resistance. The ends of the quills are barbed in such a way that whatever animal is unfortunate (or stupid) enough to attack one and get stuck with the quills, will find that they work their way deeper into the victims flesh as he continues to move in his regular daily routines. The only way to remove them is to pull them out with pliers. This hurts a lot. My dog told me so.

Pine Martens don't look very much like a porcupine. They move quickly and nervously. Much shorter fur and very alert and attentive eyes. I've never seen one sit still but for a moment.

I didn't watch the "hugging" video but my guess is that that porcupine is a pet and did not feel threatened by his handler thus leaving his quills down and anchored in his own flesh.

It's an unpleasant part of my career but if I see a porcupine in a plantation, I'm supposed to kill it because they do a lot of damage to the young trees.

Just some thoughts, Norcal thumbup.gif
billgreen2005bigfoot
QUOTE(wolftrax @ Apr 11 2009, 04:31 PM) *
Yeah, check out those arm lengths compared to the length of the legs! Let's get this jim person in here now!

hey wolftrax yes totaly agree with your above reply indeed that jim fellow needs to come this wonderful forum to explain some stuff to us in nuteral way. thanks bill. updates as it continues. iagree.gif
Robert
Norcal, I have to agree with Hopeful on this one. It has to be a pine martin. In this video is was all bunched up and trying to be 'invisible' by not moving, which made its fur look longer. Heck, chances are it just has longer fur than most you have seen as it still has its winter coat, or it may just be a longer-haired variety.

Porcupines just don't jump from tree to tree. They don't have the ability to do that.
Robert
OK - I did some more research. I now think this is a FISHER also known as a FISHER CAT. It's the right size, color, with long hair, behavior, range of habitat, everything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher_(animal)
thickfoot
I too think porcupine. I have seen them several times in the wild and when they have been in trees that is exactly what they do-sit pretty much motionless for long periods of time. I thought Fishers were primarily ground dwellers that are good tree climbers...the body does not seem to fit for a Fisher.

my 2c.
rockinkt
QUOTE(norcal logger @ Apr 11 2009, 10:26 AM) *
It's an unpleasant part of my career but if I see a porcupine in a plantation, I'm supposed to kill it because they do a lot of damage to the young trees.


Yep. I have also had them chew up my axe handles and boots!
Ty
QUOTE(wolftrax @ Apr 11 2009, 12:31 PM) *
Yeah, check out those arm lengths compared to the length of the legs! Let's get this jim person in here now!


I agree Wolfie ! Someone should also contact Dr. Meldrum, it could be the same baby bigfoot he sees peering over the head of the Memorial Day teenaged baby sitting bigfoot!

It's fun being a woo.
norcal logger
QUOTE(rockinkt @ Apr 11 2009, 02:51 PM) *
Yep. I have also had them chew up my axe handles and boots!


So true, they love anything with salt on it. Check out NorthernWildlife.com- they have lots of pictures of "baby BFs", "Pine Martens", "Fishers" and the always elusive "Prairie Home Fuzzy Tree Critter" (Garrisonii Keilloricus). Also some good porcupine shots.

Have fun, Norcal thumbup.gif
RedRatSnake
Hi

Well i am some what sure it's not an Ocean animal of any kind so i am out of the game, I have to go by what you guys think it is, So before we get anymore animals involved let's rule out what we got already thumbup.gif

1. Porcupine
2. Fisher cat
3. Pine Martin
4. Baby Bigfoot
5. Lion Fish


Peace
Tim new_lmaosmiley.gif
rockinkt
Have we ruled out one of these...?


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norcal logger
Oops, that website is northernwilds.com
Carolina_Dog
I guess we can go ahead and rule out the tree octopus since they are found only in the PNW.

http://zapatopi.net/treeoctopus/
norcal logger
Where's my sign? I can't find it! Where is that confounded sign?!!!
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