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XionComrade
I live in Kingsport, Tennessee and get 9 days off of work for vacation(4 of them are weekend) unless I get layed off then I get however long I want.

I have done research on average Bear harvests, annual precipitation, Population per square mile, and just overall Sasquatch activity.

For West Virginia, I have found Randolph County to have the most impressive average bear harvest per year, being from 130 to 220 per year. It has good Sasquatch activity as far as I can tell and the eastern most chunk of it recieves the highest amount of precipitation in all of West Virginia and has 27 people per square mile(Calculated as 28,262/1,040 sqmi). Cons are driving distance.

Pocahontas county has a incredible Persons per Square mile. 9.6 people per square mile. 9,131 people total and 942 square miles. It has the same amount of told Sasquatch activity as Randolph but gets nowhere near the amount of precipitation(Still good mind you!)


For Tennessee their is the constant talk of a large population of Sasquatches that roam the areas of the Great Smokys, but the BFRO has only cataloged 3 instances. People swear that they are all over the place though(Population of 5 or 6 meaning all over of course!) The Smokies definitely get the best annual precipitation of Tennessee and boast the densest black bear population this side of the country(Hard to believe it would outweigh some of West Virginia IMO). Their is the factors of Tourism to take into hand here, would the Squatches love being around the extra people, eating their leftovers left outs at night? Or would the tourists just piss them off and cause them to find somewhere else to go. I know for a fact that if this area can support even 20 Black bears, then it can support at least 1 Sasquatch.
Surely the lack of hunting in the park would be a huge plus factor for them also!
Can anyone help me out? The distance of the Smokies is a great advantage, only a 2 or so hour long drive and BAM! Their you have it! And Tennessee does get descent activity, one here and one there.

I would like to get a sighting in whenever possible, but I know that is easier said than done unless you burn down the whole damn park and shoot them...



Any other suggestions or anything? biggrin.gif
BABADADA
seems like a lot of BF sightings occur when driving at night -- if i had a week to do it i would drive every road in the Smoky mountains at night and look for roadside evidence during the day like foot prints.

Why do i choose this strategy? Because of wolf behavior in yellowstone

After being wiped out in the park early in the 20th century, 31 gray wolves were reintroduced in 1995 and 1996. They flourished. Today, more than 350 of their descendants roam the park and surrounding area, preying on the abundant elk, deer and bison.

When they were first released, some experts predicted they would fade quickly into the Yellowstone backcountry and sightings would be rare.

But the opposite happened. Wolves quickly learned that humans seldom left the ribbons of asphalt through the park, and that binoculars and spotting scopes fired no bullets. They learned to ignore people, as long as they weren’t approached, and Yellowstone’s “frontcountry” – that area visible from the road – simply became another part of their turf.

Wolf-watching began almost immediately after the first wolves were released from acclimation pens, and some people became addicted. They have become a subculture of Yellowstone – enthusiasts from afar who devote their vacations, and locals who devote their days off – to watching and recording wolf behavior in the park.


from:
http://www.thenewstribune.com/travel/v-lit...ory/627983.html

Therefore -- go tramping around in their backyard - BF runs away.

but if you re-create the most common scenario of BF sighting then just stay in the car and drive around the backroads at night.

my .02 cents
XionComrade
QUOTE(BABADADA @ Apr 6 2009, 03:43 PM) *
seems like a lot of BF sightings occur when driving at night -- if i had a week to do it i would drive every road in the Smoky mountains at night and look for roadside evidence during the day like foot prints.

Why do i choose this strategy? Because of wolf behavior in yellowstone

After being wiped out in the park early in the 20th century, 31 gray wolves were reintroduced in 1995 and 1996. They flourished. Today, more than 350 of their descendants roam the park and surrounding area, preying on the abundant elk, deer and bison.

When they were first released, some experts predicted they would fade quickly into the Yellowstone backcountry and sightings would be rare.

But the opposite happened. Wolves quickly learned that humans seldom left the ribbons of asphalt through the park, and that binoculars and spotting scopes fired no bullets. They learned to ignore people, as long as they weren’t approached, and Yellowstone’s “frontcountry” – that area visible from the road – simply became another part of their turf.

Wolf-watching began almost immediately after the first wolves were released from acclimation pens, and some people became addicted. They have become a subculture of Yellowstone – enthusiasts from afar who devote their vacations, and locals who devote their days off – to watching and recording wolf behavior in the park.


from:
http://www.thenewstribune.com/travel/v-lit...ory/627983.html

Therefore -- go tramping around in their backyard - BF runs away.

but if you re-create the most common scenario of BF sighting then just stay in the car and drive around the backroads at night.

my .02 cents



But what if you just walked the roads! No insanely bright headlights to blind them must be a plus!
BABADADA
well ... I am just an armchair researcher wink.gif I would like to research in the style and comfort of a Cadillac Escalade.
SSLeithead
QUOTE(XionComrade @ Apr 6 2009, 05:20 PM) *
But what if you just walked the roads! No insanely bright headlights to blind them must be a plus!


Grover liked the idea of driving because you can cover so much more distance in an evening compaired to hiking.

I have thought about driving the back roads here at night, there are tons of them, but what if you did see a sas? Most likely any pix of film would be worthless, with it being night.
XionComrade
QUOTE(SSLeithead @ Apr 7 2009, 12:04 PM) *
Grover liked the idea of driving because you can cover so much more distance in an evening compaired to hiking.

I have thought about driving the back roads here at night, there are tons of them, but what if you did see a sas? Most likely any pix of film would be worthless, with it being night.


Oh just to see one would be the highlight of my young life! I am not concerned with pictures or evidence, because once you have witnessed one(Sounds, rocks, or the big bad sighting!) you know for sure that they are real. It is best to let the doubters wallow in their lack of knowledge, and still yet some people specifically do not want to see one ever. I am the opposite, I would pay a great sum to meet with one of these creatures. Wouldn't it be great to be the one who brought in the final evidence and then got a job researching them? It would be the biggest zoological research area of all time!

Just imagine a Adopt a Sasquatch program XD Mines name is bob, he likes to eat dogs and break Ox's legs. In his spare time he throws rocks at people and eats a Volkswagen.
OhioSasquatchPatrol
QUOTE(SSLeithead @ Apr 7 2009, 02:04 PM) *
Grover liked the idea of driving because you can cover so much more distance in an evening compaired to hiking.

I have thought about driving the back roads here at night, there are tons of them, but what if you did see a sas? Most likely any pix of film would be worthless, with it being night.



YES, driving at night covers tons of ground, plus you can drive by fields where deer are congregated....I have hopes of catching BF in the act of sneaking up on bambi.

not useless if I Press record on my camcorder, that is hooked up to a NV monocular smile.gif I never go looking without it.

XionComrade
QUOTE(OhioSasquatchPatrol @ Apr 7 2009, 01:54 PM) *
YES, driving at night covers tons of ground, plus you can drive by fields where deer are congregated....I have hopes of catching BF in the act of sneaking up on bambi.

not useless if I Press record on my camcorder, that is hooked up to a NV monocular smile.gif I never go looking without it.



I never even bother, knowing my luck at that time someone would try and snipe it and all it would see is me standing their with a damn camera in my hand...snap goes my neck!

Does anyone else think they don't like cars?
OhioSasquatchPatrol
QUOTE(XionComrade @ Apr 7 2009, 04:02 PM) *
I never even bother, knowing my luck at that time someone would try and snipe it and all it would see is me standing their with a damn camera in my hand...snap goes my neck!

Does anyone else think they don't like cars?



I'm sure they dont like bright, white, lights so yeah they prollie dislike cars. Everytime I've gone out at night I've been instructed to only use the white light-spotlight as a show-stopper, if things get out of hand.

If only we could install red LEDs on our vehichles. lol
XionComrade
QUOTE(OhioSasquatchPatrol @ Apr 7 2009, 02:23 PM) *
I'm sure they dont like bright, white, lights so yeah they prollie dislike cars. Everytime I've gone out at night I've been instructed to only use the white light-spotlight as a show-stopper, if things get out of hand.

If only we could install red LEDs on our vehichles. lol


Lol its a good idea, personally I think the three of us are just going to walk about...Me Smith and Wesson that is.
OhioSasquatchPatrol
QUOTE(XionComrade @ Apr 7 2009, 04:41 PM) *
Lol its a good idea, personally I think the three of us are just going to walk about...Me Smith and Wesson that is.



.44 mag? thumbup.gif
XionComrade
QUOTE(OhioSasquatchPatrol @ Apr 8 2009, 03:09 AM) *
.44 mag? thumbup.gif


629 classic biggrin.gif hell yes. I have a 500 magnum also, but I am looking to SEE a Sasquatch, not shoot it lol...
TooRisky
I have read a couple articles that points to the fact that BF and bears dont get along, they are probably in direct conflict with each other for food. I would look where the bears are not so populated...

Just my humble opinion...

QUOTE(OhioSasquatchPatrol @ Apr 8 2009, 02:09 AM) *
.44 mag? thumbup.gif


QUOTE(XionComrade @ Apr 8 2009, 12:40 PM) *
629 classic biggrin.gif hell yes. I have a 500 magnum also, but I am looking to SEE a Sasquatch, not shoot it lol...


Though I carry a .357mag and a .303British rifle, you are in his backyard, and if they want your hide I dont think you would have time to cock your pistol.
XionComrade
QUOTE(TooRisky @ Apr 12 2009, 06:26 PM) *
I have read a couple articles that points to the fact that BF and bears dont get along, they are probably in direct conflict with each other for food. I would look where the bears are not so populated...

Just my humble opinion...
Though I carry a .357mag and a .303British rifle, you are in his backyard, and if they want your hide I dont think you would have time to cock your pistol.


Oh I agree about the Sasquatch, but bears and crackheads...notsomuch you know!
TooRisky
QUOTE(XionComrade @ Apr 12 2009, 05:29 PM) *
Oh I agree about the Sasquatch, but bears and crackheads...notsomuch you know!


Boy you dont have to sell me on that point, not so much the bear but crackheads and the like... new_lmaosmiley.gif
XionComrade
QUOTE(TooRisky @ Apr 14 2009, 05:48 PM) *
Boy you dont have to sell me on that point, not so much the bear but crackheads and the like... new_lmaosmiley.gif


Lol! So sad and so true!
Catmandu
Google 'fire watch towers' and find something in your area. Many towers are not active due to remote sensing. Some can be rented/leased for a week by the public. There is usually a waiting list. Very popular in the State of Washington.

My point is; do not try running all over the country side. Stay put and watch, listen, learn. Good optical gear for daylight; binoculars, spotting scope, camera. Audio if you are able ( under $100 ). Nightime have audio, spot light with red filter. NVG? Do not try to light up the area with a 'white' spotlight. You will drive everything in the forest way back.
Check it out. You are 'camping' with 360 degree view, hard roof over you, heat, stove, water, wind protection. Take a friend who doesn't play video games. Turn off your cell phone.
Skip-n-Bit
Hey XC!

I like the thought of spending a whole week off squatching...unfortunately time and $$$ won't allow that right now.

One place I'd love to go check back out is Big South Fork Nat'l Park. Went there for a 5 day trip with an ex and we camped off the beaten track/trail and never saw a soul. Didn't see anything "squatchy" either, but we weren't exactly looking for anything like that, either.

During certain seasons, there may be alot of visitors but it seems like most don't leave the main roads/areas, for the most part.

I'll go through my old pix of my trip there, scan them and add them here, if anyone is interested.


Bit

Night Stalker
QUOTE(Skip-n-Bit @ May 9 2009, 12:24 AM) *
Hey XC!

I like the thought of spending a whole week off squatching...unfortunately time and $$$ won't allow that right now.

One place I'd love to go check back out is Big South Fork Nat'l Park. Went there for a 5 day trip with an ex and we camped off the beaten track/trail and never saw a soul. Didn't see anything "squatchy" either, but we weren't exactly looking for anything like that, either.

During certain seasons, there may be alot of visitors but it seems like most don't leave the main roads/areas, for the most part.

I'll go through my old pix of my trip there, scan them and add them here, if anyone is interested.


Bit



The pics from the parks web page look fabulous. When I view all the BF reports and narrow the time line since 2000, there is an impressive number of reports across that southern region. When I clink on the parks klm to view the boundaries of that park, it zooms in to the only obvious place where there's a hole in the map. It's like the anti-BF location. Weird.


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