What's the gig on this Cliff Crook dude? Obviously I suspect he's of questionable reputation and character but does anyone know the real scoop?
Additionally, is there some sort of 'little black book' this board/moderators/users keep of the questionable websites/operators/proponents (not asking about board users unless some of them are using aliases) etc. that we should put little, if any, faith in? Just curious!
"Harry"
Full Version: What's the deal with *****?
QUOTE(HarryHenderson @ Nov 22 2003, 08:42 AM)
Additionally, is there some sort of 'little black book' this board/moderators/users keep of the questionable websites/operators/proponents (not asking about board users unless some of them are using aliases) etc. that we should put little, if any, faith in? Just curious!
We work on the principle that everyone is welcome provided that they don't abuse our trust in them.
We worked very hard to get EB to contribute productively in the forum before we gave up on him.
There are some posting rules, but generally, provided people are polite and courteous, they can stay.
I'm not going to discuss how we keep tabs on the undesirables though (and there are a small number), as that would give them clues on how to get around us.
We even allow RB to post here !
QUOTE(HarryHenderson @ Nov 22 2003, 12:42 AM)
Additionally, is there some sort of 'little black book' this board/moderators/users keep of the questionable websites/operators/proponents (not asking about board users unless some of them are using aliases) etc. that we should put little, if any, faith in? Just curious!
I'll restate. I'm not asking about board USERS but about other websites, weblogs, so called experts, whoevers, whatevers etc.
"Harry"
Who's Carlotta?
QUOTE(HarryHenderson @ Nov 22 2003, 02:42 AM)
What's the gig on this Cliff Crook dude? Obviously I suspect he's of questionable reputation and character but does anyone know the real scoop?
I don't think that he and the BFRO camp are the best of friends!! I doubt they'll have Thanksgiving dinner together..!
I think Crook thinks he is a *bigfoot bigshot* who feels like he has been *upstaged* and outdone by the much more credible and believable Moneymaker and the BFRO group with their much more organized, respected, and advanced investigation efforts...
I received an email from Erik Beckjord, and agreed to post it here.
BFF takes no responsibility for the accuracy of this statement
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I knew Cliff Crook in the 70s and used to get drunk with him in
Bothel,WA. I lived in Seattle and Bellingham.
I learned he was a total fraud and a bluster who carried a gun in case he
got in bar fights. I stopped hanging out with him,
and he started to stalk me. I'd trust nothing from him. Be warned.
"EB"
Bothel,WA. I lived in Seattle and Bellingham.
I learned he was a total fraud and a bluster who carried a gun in case he
got in bar fights. I stopped hanging out with him,
and he started to stalk me. I'd trust nothing from him. Be warned.
"EB"
BFF takes no responsibility for the accuracy of this statement
QUOTE(Paul1968UK @ Nov 23 2003, 02:46 AM)
BFF takes no responsibility for the accuracy of this statement
Good disclaimer.
QUOTE(Howlingmad @ Nov 22 2003, 02:32 PM)
Who's Carlotta?
An arcane (seemingly) reference to one of the plot devices in the Steve Martin movie "Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid", a somewhat forgotten and highly underrated satire, one of my favorites.
There were two lists found that were made by the missing 'cheese mold' scientist, "Friends of Carlotta" and "Enemies of Carlotta", ergo my reference. 
"Harry"
Cliff Crook is a known hoaxer , with more than a few hoaxes under his belt.
I do not trust anything (!!!!!!) that "man" puts out. If he said the sky was blue, i'd have to raise my head and see for myself.
His last name speaks volumes ....
I do not trust anything (!!!!!!) that "man" puts out. If he said the sky was blue, i'd have to raise my head and see for myself.
His last name speaks volumes ....
QUOTE(Paul1968UK @ Nov 23 2003, 12:46 AM)
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I knew Cliff Crook in the 70s and used to get drunk with him in
Bothel,WA. I lived in Seattle and Bellingham.
I learned he was a total fraud and a bluster who carried a gun in case he
got in bar fights. I stopped hanging out with him,
and he started to stalk me. I'd trust nothing from him. Be warned.
"EB"
Bothel,WA. I lived in Seattle and Bellingham.
I learned he was a total fraud and a bluster who carried a gun in case he
got in bar fights. I stopped hanging out with him,
and he started to stalk me. I'd trust nothing from him. Be warned.
"EB"
I feel unclean!
Speaks volumes about the Bothel, Washington bar scene in the '70s... 
QUOTE(HarryHenderson @ Nov 22 2003, 02:42 AM)
Additionally, is there some sort of 'little black book' this board/moderators/users keep of the questionable websites/operators/proponents (not asking about board users unless some of them are using aliases) etc. that we should put little, if any, faith in?
You know ...
I have considered doing just that with my website for a long time now. I just have never done it to avoid hurting certain peoples feelings but this "community" has gotten so damn dysfunctional that I dont really care much anymore ... so maybe I'll go ahead and post a list ... its WAY past time!
QUOTE(GEORGEKARRAS @ Nov 27 2003, 11:41 AM)
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You know ...
I have considered doing just that with my website for a long time now. I just have never done it to avoid hurting certain peoples feelings but this "community" has gotten so damn dysfunctional that I dont really care much anymore ... so maybe I'll go ahead and post a list ... its WAY past time!
You know ...
I have considered doing just that with my website for a long time now. I just have never done it to avoid hurting certain peoples feelings but this "community" has gotten so damn dysfunctional that I dont really care much anymore ... so maybe I'll go ahead and post a list ... its WAY past time!
Please, please, please, please.
Somebody has to do it. For starters I suggest Lansdale and his little dog too. (you know the guy who thought the Cliff Crook photos were the real deal.)
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