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Its a long time since I was here but what I just saw, made me angry and might even by a case for the lawyers.

They took the part of "Legend meets Sience" with Jimmy Chillcut where he states that he put his reputaion on the fact that most of the prints he examined are real. What those guys did to debunk it, was that they took a print of a usual guy blow it up and after taking a cast of the latex "negative" they printed it into some sort of "dirt". That was their proof that Chillcut was wrong and that this way or the other BF is just nonsense.
Now the problems. Neither was this print BF like (underlying bonestructure) nor were the direction of the ridges. Not even talking about lenght, width relation.

I have to state that this show is one of the most influental in germany. Although anybody with just a smal portion of sense realises that they just debunk anything out of hand in a pseudo sientific manner. But its one thing to say UFOs are just comets, if you use the wright footage to debunk, but this is a completly other scale. Specialy as they showed Chillcut as an idiot, indirect stating that he doesnt know what he is talking about.

Maybe someone knows someone from the production company involved and is interessted to know for what purpose there material was used. Chillcut might even have personal things to make clear.

The shows Link:
Galileo Mystery

The Clip itself (their evidence):
Galileo Mystery


By the way the biologist who stated that their fake is an exact BF print is Dr. Mario Ludwig. I cant think that he ever saw what is called a legid BF print. I wonder how they got a "Dr." to make up this crap.
OleE
I'd have to say that the show did a pretty piss poor job blowing the lid off of footprint evidence. It was almost as laughable as that Patterson-Gimlin film reenactment that was done a few years back. Still a good lesson though to those who still think they can convince skeptics with foot-print evidence. They want a body.
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As I was asked for a short synopsis/translation of the online clip, here we go:

At the beginning the presenter asks the biologist if this prints are from a big ape, the biologist replies maybe they are human. Presenters replies, then he would have to wear No. 60 sized shoes. Biologist, not nessecarily but lets try it out.

Then they describe what they are doing.

Narrator (while printing in the mud): The question is, will our print be accepted as real? - Real or fake, it can only be answered by forensic deatails. Using the ridges and scars at the sole, that are different in every lifeform. And this details are there. - Ridges and scars of the human foot were scaled up too. The outcome is a real print of a myth, perfectly faked.

Presenter (looking at the print):
A Bigfoot.

Biologist:
Yes with everything it needs, even ridges.

Presenter:
That means that every evidence for the existence of BF is worthless. The films, the wittness acounts and the print.

Biologist:
Exactly.

FIN


Its sad, but I didnt see the complete episode, the "films" they where talking about is the Memorial Day footage, which they probably debunkt by showing the "Legend meets Sience" part and some investigation into Patty maybe. How they dissmised the wittness acounts I dont know. But as we all know the real problem or evidence are the prints.
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QUOTE(OleE @ Feb 3 2009, 07:34 AM) *
I'd have to say that the show did a pretty piss poor job blowing the lid off of footprint evidence. It was almost as laughable as that Patterson-Gimlin film reenactment that was done a few years back. Still a good lesson though to those who still think they can convince skeptics with foot-print evidence. They want a body.


Yes they did a very poor job. But what made me that angry is that they used parts of "Legend meets Sience". They destroyed the whole sense of the film and with complitly unsientific methods they "debunked" everything. Now, whats that disgusting is that the production people had to watch LmS to cut the parts out, so they had known that their trick wouldnt realy debunk anything. It wasnt arrogant sientific attitude that debunked BF it was simple trikery, nearly fraud!

And by the way this Dr. Mario Ludwig is mostly specialised in insects and such, not primates. Though he wrote a book in 2005 called "Von Drachen, Yetis und Vampiren".
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