QUOTE(norcal logger @ Jan 18 2009, 12:31 PM)

At the risk of suffering the slings and arrows of the entire BF community, where did the idea that "wood knocks" are a BF phenomenon come from? Has anyone ever seen a BF beating a stick against a tree?
Just curious

, Norcal
Hi All,
Just thought I would jump into this interesting thread and add my opinions and humble experiences on wood knocking. My next two sentences might have already been said somewhere on this forum, or elsewhere in the BF community, so I will respectfully quote. " Wood knocking is a known form of communication used by primates ". " It has been heard in association with BF activity, and in some cases, BF sightings ".
I don't know of, or have not read of anyone actually seeing the creature rapping on a tree with a tree branch or rock.
I've personally experienced two wood knocking incidents in the last several years on my outings. The first time, before I ever associated wood knocking with possible BF activity, I clearly heard wood on wood "whacks" , within 100' (I estimate) of where I was sleeping in the back of my vehicle at 4AM, in the Adirondack Park. I heard what seemed like a response to the knocks, in a similar ....one.... and than quick two knock pattern, from a distance down in a boreal bog area. I listened for a while to the exchange, and then scrambled to get to my recording equipment in the back seat. The knocking stopped before I could make a recording, unfortunately. In the morning, I recorded a dawn song of birds, and had a close by Pileated Woodpecker drumming ...which left me thinking... could it have been that...in the dark ?. I walked down the footpath and into the bog to do some bird watching, and heard something crash through the trees and go up a hill into the woods on the east end of the bog. Whatever it was really make alot of noise and got out of the bog fast, as maybe I had startled it when I walked down. Maybe a moose or a big deer, or even a bear ? Scanning the area with binoculars, turned up nothing.
The second incident was last October (hundreds of miles away from the Adirondacks), at first light. This time I was set up, and did make a recording of more wood knocks, coming from several locations in a pine forested valley and creek area. Again, the sound was sharp whacks.... like wood on wood. Of note...myself and my camping partner were doing some wood knocking of our own, and owl calling, next to our campfire, around 5 hours before I made the recording. Strangely enough, there was a Pileated Woodpecker (again !) in the area.... a while later, that I saw at breakfast. This caused me to have to compare the recorded wood knocks to a recording I made of the drumming Pileated, and isolate the sounds with my audio editing software. The sounds were not really similar. I can say with certainty,after listening to the sounds many times, that the wood knocks were not made by the Pileated.
Can I say the wood knocks were made by a BF ? ......no, I can't be certain of that. I can only ponder what kind of a woodland critter can produce this kind of sound

, and I've come up with nothing, yet . Something or someone with a set of hands, I'm thinking, that can grasp a piece of wood . Strange acting people running around a remote, thick, dark habitat, at night ?...unlikely, but still possible. Trees that make their own whacking or popping sounds, on a calm still night ?
I can say that the areas I heard the wood knocks are worthy of further research, which I did not do at the time, but am planning to return to and investigate, this season. Just my take on the topic....and I do plan on replying, should I hear it again.
Bill R.