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pegleg52
Rethinking Mary Green's Work
by Loren Coleman (no login)

Rethinking Mary Green's Work

On Friday, Dec 27, 2002, at 11:57 am, on the Bigfoot list, I mentioned,
along with Chester Moore's and Vance Orchard's new books, a forthcoming work
would soon be out. That book was "50 Years with Bigfoot: Tennessee
Chronicles of Co-Existence" by Mary Alayne Green and Janice Carter Coy.
During most of January 2003, the Bigfoot list and others debated the
Green-Coy book. To some it seemed fantastic that a family could have lived
so close to a group of undiscovered hairy hominoids for so long. Other
skeptics asked why in fifty years had no one taken any photographs. Others
supported the findings, and for the few that traveled to the farm, evidence
was easily found in this eastern location for the long term existence of
this local band of Bigfoot.

Those that remember all this recall it as a time when I said little but
fostered an open discussion of this book. Some people read my quiet
incorrectly and thought they knew my feelings about that book, thinking I
did not like the essence of their treatment. However, if you look back at
the Bigfoot list archives you will see that I asked a reflective question of
the skeptics on January 17, 2003, that was, are "there any photographs of
Bigfoot - other than frame images pulled from the Patterson-Gimlin footage -
that exist?" Why should Green-Coy be held to a higher standard than every
other researcher who has encountered Bigfoot or had lengthy contact with
them, I wondered.

While the self-published nature and uneven editing of the book may be
difficult for some to take, I think it is time to look beyond the initial
reactions that some had to "50 Years with Bigfoot: Tennessee Chronicles of
Co-Existence." I have a sense that we are coming into a time in which close
and remarkable examinations like that of Mary Alayne Green's and Janice
Carter's will be re-viewed as having tidbits of important information and
details about the basic behaviors and lifestyles of some of these unknown
hairy hominoids. Thom Powell's new 2003 book, "The Locals" is another facet
of this effort, which extends some of the close-to-the-ground revelations of
such books as Jan Klement's "The Creature: Personal Experiences with
Bigfoot" (1976) to the modern era. The Green-Coy book belongs in this
subsection of the Bigfoot library too.

It is time for a rethinking of "50 Years with Bigfoot: Tennessee Chronicles
of Co-Existence." It contains much you may find incredible, but within it,
there are truths that assist the quest. I recommend it be open-mindedly
considered as a work worth your time.

Sincerely,
Loren Coleman
http://www.lorencoleman.com



Posted on Nov 14, 2003, 6:52 PM
from IP address 24.198.18.32

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jrp1965
There is not that something to consider.
SkunkHunter
Yoda?
jimf
huh.gif and just when I thought I had it figured out......along comes another grand-mal WTF ????
jimf
QUOTE(SkunkHunter @ Nov 14 2003, 11:21 PM)
Yoda?

Updated for the new century..." Luke...Who's your daddy ??!!?? " laugh.gif
StacyInMI
QUOTE(jrp1965 @ Nov 14 2003, 11:20 PM)
There is not that something to consider.

ahhhh...ummm......WHAT?????
RayG
QUOTE(SkunkHunter @ Nov 14 2003, 10:21 PM)
Yoda?

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OH MY GOD!!!! The combination of your avatar and that one word comment had me splitting a gut here!!!

Cracked me up good!! icon_really_happy_guy.gif

Thanks SH.. :lamo:

RayG
RayG
QUOTE(pegleg52 @ Nov 14 2003, 09:48 PM)
...for the few that traveled to the farm, evidence was easily found in this eastern location for the long term existence of
this local band of Bigfoot.

Only got two things to say:

1. These few visitors must be easily impressed. (I can't bring myself to call them 'researchers').

2. What musical instruments they playing?

RayG
Quake
"It is time for a rethinking of "50 Years with Bigfoot: Tennessee Chronicles
of Co-Existence.""

To me, the implication of this statement is that he does not discount this wild a**ed story.....???? blink.gif
Painthorse
Only comment I have on that is............... new_thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif icon_bang.gif
bipto
QUOTE(jrp1965 @ Nov 14 2003, 10:20 PM)
There is not that something to consider.

No, it's not worth stopping to consider (or reconsider) the claims in the book. If John Green wrote an email like that, I'd feel bad that he'd fianlly gone round the bend, but I wouldn't reconsider my opinion of the book or those who wrote it.
Squatchwatch
I am absolutely amazed and at a loss for words by Loren's posting. He did this shortly after MG openly posted on her forum accusations of Loren spreading rumors about her and stealing information from her posts to use in his own site.
Now, some yahoo on her site is suggesting that Loren do an endorsement for her next book?!? Maybe Loren feels that this will make him a shoo-in to receive a password for MG's site when it goes private? It appears that credibility is no longer an important issue in the field of CZ. new_withstupidsmiley.gif
Spork77
Let Loren find out for himself, if he is really attempting to endorse Mary and her fold. After a few weeks of trudging through the endless sycophantic posts on that board he'll wish his mother never met his father. There will be a falling out in that potential relationship sooner than later. I seriously doubt Mary would be able to step in and suddenly co-op this entire incident(s) and claim it to be under her control and domain. Besides, the government shooters in the area won't let her get that close. new_whistle.gif
Quake
Even though I dont' agree with him on this particular opinion..... I still think he is a very respectable guy.....

In my opinoin........
RobUstes
I think now is an appropriate time to restate my position on the Media Master of Cryptozoology .....

Loren Cole icon_abduct.gif man

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Loren icon_abduct.gif Coleman

When Loren talks, people with a brain ... new_sleepysmileyanim.gif

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okokok, i SHOULD say something nice .... here it goes ... *ahem*

At least he's not Mary Green ......

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jimf
So..uhhh..what are you trying to say Rob.? wink.gif
RobUstes
QUOTE(jimf @ Nov 15 2003, 05:06 PM)
So..uhhh..what are you trying to say Rob.? wink.gif

new_whistle.gif Ooooh ... nuthin ....

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jimf
...I don't think hes been abducted...not sayin its a bad idea... new_whistle.gif
Medic 410
If not abducted.

Hatched from a pod? Invasion of the body snatchers style.
jimf
QUOTE(Loren Coleman)
November 15, 2003
Dead Campbell County Critters? - A Status Update

Positive Possibles
The update on the La Follette, Tennessee situation (which involved several investigators as of Friday) is this: Yes, a dead goat was found but it has been buried by the owners. These locals are not interested in turning it over to investigators for DNA analysis, yet. Yes, other animals have been moved. Yes, NApe sightings have occurred. Yes, gunfire has been verified near La Follette but the Sheriff's deputies are denying it was from them. And, yes, this all happened this week.

Negative Notions
No dead NApe bodies have been discovered. And there is no design involving individuals Chris Dotson, John Placyk, or Mary Green to leak any on-going confidential investigative information. No incidents have occurred in which Loren Coleman or BFRO folks or government agents have flown in and extracted out an ape, NApe, or Bigfoot body. (Seriously, you cannot imagine what conspiracies I've heard about.)

Investigative Items
Maybe, local law enforcement personnel conducted an unofficial, casual cover-up related to actual figures on the volume of sightings and the number of dead livestock found. Maybe, one car crash involving a NApe happened. New details about this active cryptid flap continue to be revealed. Investigation of the total matter is on-going, but do not look for any earth-shaking breaking news.

Specific names of eyewitnesses, law enforcers, media, and other locals interviewed are on file. Same goes for the monikers of goats and cats too. They all will become part of the full written history of the case, after it moves from active to inactive.

The unfolding events reflect patterns in the typical southeastern NApe accounts. Please see Chapter 11 in BIGFOOT!
Have at it. new_whistle.gif
belleoftheball
(went to dork forum)

Loren Coleman.new_thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

ohmy.gif The story is back up on him stealing Film from Peter Byrne. Looks like
he going after him on M.G. account. Wonder what his up too on that one unsure.gif
Painthorse
Don't ya just love the ending to L/C's post "The unfolding of events reflect patterns in the typical s/e Nape accounts. Please see chapter 11 in BIGFOOT!" Guess you got to buy the book to see what those accounts are. Gotta plug em books. new_thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
JonZ
Never been a big LC fan. Will skip the book also.

Jon new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif
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