windows2010
Nov 11 2009, 04:40 PM
I wouldn’t say that the article or measurements in Scientriffic rule out other animals. It was written by a scientist but it doesn’t paint a pretty picture of Bigfoot. In fact, it writes off the Patterson video as a hoax. It only gives footprints, eyewitness sightings and the size of the Jacobs creature a slight chance as real encounters and doesn’t consider any of it as proof. I believe that’s why it hasn’t had a big following in the Bigfoot community.
GrapeApe
Nov 11 2009, 04:45 PM
Needs those red circles.
windows2010
Nov 11 2009, 04:51 PM
I'm not with the red circles either, I stand with the science side of Bigfoot until someone proves that it “is” or “is not” real. As far as this Jacobs creature I lean towards primate side and not necessarily Sasquatch.
wickie
Nov 11 2009, 08:06 PM
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COGrizzly
Nov 11 2009, 10:12 PM
QUOTE(wickie @ Nov 11 2009, 07:06 PM)

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wickie - Seems you have been changin your posting style?!? (Not just this post) Don't get me wrong, loved yer style before, but I am just lettin' Ya know I've noticed.
Edited to add - and I think Jaylee noticed it first.
RedRatSnake
Nov 11 2009, 11:55 PM
Hi
LMAO Peace
Tim ~
wickie
Nov 12 2009, 07:15 AM
QUOTE(COGrizzly @ Nov 11 2009, 08:12 PM)

wickie - Seems you have been changin your posting style?!?
Must be the weather change!
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JayleeD
Nov 12 2009, 07:43 AM
Wickie, you're wicked!
masterbarber
Nov 12 2009, 07:52 AM
QUOTE(george42 @ Nov 8 2009, 09:49 PM)

Little bit. Maybe its just twisted funny. I have read that they sometimes do stand with their paws like that, but i have no citation.

Other thing to keep in mind, as i recall from the daytime shots, this site is on a bit of a slope, so that explais why the thing is leaning at a funny angle, its tying to stay upright. Might be wrong about that.

This is a simiar pose with a mangy bear. Just imagine him on aslight tilt so he has one leg out for bracing on a slight slope. Or cause he/she is standing over a cub..
WOW, I think you just solved the Dogman mystery!
Teresa
Nov 12 2009, 12:18 PM
The Jacobs' photos and dogman mystery solved in one post. Nice going George. Now what are we going to talk about?
Flashman
Nov 12 2009, 12:29 PM
QUOTE(masterbarber @ Nov 12 2009, 08:52 AM)

WOW, I think you just solved the Dogman mystery!
That's a point, you mean that one that took roadkill from a pickup?
1Sean
Nov 12 2009, 02:27 PM
Nothing was solved unless that's a lost game camera photo taken from Pennsylvania in 2007.
masterbarber
Nov 12 2009, 03:43 PM
QUOTE(Flashman @ Nov 12 2009, 01:29 PM)

That's a point, you mean that one that took roadkill from a pickup?
Just referring to some of the "dogman" or "wolf faced" creature reports in general. If a bear like this was seen, whether standing on it's hind legs or not, I think there's significant potential for mis-identification from your average Joe. Hell, I'm looking at the photo and I wouldn't immediately think Bear and certainly not if I'd only gotten a quick glance. JMO
1Sean
Nov 12 2009, 03:57 PM
It couldn’t be the same thing the top of the head is different, it’s not as hairy and there are no South American brown bears in Pennsylvania. The Jacobs creature still looks more like the chimp photo and it wouldn’t explain the class B incidents reported in the area of the sighting.
Furious_George
Nov 12 2009, 04:52 PM
I'm not sure if this was said yet.... probably was because it's obvious..... I feel a little stupid saying it because I'm sure it has been pointed out several million times with red circles but I'll say it again anyway....................... it has small feet.
Bigfoot is supposed to have big feet. When I was a juvenile, my feet were as big or almost as big as they are now.
1Sean
Nov 12 2009, 05:22 PM
Dr. Meldrum said the developmental trajectories have not been determined yet for the feet of a Sasquatch. They’re going to need more pictures from all the growth stages in its life. I couldn’t imagine a mother Sasquatch giving birth to something with gigantic feet.
Redwolf
Nov 12 2009, 06:21 PM
Why not? The head is much worse than the feet. The feet are quite flexible when the infant is pushed out of the birth canal. The head? Not so much.
masterbarber
Nov 12 2009, 06:32 PM
QUOTE(Furious_George @ Nov 12 2009, 05:52 PM)

I'm not sure if this was said yet.... probably was because it's obvious..... I feel a little stupid saying it because I'm sure it has been pointed out several million times with red circles but I'll say it again anyway....................... it has small feet.
Bigfoot is supposed to have big feet. When I was a juvenile, my feet were as big or almost as big as they are now.
It's a Bear dude..........
1Sean
Nov 12 2009, 06:40 PM
QUOTE(Redwolf @ Nov 12 2009, 07:21 PM)

Why not? The head is much worse than the feet. The feet are quite flexible when the infant is pushed out of the birth canal. The head? Not so much.
If that’s true it’s probably convenient for the mothers, they could sit their young on the ground and never have to worry about them falling over. Then when they needed rocking they could push their foreheads back and let go.
Carolina_Dog
Nov 12 2009, 07:55 PM
QUOTE(1Sean @ Nov 12 2009, 06:40 PM)

If that’s true it’s probably convenient for the mothers, they could sit their young on the ground and never have to worry about them falling over. Then when they needed rocking they could push their foreheads back and let go.
If that's true??? Do you think it may not be true?
wickie
Nov 12 2009, 08:00 PM
QUOTE(Carolina_Dog @ Nov 12 2009, 05:55 PM)

If that's true??? Do you think it may not be true?
If he was "pooping" a pumpkin, he would know
1Sean
Nov 12 2009, 08:15 PM
QUOTE(Carolina_Dog @ Nov 12 2009, 08:55 PM)

If that's true??? Do you think it may not be true?
It would not be true if that was true because it truly doesn't look like the true size of a true full grown adult, and that's the truth.
wickie
Nov 12 2009, 08:20 PM
QUOTE(1Sean @ Nov 12 2009, 06:15 PM)

It would not be true if that was true because it truly doesn't look like the true size of a true full grown adult, and that's the truth.
Your'e killin' me Mak
Spazmo
Nov 12 2009, 09:08 PM
Gigantofootecus
Nov 12 2009, 09:52 PM
As Wolftrax alluded to, what is a chimp doing licking salt in the dark? Apes don't have night vision. You then have to make the leap that this is a bigfoot, that has night vision, and not a chimp. This can't be just an ape, this must be a bigfoot. A young bigfoot that doesn't stand up. At least not for the camera. According to Apeman, apes don't have the flexibility in their lower spines that this animal displays. Bears do tho. And there were bears in the vicinity. Do apes follow bears around, at night? You have to ask yourself is it possible for a bear to look like this? If you say..well maybe..then it's a bear. The odds are heavily against it being a bigfoot.
wickie
Nov 12 2009, 09:53 PM
QUOTE(1Sean @ Nov 12 2009, 12:27 PM)

Nothing was solved unless that's a lost game camera photo taken from Pennsylvania in 2007.
Found it!
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RedRatSnake
Nov 12 2009, 09:56 PM
Hi
Perhaps it was one of this guys family members ~ ?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Picture removed ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Can be located here, Mail me with any questions ~
http://www.flickr.com/photos/44495085@N06/4101781454/ Peace
Tim
wickie
Nov 12 2009, 10:00 PM
Kudos Timmy Boy!
That was one of the rare occasions that made me gag on my coffee and say "WTF???????"
Teresa
Nov 12 2009, 11:02 PM
ape with serious mange?
Spazmo
Nov 12 2009, 11:15 PM
QUOTE(RedRatSnake @ Nov 12 2009, 07:56 PM)

Hi
Perhaps it was one of this guys family members ~ ?
Peace
Tim

WTF IS THAT???
Please tell me that's not a person. It looks like a chimp with no hair, but what about that tail?
Gawd, if this is a malformed human being I'm going to be sick...
Redwolf
Nov 12 2009, 11:28 PM
That's pretty nasty looking.

Maybe next time you post something like that Tim, you could give a little header and warning so that it doesn't pop up in front of kids. I told them it was a ape with mange, but I doubt the image will leave their heads any time soon.
Furious_George
Nov 12 2009, 11:30 PM
QUOTE(masterbarber @ Nov 12 2009, 07:32 PM)

It's a Bear dude..........
I know it's a bear. Maybe I didn't say it right.

I do that often.
1Sean
Nov 13 2009, 02:45 PM

Everybody tried so hard to throw bears faces on it that it ended up with two faces. One has an ear formed by background sticks and neither one have eye shine or look like a bears face up close.
Huckle^Buck
Nov 13 2009, 05:37 PM
QUOTE(1Sean @ Nov 13 2009, 02:45 PM)


Everybody tried so hard to throw bears faces on it that it ended up with two faces. One has an ear formed by background sticks and neither one have eye shine or look like a bears face up close.
Not to mention everyone steers away from 20:32:05 because they can't explain it. I have yet to see the imaginary bear face drawn on that one. You are right about the eyeshine. Thats the number one thing I notice. It's very obvious and easy to see in the actual photos of the bear cubs, but the ones that everyone has drawn imaginary faces on, have ZERO eyeshine. Some will say it's there but it's not. Or they say that the "bear" had his eyes closed. I love to here that one. Has anyone ever even seen a trail camera photo in which an animal had it's eyes closed??

There might be some out there, but I have never seen one.
1Sean
Nov 13 2009, 05:54 PM
Then there's that so-called tail it's also claimed to be the left shoulder of a forward facing bear with the rear to the tree. The juvenile camp calls it genitals and has a picture that’s a little clearer than this one. It's still not clear enough to call it anything to me.
Carolina_Dog
Nov 13 2009, 06:05 PM
The left rear foot is that of a bear.
1Sean
Nov 13 2009, 06:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTerdQWLGa4And this woman thinks it's a chimp, for a grand total of three different opinions.
Huckle^Buck
Nov 13 2009, 06:32 PM
QUOTE(Carolina_Dog @ Nov 13 2009, 06:05 PM)

The left rear foot is that of a bear.
In
that pic I will admit that the foot at that time does look like a bear's paw. BUT---AGAIN____ What about 20:32:05?? No one can explain how the "bear" looks like a monkey in that one. What exactly is the "bear" doing in that photo? I have seen the explanations for the other pics-----but not that one.
1Sean
Nov 13 2009, 06:39 PM
Click to view attachmentIt is pretty hard to explain that one, this was the best body/terrain overlay match up I've seen. It's not a Sasquatch to Sasquatch comparison but it was something from the primate family.
QUOTE(Sasquatchamo Joe @ Mar 2 2009, 03:25 PM)

Click to view attachmentLet me try that picture again I'm new at this.
I guess if you want to see it you have to click the little arrow, strange.
wickie
Nov 13 2009, 07:02 PM
Sasquachamo Joe? Man I forgot about that one
1Sean
Nov 13 2009, 07:36 PM
I wonder what it would be like if the tables were turned and we were accustomed to seeing an abundance of Sasquatch, or bears were thought to be nonexistent by most. Would our interpretations of these photos change?
wickie
Nov 13 2009, 07:41 PM
QUOTE(1Sean @ Nov 13 2009, 05:36 PM)

I wonder what it would be like if the tables were turned and we were accustomed to seeing an abundance of Sasquatch, or bears were thought to be nonexistent by most. Would our interpretations of these photos change?
Interesting question, but....... bears are proven, sassy no. I don't like playing the "what if..." game.
1Sean
Nov 13 2009, 08:32 PM
Very true, it probably wouldn't have been questioned by anyone though.
Bushwakker
Dec 12 2009, 04:43 PM
This photo makes me almost ashamed to admit that I research for evidence of bigfoot. Even if it were an actual picture of BF, there is so much evidence that says bear (Which I have absolutely no doubt it is) that any reseacher worth a dime should disgard it.
The only organization that claims it to be real is more of a bigfoot fan club that a research organization and they paid for the photo. Mr. Jacobs, I'm sure laughed all the way to the bank because I'm sure he knows what it is as well. I don't know why I am so passionate about this, but I wish I could debate this photo in front of a judge and totally embarrass the organization exploiting the children that believe the BS.
OK, I'm done.
Furious_George
Dec 12 2009, 05:57 PM
haha welcome to the forum and I agree.
colstonewall1
Dec 12 2009, 06:01 PM
QUOTE(RedRatSnake @ Nov 12 2009, 11:56 PM)

Hi
Perhaps it was one of this guys family members ~ ?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Picture removed ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Can be located here, Mail me with any questions ~
http://www.flickr.com/photos/44495085@N06/4101781454/ Peace
Tim
Uh yeah Tim, what is that? I'm not gonna ask how you came across that pic, I don't think I wanna know, LOL.
Several people have asked, are you gonna tell us? Or do you know what it is???
LOL, dang, I CANNOT get that outta my mind, ugghhh!!!
RedRatSnake
Dec 12 2009, 06:57 PM
Hi
You got Mail ~

Peace
Tim
AlbertaSasquatch
Dec 12 2009, 07:40 PM
Can you send me some mail too Tim because that is just way to freaky. I lean towards human, but the feet look more apelike.
plaidlemur
Dec 12 2009, 07:50 PM
I'm fairly certain that pic that RRS posted was from that freaky art exhibit of the half man/half dog creatures. Absolutely fascinating and stomach turning sculptures.
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