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Elusive Ape
Can anyone provide information about habituation sites?

Have any been successful? What did the researchers experience?
gigantor
QUOTE(Elusive Ape @ Dec 15 2008, 10:55 PM) *
Can anyone provide information about habituation sites?

Have any been successful? What did the researchers experience?


While I'm extremely skeptical about it, and simply don't believe most of the claims, if you're interested in this topic, I recommend you read "The Locals" by Thom Powell.

He was an investigator for the BFRO from the beginning and wrote a book about his research, which focused on habituation.
bluforMD
QUOTE(gigantor @ Dec 16 2008, 07:07 PM) *
While I'm extremely skeptical about it, and simply don't believe most of the claims, if you're interested in this topic, I recommend you read "The Locals" by Thom Powell.

He was an investigator for the BFRO from the beginning and wrote a book about his research, which focused on habituation.


What are his credentials (out of curiosity)? Take it as a literal question, no hidden meanings - I see that the BFRO has lost popularity with some folks, just wanted to clarify my question.
georgerm
Powell's book was really interesting.
Bobby Orangeboom
http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?showtopic=24319
gigantor
QUOTE(bluforMD @ Dec 16 2008, 09:05 PM) *
What are his credentials (out of curiosity)? Take it as a literal question, no hidden meanings - I see that the BFRO has lost popularity with some folks, just wanted to clarify my question.


Well, I got his book right here, lemme see... ummm from the back cover...

"Thom Powell is a science teacher in Oregon. He has been investigating the local bigfoot phenomenon in Clackamas county, Oregon since 1986. He joined the BFRO in 1999, and was the regional coordinator and a curator of BFRO from 1999-2003. He is a member of the IBS and a presenter at their annual symposium since 2001."


This book was published in 2003 and Powell was with the BFRO during the "good days", before the eco-tourism camping trips began. He was involved with the Skookum cast, etc.

I say again, I'm not endorsing any of the claims made in the book, simply making a book recommendation to Elusive Ape (and anyone else) who is interested in the subject.

I will say that Powell presented some interesting ideas once you get past some of the nonsense. New ideas at the time, I think he was the first one to present them, at least in a published book.

For example, he talks about "landscaping for sasquatches" and such.
gigantor
Forgot to add that at the time, Powell had a project with video cameras that could be accessed remotely. I think the project page is still available on BFRO:

http://www.bfro.net/avevid/remote

Click on "interesting images captured to date".

So even though Powell doesn't have a PhD or anything, he's done some pretty cool field work. I think it was his idea to "bait" BF by leaving fresh fruit in the middle of a pond, this lead to the skookum cast.
norcal logger
QUOTE(Elusive Ape @ Dec 15 2008, 10:55 PM) *
Can anyone provide information about habituation sites?


I'm having a real hard time with the word "habituation" in this context. Did you mean "habitation"? I'm not trying to be argumentative, it's just that if it really is "habituation" then this is quite the topic!

Have fun, Norcal
hopeful
I've wondered that before, too, NL. But I do think the word is actually "habituation."
damndirtyape
Before habituation could be termed successful, I would think that provisioned sites must have been employed and evidence collected proving that it was indeed the animal sought out and lured in. This evidence could be non-location specific, protecting the animals and ongoing research from invading "claim jumpers", but I have seen nothing indicating this... except for the claims surrounding the Kentucky video.

I had some slight involvement with a couple of families who thought they were being visited regularly by a Bigfoot. I saw no evidence supporting the claims even though they valiantly attempted to lure them in closer for pictures. I took this to mean that the animals, if they were actually there, were leery of anything out of place, but disguising equipment even further did not produce any results either. So I had to come to the conclusion that they were only present psychologically. There was in fact more evidence for that than the other option.
norcal logger
QUOTE(hopeful @ Dec 17 2008, 08:41 PM) *
I've wondered that before, too, NL. But I do think the word is actually "habituation."


Thanks Hopeful, so now I guess my question is whether the BFs or the researchers are being habituated at these sites. I haven't seen this word used enough so as to put it in context within this thread so I have to ask what may appear to be dumb questions. Thanks, Norcal

Thanks DDA, I get the picture clearly now.

Have fun, Norcal

Wow, I don't know what I did but the above was supposed to be two posts. While I was writing my first post DDA answered my question so I wrote a second post to say "thanks" and they both came out together. Weird, of course this is the BIGFOOT forums.
billgreen2005bigfoot
this is definetly a very informative thread to keep track of sasquatch activity in usa & canada forests swamps updates as it continues... thanks bill iagree.gif
hopeful
Yes, it is, Bill. BF habituation is such a fascinating subject to me. What are the alleged habituation projects? And where can one read about them?

I know of Thom Powell's book, The Locals.
Then there's, of course, Jan Coy's book, 50 Years with Bigfoot.
I've heard of the Kentucy video, but I haven't yet learned much about it.
There's the new Impossible Visits DVD. I think it discusses multiple sites. But how many and which ones?
billgreen2005bigfoot
hey hopeful i was thinking about getting that new documentary called impossible visits dvd soon or for my birthday or near future ty for the above reply to me. good afternoon bill new_specool.gif
hopeful
QUOTE(hopeful @ Dec 18 2008, 11:32 AM) *
...I've heard of the Kentucy video, but I haven't yet learned much about it.
...

You're welcome, Bill.


Oh! Kentucy video - Now I know, that's the pumkin headed thing with the pancakes, right?
Bobby Orangeboom
QUOTE(hopeful @ Dec 18 2008, 12:32 PM) *
Yes, it is, Bill. BF habituation is such a fascinating subject to me. What are the alleged habituation projects? And where can one read about them?

I know of Thom Powell's book, The Locals.
Then there's, of course, Jan Coy's book, 50 Years with Bigfoot.
I've heard of the Kentucy video, but I haven't yet learned much about it.
There's the new Impossible Visits DVD. I think it discusses multiple sites. But how many and which ones?


From what i've learned, there's a Book too out on January & the Habituation Locations are NC ( Ammi ), Upstate NY ( The People/Girl who were having a Sighting on a Talkshow Live ?? ), 2 seperate Texas Locations , Oklahoma & some KS activity which can be read about below...

http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?showtopic=23949
billgreen2005bigfoot
hey bobby gm wow thats definetly very informative above reply indeed. thanks bill smile.gif
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