This is interesting and could help prove to disbelievers that Bigfoot does whistle and make other vocalizatins. It can also maybe help us understand Bigfoots behaviour and aid in communication and luring a bigfoot in for a photo...
How about recording these Orangutan's whistles and use it for bait?
http://www.physorg.com/news148226438.html
Full Version: Orangutan's spontanious whistling shocks scientists
Does bigfoot whistle though? I thought it was more of a woop than a whistle.
There is wide documentation of supposed bigfoot whistling. Somehow this observation in orangs. does not surprise me at all. Just amazed it took so
long to make such an observation. There is hope that Bigfoot can be heard and seen doing similar things. Thanks for sharing the link Grinder
long to make such an observation. There is hope that Bigfoot can be heard and seen doing similar things. Thanks for sharing the link Grinder
Just saw this on Henry Mays blog..very interesting. I tell ya,this is a very good discovery for all of us bigfoot enthusiasts. The Sierra Sounds just may get a look from mainstream science...very,very interesting article. How many times have we all heard the whistles that people have recorded around supposed sasquatch habitat? I think this is fascinating news.
While the whoops and moans are more common,many have recorded and reported whistle sounds during sasquatch encounters. I think several whistles were on the famous Sierra Sounds Cd. This should definitely raise some eyebrows.
QUOTE(SKM @ Dec 15 2008, 08:37 PM) 
Does bigfoot whistle though? I thought it was more of a woop than a whistle.
While the whoops and moans are more common,many have recorded and reported whistle sounds during sasquatch encounters. I think several whistles were on the famous Sierra Sounds Cd. This should definitely raise some eyebrows.
Listen to this!! I think this is amazing news for sasquatch enthusiasts! Listen to this guy whistle...got this from the blogsquatcher. This sounds eerily familiar!
http://www.eurekalert.org/multimedia/pub/1...php?from=127244
http://www.eurekalert.org/multimedia/pub/1...php?from=127244
WOW! that does sound alot like a Bigfoot whistle. It doesn't have the high pitch or volume (but it's not in the wild either), but dang that is close.
I wonder if a guy could get some more recordings of these Orang whistles and do some call blasting in known hotspots.
The best would be to do it form a hunting blind configuration over a span of several days. I would suggest 2 people to take turns watching. They should not leave the Blind once it is built so that there is less disturbance in the forrest, and so that the wildlife can get used to the blind. The blind should be set up next to a meadow with a good supply of water/swamp that has fair amount of edible berry bushes and game trails. The blind should be heavily camoflauged with a good sight plain, preferably 360 degrees. Several Reconyx-RC60-HO trail cams should be mounted stratigically to cover the area.
Tuna cans with puncture holes in the lid to allow the smell to float on the breeze should be hung in numbers in the trees near the tail cams as additonal bait.
Since Bigfoot is most active at dusk and into the wee hours of the morning, this would be the best time for the call blasting and the occupents full attention.
I wonder if a guy could get some more recordings of these Orang whistles and do some call blasting in known hotspots.
The best would be to do it form a hunting blind configuration over a span of several days. I would suggest 2 people to take turns watching. They should not leave the Blind once it is built so that there is less disturbance in the forrest, and so that the wildlife can get used to the blind. The blind should be set up next to a meadow with a good supply of water/swamp that has fair amount of edible berry bushes and game trails. The blind should be heavily camoflauged with a good sight plain, preferably 360 degrees. Several Reconyx-RC60-HO trail cams should be mounted stratigically to cover the area.
Tuna cans with puncture holes in the lid to allow the smell to float on the breeze should be hung in numbers in the trees near the tail cams as additonal bait.
Since Bigfoot is most active at dusk and into the wee hours of the morning, this would be the best time for the call blasting and the occupents full attention.
QUOTE(SKM @ Dec 15 2008, 06:37 PM)
Does bigfoot whistle though? I thought it was more of a woop than a whistle.
My first experience was with two subjects (one north of us and one south of us) that were whistling back and forth. Two whistles from the south and then answered by two whistles to the north.
After that night I spend quite some time listening to bird and mammal sounds trying to identify the sounds I heard that night.
It was when I listened to a part of the Sierra Sounds and heard a similar whistle on there.
And boy oh boy that Oranutan does have some similar sound as well.
interesting
QUOTE(Grinder @ Dec 16 2008, 12:05 AM)
WOW! that does sound alot like a Bigfoot whistle. It doesn't have the high pitch or volume (but it's not in the wild either), but dang that is close.
Come on Grinder, nobody has ever seen a bigfoot whistle before; therefore, we don't know what a bigfoot whistle sounds like, even if they do indeed whistle; which is questionable.
Sound evidence is the weakest kind of evidence IMO. There are countless animals that could make similar sounds, so without eyes on lips with ears wide open, it's all speculation and wishful thinking.
this is a very informative & inportant new thread. i hope we see more opinions about issue. thanks bill 
My opinion is that the orang. video linked to youtube shows the orang. slightly crossing his eyes while he tries to
belt one out, whistle that is. Gotta' love it, tuba lessons are next for this guy, better pucker up.
belt one out, whistle that is. Gotta' love it, tuba lessons are next for this guy, better pucker up.
Well, I for one do believe that the Sasquatches can whistle and the Orangutan helps support my belief.
Hey, I'm WITH you there Grinder, just got to put up with my nonsensical comments cause I like to have fun to.
QUOTE(Grinder @ Dec 15 2008, 09:05 PM)
WOW! that does sound alot like a Bigfoot whistle. It doesn't have the high pitch or volume (but it's not in the wild either), but dang that is close.
I wonder if a guy could get some more recordings of these Orang whistles and do some call blasting in known hotspots.
The best would be to do it form a hunting blind configuration over a span of several days. I would suggest 2 people to take turns watching. They should not leave the Blind once it is built so that there is less disturbance in the forrest, and so that the wildlife can get used to the blind. The blind should be set up next to a meadow with a good supply of water/swamp that has fair amount of edible berry bushes and game trails. The blind should be heavily camoflauged with a good sight plain, preferably 360 degrees. Several Reconyx-RC60-HO trail cams should be mounted stratigically to cover the area.
Tuna cans with puncture holes in the lid to allow the smell to float on the breeze should be hung in numbers in the trees near the tail cams as additonal bait.
Since Bigfoot is most active at dusk and into the wee hours of the morning, this would be the best time for the call blasting and the occupents full attention.
I wonder if a guy could get some more recordings of these Orang whistles and do some call blasting in known hotspots.
The best would be to do it form a hunting blind configuration over a span of several days. I would suggest 2 people to take turns watching. They should not leave the Blind once it is built so that there is less disturbance in the forrest, and so that the wildlife can get used to the blind. The blind should be set up next to a meadow with a good supply of water/swamp that has fair amount of edible berry bushes and game trails. The blind should be heavily camoflauged with a good sight plain, preferably 360 degrees. Several Reconyx-RC60-HO trail cams should be mounted stratigically to cover the area.
Tuna cans with puncture holes in the lid to allow the smell to float on the breeze should be hung in numbers in the trees near the tail cams as additonal bait.
Since Bigfoot is most active at dusk and into the wee hours of the morning, this would be the best time for the call blasting and the occupents full attention.
Your plan sounds interesting and would be worthwhile. One important factor would be to get into a recent hot spot with solid sightings. I think a human whistle can be used to mimic a BFs once you have heard one.
We just had a sighting in our area that has several previous reports.
Where are you located?
My wife and I heard a faint whistle just as we were leaving a remote area northeast of Coquille along Middle Creek. I answered and after a semilong pause a reply came back. This went back and forth several times. My wife said it was kid in the woods. There was a forest home down over a steep bluff and it was getting dark so I ruled out a kid. I did not think it was a kid since the reply whistle was painfully long in coming that indicated a cautious, patient animal. The whistle was similar to the Orang's but went from low to high and was slightly louder but by no means easy to hear. The Orang's whisle sounds like one I make when blowing into cupped hands between the thumbs that makes a hollow sound.
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gigantor
Come on Grinder, nobody has ever seen a bigfoot whistle before; therefore, we don't know what a bigfoot whistle sounds like, even if they do indeed whistle; which is questionable.
Come on Grinder, nobody has ever seen a bigfoot whistle before; therefore, we don't know what a bigfoot whistle sounds like, even if they do indeed whistle; which is questionable.
This is a pretty broad statement since you would have to know the experiences of millions of humans. How do you know what our local Coquille Indians have heard and seen over the last 5000 years of life in the Coquille Valley. There are many reports of whistling along with other evidence that is unique to BF .............where there's smoke there's fire.
A short article on BF whistles:
http://www.cactusventures.com/webstuff5/do...oot_whistle.htm
BF sounds, but the whistle I heard is not at all like the one from this site:
http://www.oregonbigfoot.com/sounds.php
I reside near Portland.
From all of my own personal study of this subject, the most authentic sounds/chirps/whistles that have been produced by a supposed Bigfoot have been analyzed by numerous universities (Texas A&M and others) and there is no known animal that currently makes those sounds according the scientists.
With that said, I think one of the big mistakes that people make is to try and reproduce these sounds with our human vocal cords and lips…it just doesn’t work; because the sound experts says that we can’t make those sounds.
I don’t think that the Bigfoot would/does fall for such a poor imitation of his own calls. For example, in a crowd if your mother yelled for you, you’d recognize her voice. This is because we are pre-programmed to respond to our mother’s voice from birth, sort of like a sound imprint. This is the same way with all species of animals, you would recognize an imposter if someone called your name in a crowd and it was not your mother’s but an imitation. Your ear/brain is tuned to the nuances of your mothers distinct tone patterns.
I think that the new found Orangutan whistles could be extremely effective in sound calling a Bigfoot because of the following:
1. The Orangutan calls come form a large primate
2. The lips of the Orangutan appear similar to the lips of a Bigfoot (from the photo’s I have seen and from reading sighting reports), therefore logically should have similar pitches and tones.
3. Orangutan's and Gigantopithecus originate from the same evolutionary ladder...they both split from Sivapithecus ( a common ancestor) about 10-12 million years ago. This means they may be genitically similar therefore share the same vocal attributes.
It would be interesting to compare the Orangutan whistles with the Bigfoot whistles in a University lab by sound acoustic experts that specialize in animal calls and see the similarities.
From all of my own personal study of this subject, the most authentic sounds/chirps/whistles that have been produced by a supposed Bigfoot have been analyzed by numerous universities (Texas A&M and others) and there is no known animal that currently makes those sounds according the scientists.
With that said, I think one of the big mistakes that people make is to try and reproduce these sounds with our human vocal cords and lips…it just doesn’t work; because the sound experts says that we can’t make those sounds.
I don’t think that the Bigfoot would/does fall for such a poor imitation of his own calls. For example, in a crowd if your mother yelled for you, you’d recognize her voice. This is because we are pre-programmed to respond to our mother’s voice from birth, sort of like a sound imprint. This is the same way with all species of animals, you would recognize an imposter if someone called your name in a crowd and it was not your mother’s but an imitation. Your ear/brain is tuned to the nuances of your mothers distinct tone patterns.
I think that the new found Orangutan whistles could be extremely effective in sound calling a Bigfoot because of the following:
1. The Orangutan calls come form a large primate
2. The lips of the Orangutan appear similar to the lips of a Bigfoot (from the photo’s I have seen and from reading sighting reports), therefore logically should have similar pitches and tones.
3. Orangutan's and Gigantopithecus originate from the same evolutionary ladder...they both split from Sivapithecus ( a common ancestor) about 10-12 million years ago. This means they may be genitically similar therefore share the same vocal attributes.
It would be interesting to compare the Orangutan whistles with the Bigfoot whistles in a University lab by sound acoustic experts that specialize in animal calls and see the similarities.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZTFdr1-eAY
This whistle is what I heard, but it was streached out a little longer. This is it!
This whistle is what I heard, but it was streached out a little longer. This is it!
Using primate vocalizations for communications is an interesting area. Recently on NPR's Fresh Air, one of the programs hosts interviewed a couple of primate researchers whose area of study was primate vocalization and who recently had published a book called "Baboon Metaphysics", detailing their work. It's a very interesting interview and had a couple of examples that underscored the specificity and complexity of these calls and by inferrence might provide some insight as to how it is perceived by other primates.
Here's a link to their archived interview:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...toryId=97852832
Here's a link to their archived interview:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...toryId=97852832
goegerm, I think you're missing my point. What I'm saying is that unless you have a witness actually see a BF whistling, you can't be sure that a BF actually whistled.
For example, we have the same situation with supposed BF vocalizations that have been discredited by researchers on this very forum! They actually watched known animals make the sounds. They didn't just hear the sounds and attribute it to some animal, they saw the animals making the sounds. Look here:
"Thomas Steenburg and Gerry Matthews (GrandCherokee) were out on the Chehalis/Harrison River flats early this morning doing follow-up investigative work on possible sasquatch activity in the immediate area. At 9:30 a.m. precisely, while exploring along the edge of the bush-line on the flats, both were astounded to hear the by now familiar cries called the Chehalis Sounds emanating from a pair of coyotes."
"The Chehalis vocalization was made by a known animal.
I can also name at least three other alleged sasquatch vocalizations [ maybe more ] which have been the center of attention for [ Squatch ] audiophiles for the past 30 years And I now can feel very confident in saying that the sounds on these recordings...were also caused by known animals.
Klamath vocalization
Puyallup vocalization
Mt. St. Helen's vocalization
I am sure that Thomas Steenburg will have more to say when he comes online.
I want to thank Bushman who informed us that the vocalization was heard again yesterday at 8:00 a.m.
Myself and Thomas made a confirmation of the vocalization source today at 9:30 a.m in the same area. Both visually and audibly. Without the Bushman's efforts, these alleged sasquatch vocalizations might have continued to be misidentified for many more years!"
For example, we have the same situation with supposed BF vocalizations that have been discredited by researchers on this very forum! They actually watched known animals make the sounds. They didn't just hear the sounds and attribute it to some animal, they saw the animals making the sounds. Look here:
"Thomas Steenburg and Gerry Matthews (GrandCherokee) were out on the Chehalis/Harrison River flats early this morning doing follow-up investigative work on possible sasquatch activity in the immediate area. At 9:30 a.m. precisely, while exploring along the edge of the bush-line on the flats, both were astounded to hear the by now familiar cries called the Chehalis Sounds emanating from a pair of coyotes."
"The Chehalis vocalization was made by a known animal.
I can also name at least three other alleged sasquatch vocalizations [ maybe more ] which have been the center of attention for [ Squatch ] audiophiles for the past 30 years And I now can feel very confident in saying that the sounds on these recordings...were also caused by known animals.
Klamath vocalization
Puyallup vocalization
Mt. St. Helen's vocalization
I am sure that Thomas Steenburg will have more to say when he comes online.
I want to thank Bushman who informed us that the vocalization was heard again yesterday at 8:00 a.m.
Myself and Thomas made a confirmation of the vocalization source today at 9:30 a.m in the same area. Both visually and audibly. Without the Bushman's efforts, these alleged sasquatch vocalizations might have continued to be misidentified for many more years!"
It still doesn't disprove that bigfoot can whislte. Hence the proof of a Orang whistle means it is a good possiblity that Bigfoot does the same.
Bigfoot sounds have been analyized and deamend unknown to real scientist.
Bigfoot sounds have been analyized and deamend unknown to real scientist.
QUOTE(gigantor @ Dec 17 2008, 10:03 PM)
"The Chehalis vocalization was made by a known animal.
I can also name at least three other alleged sasquatch vocalizations [ maybe more ] which have been the center of attention for [ Squatch ] audiophiles for the past 30 years And I now can feel very confident in saying that the sounds on these recordings...were also caused by known animals.
Klamath vocalization
Puyallup vocalization
Mt. St. Helen's vocalization
I can also name at least three other alleged sasquatch vocalizations [ maybe more ] which have been the center of attention for [ Squatch ] audiophiles for the past 30 years And I now can feel very confident in saying that the sounds on these recordings...were also caused by known animals.
Klamath vocalization
Puyallup vocalization
Mt. St. Helen's vocalization
Many animals don't have the lung capacity to make an enormous calls. This fact reduces the possible canidates.
The Puyallup call is an example, but I don't know the reason for the call. The call doesn't seem to be faked. It could be an Elk, so we need an elk expert.
That's easy enough to do... just e-mail a copy of the call to The Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation...
Coincidently, they happen to have a few elk experts there...
Coincidently, they happen to have a few elk experts there...
QUOTE(RB @ Dec 20 2008, 09:47 AM)
That's easy enough to do... just e-mail a copy of the call to The Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation...
Coincidently, they happen to have a few elk experts there...
Coincidently, they happen to have a few elk experts there...
It would be interesting to hear all of the calls Elk, Cougar or Bears make. Even their rare calls seldom made that could be mistaken for BF vocals.
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