sosha
Oct 13 2008, 09:10 PM
I totally want one of these!
http://www.acecraftusa.com/Can you imagine how much ground you could cover? I wonder how loud it is....man that would be sweet!

edited to add pics
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moregon
Oct 13 2008, 09:34 PM
Ilikebluepez
Oct 14 2008, 11:17 AM
Just imagine you're skimming the tree tops and spot a little clearing in the woods.
You circle a little lower, causing a great big loudly irritating ruckus.
Suddendly you see a large brown arm reach up and snatch you right out of the air! Somebody's a little cranky to have been woken up so abruptly from his nappy time!
Fly high my friend, fly high.
sosha
Oct 15 2008, 11:40 AM
Okay how about the Williams X-jet....
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachmentSee it in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isQkyfCLXQ0Anyway....if they had this stuff way back then...why haven't they perfected it so we could all have one now?lol...of course the way some people drive....*shivers*...people would be smackin into each other and falling out of the sky...not good....but...dang I'd love to have one of these!
JayleeD
Oct 15 2008, 07:10 PM
QUOTE(moregon @ Oct 13 2008, 10:34 PM)

And just like a weedwhacker...it wouldn't start on the first dozen pulls. No way would I soar above the trees in something that you have to double choke to get it started.

Now, the Williams X-Jet, that thing is too cool! I'd smack a big pine tree but it would be a hoot until then!
moregon
Oct 15 2008, 07:36 PM
This would probably be your best bet... however controlling your direction and speed may be a problem. I'd also choose a different color ensemble for stealth purposes.
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Ilikebluepez
Oct 15 2008, 07:44 PM
QUOTE(sosha @ Oct 15 2008, 12:40 PM)

Okay how about the Williams X-jet....
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachmentSee it in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isQkyfCLXQ0Anyway....if they had this stuff way back then...why haven't they perfected it so we could all have one now?lol...of course the way some people drive....*shivers*...people would be smackin into each other and falling out of the sky...not good....but...dang I'd love to have one of these!
Ya, now your talking! I want one of those too!
I'd drive right, I promise....
No horsing around in one of those things....no air polo allowed...um, ya...I would never do that...
JC Racing
Nov 3 2008, 07:28 AM
since my dad is a pilot, We scan all over the state at about 15000 feet in his helicopter. when i see something i sky dive out. I have spotted what looks like big foot about 4 times including groups of them.
uffda320
Nov 4 2008, 07:05 PM
Why in the world do you fly so high in your helicopter? 15,000 feet in a helicopter seems excessive. You could get a better look at a lower altitude, I can't imagine you can spot anything at 15,000 feet. I'm thinking you're being a little fantastic with your story.
Sorry...I'm not buying it.
Ilikebluepez
Nov 5 2008, 01:27 PM
Maybe he needs the extra height to find the chute cord....
Just Kidding!
But I didn't realize it was common practice to jump out of helicopters. I'm no expert here, but it just seems odd.
Squatchfoot
Nov 10 2008, 02:03 AM
Well some do jump out of choppers,especially in the military. If you recall the videos of Vietnam(The Helicopter war some call it),the troops would sometimes bail out at very low altitude. As for jumping out and parachuting..I have no idea whether that happens or not. I assume its possible but rotor wash and other factors would seem to make it a bit risky. Just my two cents..two cents is about all I know on this subject..LOL.
911Guy
Nov 10 2008, 02:30 AM
JC please give us some more details.
longtabber PE
Nov 10 2008, 07:56 AM
Well, ( as one who has done it frequently but not looking for BF) flying a copter at 15k while doing ground recon is a bit high ( you would have to have some serious optics to see a BF sized object at 3 MILES)
It is done tho but mainly for fixed installations or large troop movements ( that altitude has nothing to do with area coverage- but it places the bird out of range of massed small arms fire and SAMs- which are a copters worst enemies)
As far as jumping from a copter- its done every day.
By the time your chute canopies ( be it static line or freefall) you are well away from rotor wash and the birds collective.
I also would like to hear a few more details
rockinkt
Nov 11 2008, 02:51 AM
I would like to hear how the FAA would look at this type of activity. From what I understand - you can't just decide to jump out of an aircraft without some sort of prior notification to ATC unless you are military or government sanctioned (wild fire smoke jumpers etc.).
edited to add - unless, of course, your aircraft is in trouble.
Prehistoric Fisherman
Nov 11 2008, 01:49 PM
JC appears to enjoy making joke posts. Several posts I've noticed by him seem to be of this variety (seeing BF driving a Humvee, etc.).
longtabber PE
Nov 12 2008, 08:08 AM
QUOTE(rockinkt @ Nov 11 2008, 03:51 AM)

I would like to hear how the FAA would look at this type of activity. From what I understand - you can't just decide to jump out of an aircraft without some sort of prior notification to ATC unless you are military or government sanctioned (wild fire smoke jumpers etc.).
edited to add - unless, of course, your aircraft is in trouble.
I asked a buddy of mine ( civilian jumpmaster) about this ( I've never done a civilian jump and never intend to) and heres what he told me.
He says the only FAA rules applying to parachuting are in regard to the chute standards, the plane ( radio/reporting accidents) and rigging. He says there is no "law' requiring anything beyond that but "most" jumpers/organizations follow the USPA guidelines ( which are not law) that require reporting to ATC.
I never would have believed that but he says theres literally nothing in the way of government regulation and he has never heard of any state law.
Apeman
Nov 12 2008, 11:11 AM
rockinkt
Nov 12 2008, 07:43 PM
QUOTE(longtabber PE @ Nov 12 2008, 06:08 AM)

I asked a buddy of mine ( civilian jumpmaster) about this ( I've never done a civilian jump and never intend to) and heres what he told me.
He says the only FAA rules applying to parachuting are in regard to the chute standards, the plane ( radio/reporting accidents) and rigging. He says there is no "law' requiring anything beyond that but "most" jumpers/organizations follow the USPA guidelines ( which are not law) that require reporting to ATC.
I never would have believed that but he says theres literally nothing in the way of government regulation and he has never heard of any state law.
Interesting - to say the least!
I think your friend is slightly wrong in that there are specific regulations regarding controlled airspace. These laws do not apply to military or authorized civilian organisations such as I mentioned.
My mistake was in applying FAA Section 105.13 to all airspace instead of just "controlled" airspace.
Since there are various levels of "controlled" airspace - I would think that there should be a little bit of thinking before one just jumped from any aircraft in any area.
http://www.parachuteshop.com/faa_part_105_...e_operation.dwt
RedRatSnake
Nov 12 2008, 08:21 PM
QUOTE(Apeman @ Nov 12 2008, 12:11 PM)

Hi
That is a great link Apeman

If you like remote control and whales check it out
Peace Tim
longtabber PE
Nov 13 2008, 05:54 AM
QUOTE(rockinkt @ Nov 12 2008, 08:43 PM)

Interesting - to say the least!
I think your friend is slightly wrong in that there are specific regulations regarding controlled airspace. These laws do not apply to military or authorized civilian organisations such as I mentioned.
I fired another email asking him to specify and he told me he didnt think about controlled airspace because they never jump there. He said that the "definition" of controlled air space varies by each ATC so before they jump- they check it out locally.
He did tell me this ( I thought this odd but I guess we learn something new every day) that a drop zone that is designated on a map is also a controlled air space or if you call in and report to an ATC where you intend to drop- they will designate that a controlled space during your jump window. ( or either tell you when other craft will be crossing so you can adjust your jump window)
vilnoori
Nov 13 2008, 12:23 PM
Wow, so cool. LT can you get him to give us more details on his sightings?
longtabber PE
Nov 13 2008, 03:26 PM
QUOTE(vilnoori @ Nov 13 2008, 01:23 PM)

Wow, so cool. LT can you get him to give us more details on his sightings?
Danny hasnt had any sightings- we were just discussing parachuting
Fullybird
Nov 13 2008, 03:56 PM
'Controlled Airspace' also refers to aircraft restricted from flying below a certain altitude. For example, an artillery impact area would have controlled airspace above the maximum height of trajectory of an artillery or mortar round, with a buffer in between. I beleive the same applies to drop zones.
rockinkt
Nov 17 2008, 05:16 AM
Thanks to Fully - I think I have just come up with a brilliant idea for another ESPN special:
"Extreme Parachuting" - where the contestants have to parachute onto a designated target while dodging high explosive artillary and mortar fire!
(Apologies to the 101st who I think actually invented the game back in WW2)
sosha
Nov 20 2008, 12:14 AM
Sean V
Dec 29 2008, 06:57 PM
QUOTE(sosha @ Oct 13 2008, 10:10 PM)

I wonder how loud it is....man that would be sweet!

Oh yeah, it would definately be loud. It's powered by
two stroke engines.It would still be sweet though. "Okay, you guys hike through the muskeg. You guys follow the river until you find the best place to cross. Me? I will be observing everything from above. Good Luck!"
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